BackPAN mirror owners: please delete Finance::FuturesQuote

2007-11-27 Thread David Landgren
Hello and apologies for the cross-posting. PLEASE TRIM FOLLOW-UPS TO PERL-QA ONLY. All other non-discussion queries regarding this matter may be directed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finance::FuturesQuote scrapes information from a web site that offers (I would imagine) futures quotes. The author

Re: BackPAN mirror owners: please delete Finance::FuturesQuote

2007-11-27 Thread Jonathan Rockway
On Tue, 2007-11-27 at 17:42 +0100, David Landgren wrote: All publicly accessible BackPAN mirrors must pull this distribution manually, given that rsync-without-delete won't do it for you. What legal precedent is there here? Violating the ToS is the responsibility of the user of the module,

Re: BackPAN mirror owners: please delete Finance::FuturesQuote

2007-11-27 Thread chromatic
On Tuesday 27 November 2007 08:53:52 Jonathan Rockway wrote: What legal precedent is there here? Violating the ToS is the responsibility of the user of the module, not people distributing the module. Would you also distribute a module which effectively performed a DoS against

Re: BackPAN mirror owners: please delete Finance::FuturesQuote

2007-11-27 Thread Jonathan Rockway
On Tue, 2007-11-27 at 09:25 -0800, chromatic wrote: On Tuesday 27 November 2007 08:53:52 Jonathan Rockway wrote: What legal precedent is there here? Violating the ToS is the responsibility of the user of the module, not people distributing the module. Would you also distribute a

Re: BackPAN mirror owners: please delete Finance::FuturesQuote

2007-11-27 Thread Andy Lester
On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 11:31:53AM -0600, Jonathan Rockway ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Would you also distribute a module which effectively performed a DoS against search.cpan.org and *.perl.org? Please delete Firefox from the Internet, since users can click reload repeatedly and DoS a

Re: BackPAN mirror owners: please delete Finance::FuturesQuote

2007-11-27 Thread Dominique Quatravaux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andy Lester a écrit : I think he means a legal DoS, where armies of bank-payrolled lawyers come in and CD the entire *.cpan.org and *.perl.org infrastructure. Then by all means, start transfering those TLDs over to a Swiss registrar, now! - --

Re: BackPAN mirror owners: please delete Finance::FuturesQuote

2007-11-27 Thread David Golden
On Nov 27, 2007 11:42 AM, David Landgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The module is currently not available on CPAN, but it still lurks on the BackPAN (which is where the site owner tracked it down). I don't know off-hand the exact list of who is currently mirroring, I think there are two or

Re: BackPAN mirror owners: please delete Finance::FuturesQuote

2007-11-27 Thread chromatic
On Tuesday 27 November 2007 09:45:59 Andy Lester wrote: I think he means a legal DoS, where armies of bank-payrolled lawyers come in and CD the entire *.cpan.org and *.perl.org infrastructure. If I provide a free public resource and you abuse it, I think I have a right to ask you to stop

Re: BackPAN mirror owners: please delete Finance::FuturesQuote

2007-11-27 Thread David Landgren
Jonathan Rockway wrote: On Tue, 2007-11-27 at 17:42 +0100, David Landgren wrote: Let's not kill the free software movement by deleting anything that anyone with a lawyer requests to be deleted. I don't think it's anything so serious. It's more like you played, you lost. The web site owners

Not a QA issue (was Re: BackPAN mirror owners: please delete Finance::FuturesQuote)

2007-11-27 Thread Michael G Schwern
As interesting / important as all this might be or might not be, it has nothing to do with quality assurance. Take it elsewhere. Perhaps Groklaw, they might actually have some legal knowledge. And please don't replace the argument with an argument about how this is somehow related to QA.

Re: BackPAN mirror owners: please delete Finance::FuturesQuote

2007-11-27 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* David Landgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-11-27 17:45]: PLEASE TRIM FOLLOW-UPS TO PERL-QA ONLY. How on Earth is this topical on perl-qa? I’m replying to perl-qa despite Michael’s request because that’s where the thread now is, but sensible this ain’t. The author of this module has received a

Re: BackPAN mirror owners: please delete Finance::FuturesQuote

2007-11-27 Thread David Golden
On Nov 27, 2007 12:45 PM, Andy Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think he means a legal DoS, where armies of bank-payrolled lawyers come in and CD the entire *.cpan.org and *.perl.org infrastructure. This is where I would hope that a small guerrilla force of TPF lawyers to jump in and issue the

RE: BackPAN mirror owners: please delete Finance::FuturesQuote

2007-11-27 Thread Jan Dubois
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Jim Schneider wrote: David Landgren wrote: Finance::FuturesQuote scrapes information from a web site that offers (I would imagine) futures quotes. The author of this module has received a cease-and-desist letter from the owner of the web site, since the module is in

Re: BackPAN mirror owners: please delete Finance::FuturesQuote

2007-11-27 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Jan Dubois [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-11-28 02:50]: This has come up before (e.g. the WWW::EuroTV removal request in 2003). I still have the same opinion I had back then: | I think this discussion is missing the point. It should not | be: What can we legally get away with?, but Do we have the

Re: BackPAN mirror owners: please delete Finance::FuturesQuote

2007-11-27 Thread David Landgren
Shawn Boyette ☠ wrote: On Nov 27, 2007 12:25 PM, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 27 November 2007 08:53:52 Jonathan Rockway wrote: What legal precedent is there here? Violating the ToS is the responsibility of the user of the module, not people distributing the module. Would