Luke Closs wrote:
I'm somewhat new to the Perl community, so I don't know much history
about PPM + perl, but I think PPM is actually a pretty good tool.
The history is that Activestate was originally a Windows-only product.
Windows users generally don't have compilers, so they needed a way
On 1/30/06, David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Luke Closs wrote:
PPM is only really useful on Windows. It makes sense for it to bundled
with the main Windows port of perl, but not to include it otherwise.
I don't know if I buy that. Im assuming that ppm is bundled with all
of the AS
Chris Dolan wrote:
writing fragile META.yml creation code. YAML.pm is not even at 1.00
yet, so an API change is allowed by convention, and lack of
Convention? On CPAN? Are you kidding? By that logic, many of the
commonly used tools on CPAN could change API and your answer would be
oh,
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:26:52 -0800, Luke Closs [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
This would allow non-perl people to install perl packages much easier,
without having to mess with the CPAN shell and running tests. It
would also make installing CPAN packages into hosted environments much
Graph::Easy installation failing here with YAML 0.50 (newer versions of
YAML seem to be uninstallable at the moment due to Class::Spiffy +
Spiffy + Test::Base install failures...
Any suggestions?
Adam K
Moin,
On Saturday 28 January 2006 11:08, Adam Kennedy wrote:
Graph::Easy installation failing here with YAML 0.50 (newer versions of
YAML seem to be uninstallable at the moment due to Class::Spiffy +
Spiffy + Test::Base install failures...
Just what I said about dependecies etc. My
On Sat, Jan 28, 2006 at 09:08:48PM +1100, Adam Kennedy wrote:
Graph::Easy installation failing here with YAML 0.50 (newer versions of
YAML seem to be uninstallable at the moment due to Class::Spiffy +
Spiffy + Test::Base install failures...
Any suggestions?
You're getting install failures
* Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-01-28 09:00]:
If a Perl module needs libfoo then it should be stated in the
metadata somewhere so that the binary packaging system can
resolve that generalised dependency into the appropriate action
for that environment.
++
How does Alien:: stack up here in
As I understand it, Alien packs the module for you, or otherwise does
what it takes. Having only done a quick basic reading of the Alien
docs, it seems that it's a brute force thing for when you REALLY want
the lib and you have only CPAN.pm with which to get it. (Although it
might shortcut in
Tels,
Please forgive me for being blunt, but I think it's your fault for
writing fragile META.yml creation code. YAML.pm is not even at 1.00
yet, so an API change is allowed by convention, and lack of backward
compatibility is to be expected. If you were to have wrapped your
whole
Moin,
On Friday 27 January 2006 17:42, Dominique Quatravaux wrote:
Tels wrote:
However, I am _really really_ starting to wonder whether we need a
Kwalitee rating based on *excessive usage of prerequisites*.
Doing work based on existing CPAN modules instead of reinventing the
wheel by
Moin,
On Friday 27 January 2006 18:48, Chris Dolan wrote:
On Jan 27, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Tels wrote:
Basically something like CPAN, but with much less network traffic
and much
less hassle for a user. Bonus points if it gives you stuff pre-
compiled
for windows (all those ppl w/o a
On Jan 27, 2006, at 12:01 PM, Tels wrote:
On Friday 27 January 2006 18:48, Chris Dolan wrote:
On Jan 27, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Tels wrote:
Basically something like CPAN, but with much less network traffic
and much
less hassle for a user. Bonus points if it gives you stuff pre-
compiled
for
On Jan 27, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Tyler MacDonald wrote:
Chris Dolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* for windows only
* only includes Foo-Bar, but not it's dependecies
It will auto-install dependencies just like CPAN, I believe. And,
yes, it's currently Windows-only. Didn't you offer bonus points
Chris Dolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* for windows only
* only includes Foo-Bar, but not it's dependecies
It will auto-install dependencies just like CPAN, I believe. And,
yes, it's currently Windows-only. Didn't you offer bonus points for
Windows??
Um, no it isn't!
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 10:30:47AM -0800, Tyler MacDonald wrote:
Chris Dolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* for windows only
* only includes Foo-Bar, but not it's dependecies
It will auto-install dependencies just like CPAN, I believe. And,
yes, it's currently Windows-only. Didn't you
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 10:37:01PM +0100, Tels wrote:
Moin,
On Friday 27 January 2006 22:26, Luke Closs wrote:
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 10:30:47AM -0800, Tyler MacDonald wrote:
Chris Dolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* for windows only
* only includes Foo-Bar, but not it's dependecies
Randy Kobes distributes Win32 PPMs for some of the
modules that ActiveState doesn't provide. It is not
entirely automated, so the latest code isn't always
available. But Randy is very helpful if there's
anything you want to see.
http://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/ppms/
-Jeff
I'm somewhat new to
Jeffrey Thalhammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Randy Kobes distributes Win32 PPMs for some of the
modules that ActiveState doesn't provide. It is not
entirely automated, so the latest code isn't always
available. But Randy is very helpful if there's
anything you want to see.
On Friday 27 January 2006 14:43, Tyler MacDonald wrote:
Part of the problem is that a lot of modules out there are fully
functional even when a few of their tests fail due to assumptions about the
environment they are being tested in. Another part is that the ActiveState
perl package
Moin,
On Friday 27 January 2006 23:55, chromatic wrote:
On Friday 27 January 2006 14:43, Tyler MacDonald wrote:
Part of the problem is that a lot of modules out there are fully
functional even when a few of their tests fail due to assumptions
about the environment they are being tested
Chris Dolan wrote:
On Jan 27, 2006, at 12:01 PM, Tels wrote:
On Friday 27 January 2006 18:48, Chris Dolan wrote:
On Jan 27, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Tels wrote:
Basically something like CPAN, but with much less network traffic
and much
less hassle for a user. Bonus points if it gives you stuff pre-
I think this would be rad:
- PPM becomes part of the perl core
- All CPAN packages are built to into PPDs automatically on common
platforms
- PPM is extended to allow installing into non-root locations
This would allow non-perl people to install perl packages much easier,
without having
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