Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-18 Thread David Wheeler
Burke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript Michael G Schwern wrote: But getting some sort of hosting could be great if nothing else than to get this discussion off of perl-qa and use.perl and onto a proper mailing list. http://groups-bet

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-18 Thread David Wheeler
On Apr 17, 2005, at 5:05 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote: http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/dynapi/ Perhaps, But then the mail lists are simply hosted by SourceForge. Ick. Sorry, the point was more "drag these guys into this" as they have obviously thought about the problem of includes and library paths.

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-17 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Sun, Apr 17, 2005 at 04:26:32PM -0700, David Wheeler wrote: > On Apr 17, 2005, at 3:12 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote: > >Perhaps the DynAPI folks might be interested. > >http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/dynapi/ > > Perhaps, But then the mail lists are simply hosted by SourceForge. Ick. Sorry, the p

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-17 Thread David Wheeler
On Apr 17, 2005, at 3:12 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote: Perhaps the DynAPI folks might be interested. http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/dynapi/ Perhaps, But then the mail lists are simply hosted by SourceForge. Ick. And then there's the whole Ajax thing which I'm not really up on enough to detect if ther

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-17 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Sun, Apr 17, 2005 at 05:23:56PM -0400, jesse wrote: > I'm betting there is no javascript community organization we can > leverage. Perhaps the DynAPI folks might be interested. http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/dynapi/ And then there's the whole Ajax thing which I'm not really up on enough to dete

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-17 Thread jesse
> Well, you should know that there are a now a number of people I know of > who are working on JSAN-y things in parallel. I've Cc'd them on this > message. Maybe we should set up a mail list somewhere an coordinate our > efforts? What would be the proper venue for that? I'm betting there is n

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-17 Thread David Wheeler
On Apr 16, 2005, at 2:53 PM, Adam Kennedy wrote: JSPANTS, you mean? I think we need a CJSPAN, first. Alias? Yes well... I'm getting there slowly. JavaScript::Librarian + Algorithm::Dependency + YAML ought to be enough to get some basics sorted out... Well, you should know that there are a now a nu

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-16 Thread Adam Kennedy
David Wheeler wrote: On Apr 7, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Christopher H. Laco wrote: OK, now whos gonna build JPANTS? :-) JSPANTS, you mean? I think we need a CJSPAN, first. Alias? Yes well... I'm getting there slowly. JavaScript::Librarian + Algorithm::Dependency + YAML ought to be enough to get some b

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-08 Thread David Wheeler
On Apr 8, 2005, at 10:28 AM, Michael G Schwern wrote: Nahh, I'll start slamming now. :) The eq_* salad was a mistake and I've been planning on deprecating them for a while now. No sense in parroting mistakes forward. By the way, I've just removed those from my svn repository, and changed eqSet

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-08 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 12:36:16PM -0400, Geoffrey Young wrote: > as someone familiar with T::M and not javascript, were I to try to use this > it's an additional barrier to call it "Test::More in JavaScript" but not > provide _the exact same functions_ as Test::More. now before everyone > starts

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-08 Thread David Wheeler
On Apr 8, 2005, at 9:36 AM, Geoffrey Young wrote: as someone familiar with T::M and not javascript, were I to try to use this it's an additional barrier to call it "Test::More in JavaScript" but not provide _the exact same functions_ as Test::More. now before everyone starts slamming this let me

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-08 Thread David Wheeler
On Apr 8, 2005, at 8:23 AM, Adrian Howard wrote: I did once hack JSUnit to output TAP - so you never know :-) You are a very sick man. :-) D

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-08 Thread David Wheeler
On Apr 7, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Ovid wrote: It's my understanding that the Ecmascript standard leaves garbage collection up to the implementation. I suspect this means we can't be sure exactly when an object is destroyed, though whether or not this has any bearing on David's problem is not clear to me

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-08 Thread Geoffrey Young
David Wheeler wrote: > On Apr 7, 2005, at 5:55 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote: > >> If you have isDeeply() there's little point to the eq* salad. > > > Hrm, fair enough. I'll comment them out, then... well, a few thoughts here... as someone familiar with T::M and not javascript, were I to try t

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-08 Thread Adrian Howard
On 7 Apr 2005, at 20:27, David Wheeler wrote: [snip] Besides, I'm sure that Adrian will soon take my code to port Test::Class to JavaScript, and then we can have both approaches! ;-) I did once hack JSUnit to output TAP - so you never know :-) Adrian

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-08 Thread Adrian Howard
On 7 Apr 2005, at 19:23, David Wheeler wrote: Greetings fellow Perlers, I'm pleased to announce the first alpha release of my port of TestSimple/More/Builder to JavaScript. You can download it from: http://www.justatheory.com/downloads/TestBuilder-0.01.tar.gz [snip] You rock! Excellent stuff. O

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-08 Thread Ovid
--- Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This > > is because there is no END block to grab on to in JavaScript. > > Could object destruction be used somehow? It's my understanding that the Ecmascript standard leaves garbage collection up to the implementation. I suspect this means

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-07 Thread David Wheeler
On Apr 7, 2005, at 5:55 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote: If you have isDeeply() there's little point to the eq* salad. Hrm, fair enough. I'll comment them out, then... Cheers, David

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-07 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 04:17:03PM -0700, David Wheeler wrote: > Well, right now, isDeeply() should do the right thing. I could just > comment out the eqArray() and eqAssoc() functions, or make them tests, > too. That'd be pretty easy to do, actually. If you have isDeeply() there's little point

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-07 Thread David Wheeler
On Apr 7, 2005, at 1:40 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote: Zee goggles, zey do nothing!!! I thought I eliminated the radiation... Not so different, that's what I would have done were it not for the fact that it alters caller(). If Javascript has no such problems then do it, but I suspect it does. I ha

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-07 Thread David Wheeler
On Apr 7, 2005, at 12:46 PM, Ovid wrote: Great work! Thanks. Output them to a Results object which, by default, sends the output to document.write() but allows the user to redirect the output. For example, it might be nice to have test results pop up in a separate window while the main page loads.

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-07 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 11:23:59AM -0700, David Wheeler wrote: > Greetings fellow Perlers, > > I'm pleased to announce the first alpha release of my port of > TestSimple/More/Builder to JavaScript. You can download it from: > > http://www.justatheory.com/downloads/TestBuilder-0.01.tar.gz Zee

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-07 Thread Ovid
David, Great work! > * I have made no decisions as to where to output test results, > diagnostics, etc. Currently, they're simply output to > document.write(). Output them to a Results object which, by default, sends the output to document.write() but allows the user to redirect the output.

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-07 Thread David Wheeler
On Apr 7, 2005, at 12:19 PM, Fergal Daly wrote: Were you aware of JsUnit? http://www.edwardh.com/jsunit/ Yes, it's in the "See Also" section of my docs. I prefer the Test::More style of testing most of the time. I count myself lucky I've never had to use a testing framework for javascript! I guess

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-07 Thread Fergal Daly
Were you aware of JsUnit? http://www.edwardh.com/jsunit/ I prefer the Test::More style of testing most of the time. I count myself lucky I've never had to use a testing framework for javascript! F On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 11:23:59AM -0700, David Wheeler wrote: > Greetings fellow Perlers, > > I'

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-07 Thread David Wheeler
On Apr 7, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Christopher H. Laco wrote: OK, now whos gonna build JPANTS? :-) JSPANTS, you mean? I think we need a CJSPAN, first. Alias? Cheers, David

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-07 Thread Christopher H. Laco
David Wheeler wrote: Greetings fellow Perlers, I'm pleased to announce the first alpha release of my port of TestSimple/More/Builder to JavaScript. You can download it from: http://www.justatheory.com/downloads/TestBuilder-0.01.tar.gz Very cool. Very sick. :-) OK, now whos gonna build JPANTS?

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-07 Thread David Wheeler
On Apr 7, 2005, at 11:28 AM, Andy Lester wrote: You are a crazy man. Best feedback I ever had. Brilliant! D

Re: TestSimple/More/Builder in JavaScript

2005-04-07 Thread Andy Lester
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 11:23:59AM -0700, David Wheeler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I'm pleased to announce the first alpha release of my port of > TestSimple/More/Builder to JavaScript. You can download it from: You are a crazy man. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.pet