Re: TAP Namespace Nonproliferation Treaty

2006-07-10 Thread Nik Clayton
Ovid wrote: - Original Message From: Nik Clayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ovid wrote: I'm perfectly comfortable with this idea, but what I'm trying to figure > > out then, is the namespace for my parser. It's a TAP parser, after all. > > Any suggestions? I see that Adam has suggeste

TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread Michael G Schwern
The PITA/TestBuilder2 BoF at YAPC::NA (which spent most of its time talking about TAP) sketched out a syntax for parsable TAP diagnostics. not ok 2 - omg t3h sooper test!!1! file:foo.t line:45 description: omg t3h sooper test!!1! got: this expected:that r

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread Ovid
- Original Message From: Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The PITA/TestBuilder2 BoF at YAPC::NA (which spent most of its time > talking about TAP) sketched out a syntax for parsable TAP diagnostics. > > not ok 2 - omg t3h sooper test!!1! > file:foo.t > line:45

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread Ian Langworth
These diagnostic keywords seem to blend too much into the rest of TAP. Consider: not ok 2 - omg t3h sooper test!!1! ! file:foo.t ! line:45 ! description: omg t3h sooper test!!1! ! got: this ! expected:that ! raw-test:is( "this", "that", "omg t3h sooper test!

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread Pete Krawczyk
Subject: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal From: Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:19:03 -0700 }The PITA/TestBuilder2 BoF at YAPC::NA (which spent most of its time }talking about TAP) sketched out a syntax for parsable TAP diagnostics. } } not ok 2 - omg t3h sooper tes

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread Michael G Schwern
On 7/10/06, Ian Langworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: These diagnostic keywords seem to blend too much into the rest of TAP. Look at it in a fixed-with font, if you're not already, and it might stand out better. Also consider that with the next gen TAP parsers, "enhanced" TAP displays should be

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread Michael G Schwern
On 7/10/06, Pete Krawczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would be concerned about "got" or "expected" including embedded newlines, such as: is($mech->content,$expected_page,"Web page content matches what's expected"); even with a delimiter such as Ian suggested. How would this handle that? Y

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread chromatic
On Monday 10 July 2006 10:19, Michael G Schwern wrote: >got: this >expected:that "got" still sucks. Is there any chance to change it to "received"? -- c

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread Ovid
- Original Message From: chromatic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Monday 10 July 2006 10:19, Michael G Schwern wrote: > > >got: this > >expected:that > > "got" still sucks. Is there any chance to change it to "received"? I like "pitched" and "caught". ... silence ...

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread David Wheeler
On Jul 10, 2006, at 11:34, chromatic wrote: "got" still sucks. Is there any chance to change it to "received"? It's not a gift package delivered by FedEx. What sucks about "got"? Best, David

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread Jonathan T. Rockway
not ok 2 - omg t3h sooper test!!1! --- TAP diagnostics file:foo.t Why aren't we commenting the YAML block so that it's compatible with current TAP parsers? I'm thinking something like this: not ok 2 - ensure that foo is equal to bar # --- !!tap/diagnostics # file: foo.t # line: 4

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread chromatic
On Monday 10 July 2006 11:41, David Wheeler wrote: > It's not a gift package delivered by FedEx. What sucks about "got"? It's the grammatical equivalent of tucking your shirt tail into your underwear before trying to get a date at your family reunion. -- c

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread David Wheeler
On Jul 10, 2006, at 11:59, chromatic wrote: It's the grammatical equivalent of tucking your shirt tail into your underwear before trying to get a date at your family reunion. That's the best place to *get* a date! D

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread Jonathan T. Rockway
I agree that "got" is generally a good word to avoid in formal writing, but in a testing protocol I think that it's an acceptable abbreviation for "the actual result". Especially since "received" doesn't quite convey the right meaning here. Maybe "expected data" and "actual data" (or "expecte

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread Andy Lester
On Jul 10, 2006, at 1:38 PM, Ovid wrote: got: this expected:that "got" still sucks. Is there any chance to change it to "received"? "Expected" and "actual" -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread Andy Lester
On Jul 10, 2006, at 2:04 PM, David Wheeler wrote: It's the grammatical equivalent of tucking your shirt tail into your underwear before trying to get a date at your family reunion. That's the best place to *get* a date! Actually, weddings are. There's always someone(s) also w/o a date

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread Ian Langworth
prove --secret-ovid-mode ... On 7/10/06, Ovid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Original Message From: chromatic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Monday 10 July 2006 10:19, Michael G Schwern wrote: > > >got: this > >expected:that > > "got" still sucks. Is there any chance to c

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread Ian Langworth
YAML documents [can] end with a "...". I like Jonathan's suggestion of making the YAML comments, but my gut feels funny about that. If the lines are preceeded with hashes, then it's not "true" YAML; it has to be stripped of the leading characters. Also, I'd rather have a TAP directive to state, "

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Ovid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-10 20:40]: > From: chromatic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Monday 10 July 2006 10:19, Michael G Schwern wrote: > > > > >got: this > > >expected:that > > > > "got" still sucks. Is there any chance to change it to "received"? > > I like "pitched"

new! parrot tap parser

2006-07-10 Thread jerry gay
at the chicago hackathon, i decided to create a simple tap grammar using perl 6 regexes. you can find the example grammar at: http://svn.perl.org/parrot/trunk/examples/pge/grammars/TAP.pg that spawned interest from chris dolan on creating a parser using parrot's parser grammar engine (pge.) to

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread demerphq
On 7/10/06, A. Pagaltzis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * Ovid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-10 20:40]: > From: chromatic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Monday 10 July 2006 10:19, Michael G Schwern wrote: > > > > >got: this > > >expected:that > > > > "got" still sucks. Is there any ch

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 11:59:27AM -0700, chromatic wrote: > On Monday 10 July 2006 11:41, David Wheeler wrote: > > > It's not a gift package delivered by FedEx. What sucks about "got"? > > It's the grammatical equivalent of tucking your shirt tail into your > underwear before trying to get a da

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread demerphq
On 7/10/06, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 11:59:27AM -0700, chromatic wrote: > On Monday 10 July 2006 11:41, David Wheeler wrote: > > > It's not a gift package delivered by FedEx. What sucks about "got"? > > It's the grammatical equivalent of tucking your shirt

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread chromatic
On Monday 10 July 2006 15:28, demerphq wrote: > On 7/10/06, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Whilst I would also like to see something nicer that "got", I'm actually > > more concerned about the ordering. I always expect to see "expected" > > first, followed by "got" or "received" or

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread demerphq
On 7/11/06, chromatic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Monday 10 July 2006 15:28, demerphq wrote: > On 7/10/06, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Whilst I would also like to see something nicer that "got", I'm actually > > more concerned about the ordering. I always expect to see "expec

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread Joe McMahon
Want: This Have: That Put me down for this one too. Simpler for non-English speakers as well.

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread Randy W. Sims
chromatic wrote: On Monday 10 July 2006 10:19, Michael G Schwern wrote: got: this expected:that "got" still sucks. Is there any chance to change it to "received"? returned?

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Randy W. Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-11 01:40]: > chromatic wrote: > >On Monday 10 July 2006 10:19, Michael G Schwern wrote: > > > >> got: this > >> expected:that > > > >"got" still sucks. Is there any chance to change it to "received"? > > returned? Err, it’s what was pa

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

2006-07-10 Thread Randy W. Sims
Michael G Schwern wrote: The PITA/TestBuilder2 BoF at YAPC::NA (which spent most of its time talking about TAP) sketched out a syntax for parsable TAP diagnostics. not ok 2 - omg t3h sooper test!!1! file:foo.t line:45 description: omg t3h sooper test!!1! got: th

Re: Anyone experiencing problems with rt.cpan.org?

2006-07-10 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen
Ovid wrote: In the last day or so, every time I go to rt.cpan.org, it seems to nearly finish loading a page and then just stalls. My problem was that I couldn't even log in yesterday. I eventually filed a bug report with perlbug-admin at perl and Robert had to diddle the database to get