Re: Scrutinizing CPAN distributions (was Testing for valid path names...)

2003-08-18 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 11:25:14PM +1000, Andrew Savige wrote: > It doesn't have to eval the whole of CPAN to be useful. > I see the mythical Module::Scrutinize as perhaps a little orthogonal > to Module::CPANTS, as something that may help individual CPAN authors > produce a higher quality pr

Re: Scrutinizing CPAN distributions (was Testing for valid path names...)

2003-08-20 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 04:00:44PM +0100, Tony Bowden wrote: > I'd certainly like to see something like this worked on. We do a lot of > this stuff automagically as part of our RCS anyway - people can't check > in code that doesn't pass certain guidelines (all public methods > documented etc.

Re: Phalanx has started, and I need perl-qa's help

2003-08-22 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 10:48:11PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > The Phalanx project has started its rampup to an official > announcement. Phalanx is going to beef up the tests, coverage and > docs on Perl and 100 heavily-used modules from CPAN. Have you got an plans on combining Phalanx and

Phalanx / CPANTS / Kwalitee

2003-10-13 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! CPANTS and Phalanx both care about Kwalitee. So I thought it might be a good idea to come up with one more or less complete list of Kwalitee-hints that both projects can use. A lot of the hints listed at http://qa.perl.org/phalanx/kwalitee.html are rather vague, which is OK for Phalanx, as it

Re: Phalanx / CPANTS / Kwalitee

2003-10-15 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 02:57:34AM -0700, Michael G Schwern wrote: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 10:28:29AM +0200, Thomas Klausner wrote: > > * contains files: > > * Makefile.PL or Build.PL or configure > > configure? there are currently 4 dists on CPAN that only inclu

Re: Phalanx / CPANTS / Kwalitee

2003-10-15 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 07:46:02PM +0200, Tels wrote: > > * POD/Code ratio (what would be a good measurement?) > > No. Some _very_ complex code takes little documentation like: Agreed. > Probably something like: > > *.pm file has more than 1000 lines of code => bad > > :-) CPANTS

Re: Phalanx / CPANTS / Kwalitee

2003-10-15 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 05:53:15PM -, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: > > * POD/Code ratio (what would be a good measurement?) > > use Pod::Coverage ? As far as I know, Pod::Coverage compiles the module, which makes it not suitable for CPANTS. OTOH, it might be an interesting idea to allow

Re: Phalanx / CPANTS / Kwalitee

2003-10-15 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 03:24:22PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: > Thomas Klausner sent the following bits through the ether: > > > OTOH, it might be an interesting idea to allow CPANTS to compile code (and > > thus use stuff like Devel::Cover) if not testing the whole of CPAN

Re: Phalanx / CPANTS / Kwalitee

2003-10-17 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 10:09:04PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: > Something I'd be curious about: > Modules with lower case names which aren't pragmas. > > (although how you determine this is hard) Well, here's a list of lowercase dist on CPAN (238 dists). Quite a lot of those are in fact

Re: Phalanx / CPANTS / Kwalitee

2003-10-17 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 09:42:21PM -, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: > Thomas Klausner wrote in perl.qa : > > > > Well, here's a list of lowercase dist on CPAN (238 dists). Quite a lot of > > those are in fact real distributions (eg. perl, parrot). In fact I

Re: RFC: CPAN QA Project

2003-12-03 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 01:24:40PM -0500, Adam Foxson wrote: > I suggested that it might be a sane idea to consider starting a project who's > mission would be to take over the maintenance of distributions that, for lack > of criteria with greater specificity: > > a) are popular, well-used

[ANNOUNCE] Module-CPANTS-Generator-0.010

2003-12-05 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! Finally, here's my first release of Module::CPANTS::Generator, a framework to test all distributions on CPAN for 'kwalitee'. It should be easier to use and run, it should be easer to add new metrics and different ways to report results. On the downside, it currently includes less metrics than

Aborting testsuits

2004-02-23 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I've got a soon-to-be-large testsuite (based on Test::More) that's testing (among other things) a DB. The tests are in various different small files. If there is a problem with the DB, I want the whole testsuite to stop, instead of running a lot of sure-to-fail tests. Is there a way to abort

Re: Aborting testsuits

2004-02-23 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 05:01:54PM +, Adrian Howard wrote: > > On Monday, February 23, 2004, at 02:40 PM, Thomas Klausner wrote: > [snip] > >Is there a way to abort a whole testsuite? > [snip] > > Yup. Take a look at BAILOUT in Test::Builder. Doing: >

Re: Looking for module dependency information

2004-07-12 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Jul 11, 2004 at 09:14:28AM +0100, Tony Bowden wrote: > For a slightly easier approach, Module::CPANTS has a > 'requires_recursive' method which lists all the dependencies, and all > their dependencies, etc. Well it had this information, but currently it hasn't. But it will have it ag

CPANTS (was Re: Script to find Module Dependency Test Results...)

2004-07-22 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 12:12:39AM -0400, Robert Rothenberg wrote: > I have a prototype Perl script that will determine the dependencies of a > given CPAN distribution, and then check CPAN Testers for any failure > reports of that distro or dependent distros for a given platform. Sounds a l

CPANTS preview

2004-07-22 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I ran CPANTS today, you can view results here: http://cpants.dev.zsi.at/ ( or http://test1.dev.zsi.at if DNS isn't updated..) in /metrics there is a yaml-file for each dist cpants.db (or cpants.db.gz) is a SQLite DB file Oh, there might be a bug, because 100 dists didn't get any kwalite

Re: CPANTS preview

2004-07-22 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 05:25:38PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: > > Max Kwalitee is 10, which is reached by 99 dists. > > Will it go up to eleven soon? :-) as I'm planning to go on vacation next week, probably not... > > is_prereq (is listed as PREREQ by at least 3 other dists) > >

Re: CPANTS preview

2004-07-24 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 03:29:10AM +0100, Tim Bunce wrote: > The DBI gets 9. The one failure is permissions_ok: > > > permissions_ok (i.e. all files are read/writable by extracting user) > > Why is that a kwalitee issue? I don't think it warrants impacting the kwalitee. First: Currently

Re: CPANTS preview

2004-07-24 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 04:56:40AM +0200, Paul Johnson wrote: > At the moment the focus seems very much on packaging. That's fine, but > it does mean that "correctly" packaged junk looks pretty good. True, but most junk /is/ packaged badly. At its much easier to check for bad packages th

Re: CPANTS preview

2004-07-24 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 08:41:58AM +0200, James Mastros wrote: > - Having POD > - Not having the POD that h2xs puts in I wonder how many dists are authored by R.U. Thor :-) > - Having a README thats allready covered. > BTW, I tend to think that modules that require lots of other things

Re: CPANTS preview - coverage in CPAN testers reports

2004-07-24 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 07:46:30PM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote: > On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, Thomas Klausner wrote: > > > > - Test coverage. > > > > Impossibly, because CPANTS does not run code. > > But it could fetch it from some other place that does it, r

new CPANTS version & data

2004-08-22 Thread Thomas Klausner
get the SQLite file here: http://cpants.dev.zsi.at - Forwarded message from PAUSE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 22:50:30 +0200 Subject: CPAN Upload: D/DO/DOMM/Module-CPANTS-Generator-0.21.tar.gz To: Thomas Klausner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: PAUSE <[EMAIL PR

Fwd: CPAN Upload: D/DO/DOMM/Module-CPANTS-Generator-0.22.tar.gz

2004-09-07 Thread Thomas Klausner
21:47:39 +0200 Subject: CPAN Upload: D/DO/DOMM/Module-CPANTS-Generator-0.22.tar.gz To: Thomas Klausner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: PAUSE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The URL http://domm.zsi.at/download/Module-CPANTS-Generator-0.22.tar.gz has entered CPAN as file: $CPAN/authors/id/D/DO/D

Re: Phalanx update please!

2004-12-27 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 12:33:36AM +0100, S?bastien Aperghis-Tramoni wrote: > Oops! I didn't include the list on my first reply. > But on the other hand I have completed the analysis. So here is the > final list: > http://rafb.net/paste/results/p4hveb43.html I haven't got any time in the

Re: Kwalitee and has_test_*

2005-04-01 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 11:40:45AM +0100, Tony Bowden wrote: > There are now two kwalitee tests for 'has_test_pod' and > 'has_test_pod_coverage'. These check that there are test scripts for > POD correctness and POD coverage. Actually they check if Test::Pod and Test::Pod::Coverage are used

Re: Kwalitee and has_test_*

2005-04-01 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 10:59:04AM -0800, chromatic wrote: > Why, then, is suggesting that people ship tests for POD errors and > coverage a good idea? I'm not 100% sure if it's a good idea, but it's an idea. But then, if I write some test (eg to check pod coverage), why should I not ship

Re: Kwalitee and has_test_*

2005-04-04 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 10:32:14AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > Thomas Klausner wrote: > > >I cannot check POD coverage because Pod::Coverage executes the code. > > No it doesn't. Yes, it does. Pod::Coverage uses Devel::Symdump to get a list of all subs. > Th

Re: Kwalitee and has_test_*

2005-04-07 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 01:17:40PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote: > >Adding a kwalitee check for a test that runs Devel::Cover by default > >might on the surface appear to meet this goal, but I hope people > >recognize it as a bad idea. > > > >Why, then, is suggesting that people ship tests for PO

Re: Why a scoreboard?

2005-04-07 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 01:29:40PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote: I did most of what you asked for on thursday, but in a hurry, so it might be buggy.. > Where's the per-module page on CPANTS that lists these simple check/fail? http://cpants.dev.zsi.at/metrics/ http://cpants.dev.zsi.at/metrics/A

Re: Self-testing kwalitee

2005-07-11 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Jul 10, 2005 at 09:47:43AM -0700, chromatic wrote: > I have an unreleased module that runs the kwalitee tests and reports the > results. It works somewhat like Test::Pod and Test::Pod::Coverage. > > I haven't tested it with the latest release of M::C::G; domm said there > might be s

Re: Adding more kwalitee tests

2005-09-05 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 03:43:02PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote: > I know the whole kwalitee thing sort of stalled out at 17 tests, but > what would be involved in adding some more? There's obviously been > enough interest from people trying to boost their You might be aware that I did a talk

Re: Why are we adding more kwalitee tests?

2005-09-06 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 05:31:37AM +1000, Andrew Savige wrote: > flame wars. Best, at least for now, is to simply publish some > kwalitee metrics as an optional aid to enthusiastic CPAN authors. > If they prove good and useful, they will naturally become better known. Some of my recent thoug

Re: Why are we adding more kwalitee tests?

2005-09-07 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 03:13:31PM +0300, G?bor Szab? wrote: > On 9/7/05, David Golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > a) all tests are relevant > > b) all tests matter equally (are equally weighted) > > c) higher score means higher quality > > > > The scores are available in the database

Re: New kwalitee test, has_changes

2005-09-15 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 11:52:00AM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote: > Rather than do any additional exploding, I'd like to propose the > additional kwalitee test "has_changes". I've noticed that a percentage > (5-10%) of dists don't have a changes file, so it can be hard to know > whether it's wo

Re: kwalitee: drop Acme?

2005-09-15 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 05:53:17PM +0200, Tels wrote: > Shhh, dont tell anybody about my plan to hack the cpants webserver and > silently raising my K rating to "+inf" :) I've heard that. /me changes root passwd from 'toor' to '3l1+3' :-) -- #!/usr/bin/perl

Re: New kwalitee test, has_changes

2005-09-16 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 09:23:10AM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote: > Yeah, something like that. "Changes, for a suitably flexible value of > Changes" I implemented this in CPANTS. It will be in the next release (tomorrow), results should be available on Sunday morning. -- #!/usr/bin/perl

CPANTS new

2005-09-18 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! Data using the new metric 'has_changelog' is now available from http://cpants.perl.org Thanks again to Adam Kennedy, H.Merijn Brand and Smylers for various suggestions/help with 'has_changelog'. I've also added suggestions to improve ones kwalitee. For each metric I wrote up a short 'remedy'

Re: Plugging CPANTS

2005-09-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 08:18:17PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > > For all the activity going on with CPANTS, we have nothing on > qa.perl.org that refers to it. > > Can someone please write up a paragraph and a link that I can put up > on qa.perl.org's front page? I'll wirte up something

Re: CPANTS new

2005-09-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 11:48:02AM +0200, David Landgren wrote: > Seriously though, I have a module whose test suite includes Test::Pod > and Test::Pod::Coverage, except that I use the following construct: > > SKIP: { > skip( 'Test::Pod not installed on this system', 1 ) > unles

Re: CPANTS new

2005-09-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 12:24:26PM +0200, Tels wrote: > > The cpants analysis fails to recognise this as valid. What is it > > looking for and/or could it be taught to look for this? I thought that > > it was only looking for a string eval of "use Test::Pod". > > I would like to know the sam

Re: CPANTS new

2005-09-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 09:30:03PM +0200, David Landgren wrote: > Yeah, but I'm loathe to dedicate two separate test files merely to score > two points of Kwalitee. As it is, I'd just much rather bundle both tests > in a 00_basic.t file along with all the other standard no-brainer tests. I

Re: Plugging CPANTS

2005-09-20 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 08:18:17PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > Can someone please write up a paragraph and a link that I can put up > on qa.perl.org's front page? Took me a bit longer than planned, but renovating our new appartment sucks up a lot of time... Anyway, I rewrote some of the p

Re: New kwalitee test, has_changes

2005-09-21 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 11:58:36AM +0200, David Landgren wrote: > To me, this is a mark of Quality. It would be good to have it as a > Kwalitee metric, but I see no easy way. The simplest way I can see would > be to have a META.yml key that contains a URI to the HTML D::C report. I > would

Re: New kwalitee test, has_changes

2005-09-23 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 12:54:42PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote: > Collecting any sort of coverage data is a complete bitch. Let me just > say right now that doing it across _all_ of CPAN is flat out impossible. > > It's impossible. I completly agree. Now, if somebody sets up a system to col

Re: Apologies for my last post.

2005-09-28 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 12:41:31PM +0100, Gavin Henry wrote: > I have just re-read the summary of this list; > > "A list for discussing and planning CPANTS, the quality assurance effort > for CPAN modules." > > and realised this is the wrong list for my last post. No it's not. The summary

Re: Apologies for my last post.

2005-09-28 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 02:07:13PM +0200, David Landgren wrote: > >>I have just re-read the summary of this list; > >> > >>"A list for discussing and planning CPANTS, the quality assurance effort > >>for CPAN modules." > >> > >>and realised this is the wrong list for my last post. > > > > > >

Re: Test::Kwalitee - Where is it hosted?

2005-10-04 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 04:15:45PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: > >>Dear List, > >> > >>In "Perl Testing - A Developers Notebook" it has a section on > >>Test::Kwalitee. > .. > Actually the book strongly suggests that it's a real module which runs > the Kwalitee checks on your code > .. > That

Re: Proposed Kwalitee tests: has_license and/or has_meta_yml_license

2005-10-31 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 08:34:09AM -0600, Chris Dolan wrote: > To encourage authors to correct this oversight, I propose a new pair > of Kwalitee tests. Both would be nice, but if either of them were > implemented, I'd be thrilled. I'd prefer that someone else implement > the test (l

Fwd: CPAN Upload: D/DO/DOMM/Module-CPANTS-Analyse-0.5.tar.gz

2006-01-26 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I finally found some tuits to work on CPANTS again. As the previous implementation had some drawbacks, I started from scratch, and from another direction. I just uploaded Module::CPANTS::Analyse to CPAN. MCA contains most of the previous Kwalitee indicators and some code to check if one distr

Re: Kwalitee in your dependencies (was CPAN Upload: etc etc)

2006-02-01 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 10:36:47AM -0800, Tyler MacDonald wrote: > OK, speaking of "Kwalitee", I saw cpants for the first time today. > And saw that it claims to update every sunday, but there hasn't been an > update since december 5th. On the one hand I'm having problems with the serve

Re: Test::Kwalitee 0.10

2006-02-15 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 08:02:27AM +0100, Andreas J. Koenig wrote: > I've just opened a ticket on RT about the issue. A new version is on it's way to CPAN. -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.zsi.at for(ref bless{},just'another'perl'hacker){s-:+-$"-g&&print$_.$/}

Re: Proposed kwalitee metric: installer_not_executable

2006-03-20 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 06:12:37PM +1100, Adam Kennedy wrote: > I'd like to propose a Kwalitee test installed_not_executable be added > for which you get the Kwalitee point if and only if: > > 1) Both Makefile.PL and Build.PL (if they exist) are not executable > 2) Both Makefile.PL and Bui

Re: W3C validator

2006-05-09 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 09:01:19PM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote: > I checked it again, one can download the source code of their service > from here http://validator.w3.org/source/ > and it is even packaged in some of the linux distros. > > (It is of course slightly outdated on Debian) > > Someo

Re: CPANTS is not a game.

2006-05-23 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I missed most of this discussion due to work and a very important shopping trip to IKEA (well, maybe not that important, but I'll let you argue this out with my girlfriend...) I'm also a bit exhausted now, so here are just some semi-random comments on this thread: - I think the biggest probl

Re: CPANTS is not a game.

2006-05-26 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 09:51:06PM +0200, Philippe "BooK" Bruhat wrote: > Le mardi 23 mai 2006 ? 21:56, Thomas Klausner ?crivait: > > > > And no, I won't take the fun out of CPANTS. > > Then why did you filter out the Acme modules from the prereq li

Re: CPANTS is not a game.

2006-05-29 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 09:51:06PM +0200, Philippe "BooK" Bruhat wrote: > Le mardi 23 mai 2006 ? 21:56, Thomas Klausner ?crivait: > > > > And no, I won't take the fun out of CPANTS. > > Then why did you filter out the Acme modules from the prereq li

Re: CPANTS is not a game.

2006-05-29 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 11:35:14PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote: > What the hell is the "run" thing in the latest run... is the run just > half-way through or something? that was a bug in the templates. resolved now. (FYI: 'run' stores when the data was analysed (using what version of cpants

Re: Kwalitee metric: Broken Installer

2006-07-18 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 12:27:30PM +0200, Steffen Mueller wrote: > we had a discussion about distributions with broken versions of > Module::Install. Using Module::CPANTS::Kwalitee::* as models I wrote a > simple plugin that calculates a Kwalitee metric "uses_broken_installer". Cool! May

Re: Kwalitee metric: Broken Installer

2006-07-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 12:27:30PM +0200, Steffen Mueller wrote: > domm: What do you think? Is this a good metric? If so, would you like to > include the plugin in the distribution or do you want me to upload a > separate distribution? I've added your code to CPANTS (with some minor modif

some CPANTS news

2006-07-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I've found some tuits to spend on CPANTS, so I changed the whole author rating thing (aka the CPANTS game). I've split the metrics into core metircs and optional ones. At the moment, the only optional metric is 'is_prereq'. I've also changed the kwalitee rating from absolut to relative (i.e.

Re: some CPANTS news

2006-07-20 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 12:17:02AM +0200, Thomas Klausner wrote: > Please note the for the next few hours cpants.perl.org will show > slightly strange results, as a big reindexing is currently happending. It's finished by now. Here's a list of dists failing the new Module

Re: Kwalitee metric: Community support channels

2006-07-20 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 01:56:36PM +0200, Salve J Nilsen wrote: > Is there a (public) authoritative META.yml spec describing required, > recommended and supported fields? http://module-build.sourceforge.net/META-spec.html -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.zsi

Re: Dependency trees

2006-07-21 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 10:24:49PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > Is there anything out there that will generate a tree of > dependencies, probably based on META.yml? AFAIK there are several people working on stuff like that (Graph::Dependency, Module::Dependency, CPAN::Dependency, maybe more)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: CPANTS Hackathon at YAPC::Europe 2006]

2006-08-29 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! So I was stupid enough to offer an CPANTS hackathon at YAPC::Europe 2006... If you're interested, join us (or only me...) on 31st Aug from 14:00 to 17:30 in the Shadowcat Room. I've put a few infos up in the wiki: http://wiki.birmingham2006.com/WikiPlan/wiki.pl?CpantsHackathon -- #!/usr

post-YAPC::Europe CPANTS news

2006-09-06 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! During YAPC::Europe in Birmingham I did a (rather short and un-hackish) hackathon. Slides are available here: http://domm.plix.at/talks/2006_birmingham_cpants/ During YAPC, I added a few new metrics: - manifest_matches_dist Check if the stuff listed in MANIFEST matches what's in the dist

Re: post-YAPC::Europe CPANTS news

2006-09-07 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 04:28:56PM -0400, Michael G Schwern wrote: > Thanks for the updates, Thomas. And now on with the complaining! :-) > >- has_example > > An optional metric that checks if the author included a dir called > > 'eg|ex|example(s?)' which in turn includes at least on *.pl

Re: post-YAPC::Europe CPANTS news

2006-09-07 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 10:23:39AM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote: > >- has_example > > I thought we were generally negative on this one, because it would > encourage people to spuriously add trivial example directories to their > distributions... Yes, but I've recently introduced the concept

Re: post-YAPC::Europe CPANTS news

2006-09-12 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 11:15:50AM -0500, Chris Dolan wrote: Wow, excellent post! Some notes: > The next step in the exercise becomes how to implement those > measures. In the current CPANTS simple proxies are used for those > measures. Namely, we assume that if there is a t/*pod.t fi

Re: CPANTS quality brainstorming

2006-09-13 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 11:07:28PM -0500, Chris Dolan wrote: > I posted all of my thoughts on the Perl-QA wiki here: > http://perl-qa.yi.org/index.php/CPANTS_Quality_Goals Cool! I added a few things, most notably the new has_license metric (thanks again to Gabor Szabo for implementing it)

Re: CPANTS quality brainstorming

2006-09-13 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 02:24:16PM +0200, David Landgren wrote: > Oww, that includes all of mine, even though they state clearly in the > docs that they are distributed under the perl license. > > I assume this looks at the META.yml license key? I guess it's time to > take ExtUtils-MakeMa

Re: Getting Cruft off of CPANTS

2006-09-25 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 03:30:06PM -0600, Randy J. Ray wrote: > I asked this once before, but rather than getting an answer, someone just > "did it". There are some modules that I've deleted completely from CPAN; one > was because I renamed the top-level of the namespace (per conversation with

daily CPANTS data

2006-09-28 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I finally managed to set up a (working...) cronjob that analyses the new dists uploaded in the last 24 hours. You can expect new data each day around 02:45 EDT. -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.zsi.at for(ref bless{},just'another'perl'hacker){s-:+-$"-g&&print$_.

Re: Bioperl

2006-10-24 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 03:13:08PM +0100, Nathan Haigh wrote: > I have just discovered the cpants and was wondering why only version > 1.2.3 of bioperl has made it in and not the latest version 1.4? > > Does anyone have any ideas about this? CPANTS currently seems to have some problems with

CPANTS and META.yml

2006-11-03 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I had some time recently and added some first META.yml checking to CPANTS (with the help of Gabor Szabo): metayml_is_parsable metayml_has_license metayml_conforms_spec metayml_has_license now indictes whether there's a computer readable license in META.yml, while (the also new metric) has_hu

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

2006-11-03 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 03:35:41PM +0100, David Landgren wrote: > Aha, since I have your attention... :-) > I've been meaning to suggest the following changes, on the best and > worst reports pages: > > This distributions got the most Kwalitee: > --> These distributions have the most K

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

2006-11-03 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 10:47:36AM -0500, Michael G Schwern wrote: > meta-spec: > url: http://module-build.sourceforge.net/META-spec-v1.2.html > version: 1.2 The 'problem' is that this field was introduced in 1.1, and it seems that quite a lot of dists use 1.0 of META-spec. My

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

2006-11-03 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 01:00:58PM -0500, Michael G Schwern wrote: > Oh so THAT'S where all those reports of "-e META.yml not found" were > coming from. Module::Starter is being naughty and putting META.yml > into the MANIFEST before it exists. Well, after fixing this by removing META.yml

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

2006-11-07 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 06:58:11AM +0100, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > But yeah, other than that, I agree, the metric should check that > META.yml conforms to the spec it says it conforms to, and that > a metric that checks for conformance to the latest version should > be a bonus, if it exists at a

Re: Fixtures

2007-02-13 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 09:46:19AM +1100, Kirrily Robert wrote: > example used Test::Class's setup/teardown; would anyone else be able > to > provide confirm that I'm making sense in the following > Test::Harness/Test::More style example: I had to do something similar just yesterday. I wrote

Re: CPANTS?

2007-03-06 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 02:34:16PM +, Andy Armstrong wrote: > Does anyone apart from Thomas Klausner know anything about the status > of CPANTS? It's been down for about five days now. > > I'm trying to offer him free hosting for it but he doesn't seem to b

Re: CPANTS?

2007-03-06 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 10:01:09AM -0500, Christopher H. Laco wrote: > It's the CPANTS shuffle! Isn't this like, server/host 3 or so? :-) It is, which is my punishment for beeing to lazy to set up my own server :-) -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.zsi.at for(r

CPANTS up and running again

2007-03-11 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! CPANTS is now up and running again, with fresh data, which will be available daily. (There might be a problem with UTF8 and the database, but that should be solvable soon (especially as I know finally groked Unicode)). CPANTS now lives on a new server provided by hexten.net . Thanks!! You ca

Re: CPANTS spelling error, and incomplete coverage

2007-03-29 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 12:59:32PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > I just looked at the CPANTS thingy for one of my modules: > http://cpants.perl.org/dist/XML-DoubleEncodedEntities > > Apparently I should add a section to my documentation called "LICENSE". > There is already one called "CO

New CPANTS metrics

2007-03-31 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! Even though I was fighting mail servers today, I managed to put some time aside for long-needed CPANTS improvements. (And I really have to thank the Catalyst/DBIC-guys for their wonderfull tools which made me finish a big project on time (more on this later...)) So, the new CPANTS metrics are

YAPC::Europe Call for Hackathons

2007-04-04 Thread Thomas Klausner
.html We're also still looking for regular talks: http://vienna.yapceurope.org/ye2007/cfp.html Hope to see you in Vienna, Thomas Klausner on behalf of Vienna.pm -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.zsi.at for(ref bless{},just'another

Re: trying to setup Module::CPANTS::Analyse

2007-04-17 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 03:56:03PM +0100, Michael Stevens wrote: > I'm trying to use Module::CPANTS::Analyse, with the theory that will > let me test modules locally without waiting for them to go through > CPAN. > .. > Whenever I feed this a module to test, it prints 1 and 2 in the > logfi

Re: Test::Kwalitee

2007-05-09 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:43:57AM +0100, Nathan Haigh wrote: > The only bit I think needs to be hard-coded into Test::Kwalitee are the > indicators that rally have no reason to be tested when running the tests > on module files. I.e. those tests that need a tarball or the likes. The > indica

Re: Test::Kwalitee (was: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric)

2007-06-01 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 03:23:14PM +0100, Andy Armstrong wrote: > Test::Kwalitee currently exposes the known test types as methods. I can > make it delve into Module::CPANTS::Analyse to find the tests that are > actually available - but then what to do about the methods? Sorry, not a lot of

Re: Kwalitee and "other dists requiring" report

2007-06-06 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:31:34PM -0500, Ian Malpass wrote: > Would it be easy and/or interesting to add the kwalitee of the > distributions listed in the "other dists requiring X" section of the > CPANTS report? That should be fairly easy to do. I think I'll have some time this weekend/e

Re: cpants not updating; new cpants test request

2007-09-11 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 01:43:43PM +0100, Andy Armstrong wrote: > On 10 Sep 2007, at 22:10, Anonymous wrote: > >looks like the cpants site has stopped updating for about 3 > >weeks now. > > Oops. That's my fault. cron job now re-enabled. Blush. No, that was my fault, as I turned it off. CPA

Re: cpants not updating; new cpants test request

2007-09-11 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 11:10:25PM +0200, Anonymous wrote: > also, would it make sense to have a test to check for warnings > when warnings are enabled globally? many modules do not enable > warnings, but when you use those modules and run the script > with -w, it's possible to get lots of w

Re: cpants not updating; new cpants test request

2007-09-11 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 08:39:57PM +0100, Andy Armstrong wrote: > On 11 Sep 2007, at 20:37, Thomas Klausner wrote: > >On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 01:43:43PM +0100, Andy Armstrong wrote: > >>On 10 Sep 2007, at 22:10, Anonymous wrote: > >>>looks like the cpants site ha

Test::Pod / YAML explodes (and taking cpants with it...)

2007-09-13 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! You might wonder why cpants.perl.org is still down, even though I found some time to work on it. Here's why: Some dists (eg Number::Phone) currently cause segfaults in cpants [Meta: I changed a few things in how cpants processes CPAN. In a first pass, cpants writes a YAML file for each di

Re: Bug fix in Test::More 0.71 may reveal failures tests

2007-09-17 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 01:49:42PM +0200, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > * Jonathan Rockway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-09-17 13:20]: > > Your method was much better than my "try installing stuff I > > need and see what fails" technique :) > > If anyone has a CPAN grepper script they could do an even be

New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-12 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I'm currently thinking about a new CPANTS metric (and I even have a half-finished implementation..), and I'd like to get some feedback on it, before spending more time on it (or even releasing it..) The metric will be called prereq_matches_use and shall check if all the modules used in a d

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-22 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 12:25:49PM +0100, David Landgren wrote: > I have just looked at the latest CPANTS results. I see that all my modules > fail this metric... but I am unsure as to why. Consider: > > http://cpants.perl.org/dist/prereq/Integer-Partition > > I agree, it's probably best t

Smoking private dists?

2008-02-05 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I've recently started a new job (and a small company (which btw explains a certain CPANTS lagging on my part...)), and we want to smoke test our code. Are there any tools/frameworks available that would (in a perfect, lazy world) to the following: * fetch various projects from git (HEAD,

Re: CPANTS Site Seems... Confused

2008-02-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 02:34:15PM -0800, Randy J. Ray wrote: > information. Just a little while ago, I checked the CPANTS site and noticed > I had a crapload of red marks, almost all of which are wrong (one of the two > dists doesn't have LICENSE sections in pod, or a "LICENSE" file). But I'

Re: CPANTS Site Seems... Confused

2008-02-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:23:38AM +0100, Thomas Klausner wrote: > While I was away last week (snowboarding..) CPANTS seems to have acquired > yet another bug. As soon as I have some free time (maybe tomorrow, but > at the latest this weekend during FOSDEM) I'll take a l

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