Re: Public Humiliation and Kwalitee (was Re: Tested File-Find-Object-0.1.1 with Class::Accessor not installed)

2008-10-24 Thread rfisk
Sad. I think this is a cultural issue which is mitigated in most professional organizations when agile is adopted. In my experience, waterfall pits testers against developers. In an agile environment that demarcation is blurred. If I'm reading that report properly it appears as if the top of the

Re: numeric plans - feature or symptom?

2009-01-24 Thread rfisk
That was a terrific eplanation and I thank you for taking the time to explain. Much appreciated. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Michael G Schwern Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:48:57 To: Cc: David E. Wheeler; Eric Wilhelm; Subject: Re: numeric plans - feature

Re: numeric plans - feature or symptom?

2009-01-24 Thread rfisk
Late to this discussion. But can somebody explain to me why in java or .net or groovy or ruby a programmer doesn't have to induicate the number of tests that will run before hand but in perl he must? --Original Message-- From: Michael G Schwern To: David E. Wheeler Cc: Eric Wilhelm Cc: pe