If you're going to TPC, here's the QA-ish things going on that I know of: Monday, 1:45pm - 5:15pm "How To Be Lazy Without Really Trying" Tutorial on basic software engineering techniques. It's actually *not* Perl specific. Monday, 8pm - 9pm Lazy Asses BOF Basically a question and answer session for the "How To Be Lazy" tutorial. If you couldn't make/afford the tutorial or have questions, come to this. Wednesday, 3:45pm - 4:30pm "Perl Refactorings" About the trials and tribulations of trying to clean up Perl programs. Wednesday, 8pm - 9pm Perl Refactoring BOF Further discussion of the above talk. Thursday, 8pm - 9pm Embedded Testing BOF Discussion about the talk to come (its the last talk of the conference) Friday, 4:30pm - 5:15pm "Embedded Testing with Pod::Tests" Same as the talk at YAPC. If there's more, post them up! -- Michael G. Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Perl6 Quality Assurance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kwalitee Is Job One