At 11:58 14/05/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 09:09:05AM -0500, Cameron Dorey wrote:
> > > At 08:50 13/05/2002 -0400, Tillman, James wrote:
> > >
> > > >We're discussing hackers using the true meaning of the word, which is "a
> > > >programmer who loves his craft", not "a stupid j
At 09:09 14/05/2002 -0500, Cameron Dorey wrote:
>Lee Goddard wrote:
> >
> > At 08:50 13/05/2002 -0400, Tillman, James wrote:
> >
> > >We're discussing hackers using the true meaning of the word, which is "a
> > >programmer who loves his craft", not "a stupid jerk with nothing better to
> > >do tha
On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 09:09:05AM -0500, Cameron Dorey wrote:
> > At 08:50 13/05/2002 -0400, Tillman, James wrote:
> >
> > >We're discussing hackers using the true meaning of the word, which is "a
> > >programmer who loves his craft", not "a stupid jerk with nothing better to
> > >do than trash
Lee Goddard wrote:
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> At 08:50 13/05/2002 -0400, Tillman, James wrote:
>
> >We're discussing hackers using the true meaning of the word, which is "a
> >programmer who loves his craft", not "a stupid jerk with nothing better to
> >do than trash other people's systems."
>
> Pedantic: the former
At 13/05/2002 13:50:39, "Tillman, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
# > aren't all viruses written in VB?
# >
# > Then again, use perl: move away from the M$ monoculture.
#
# I can see where the wording of my response might have caused this confusion.
#
# We're discussing hackers using the t
> aren't all viruses written in VB?
>
> Then again, use perl: move away from the M$ monoculture.
I can see where the wording of my response might have caused this confusion.
We're discussing hackers using the true meaning of the word, which is "a
programmer who loves his craft", not "a stupid j
aren't all viruses written in VB?
Then again, use perl: move away from the M$ monoculture.
At 10/05/2002 13:58:02, "Tillman, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
# > Biggest problem I can find with Perl is that it is free, and
# > relatively easy.
#
# Agreed!
#
# > I suppose there are a lot of
At 08:58 10/05/2002 -0400, Tillman, James wrote:
>Certainly, but I'll wager there are very, very, very few VB-only programmers
>who deserve the label of "hacker" ;-)
Hacker in the sense of hacking together bits of other
people's stuff and calling it Art... or their own.
As in newspaper reporte
> Biggest problem I can find with Perl is that it is free, and
> relatively easy.
Agreed!
> I suppose there are a lot of hackers who give Perl Hackers a
> bad name, but isn't that the case with VB and C++?
Certainly, but I'll wager there are very, very, very few VB-only programmers
who deserv
At 06:52 10/05/2002 -0400, Tillman, James wrote:
>Anyway, I hope all this helps. For what it's worth, my employer doesn't
>promote the use of Perl either, despite the fact that I use it daily in
>project management tasks to save hours of time and I have put together a
>completely functional Cont
>Once again deftly proving what an idiot I am, I butcher a great
>philosopher's name. The quote was from the work of Lao _Tzu_. I'm a
>Taoist, not a Maoist, I swear ;-)
We know: we just didn't want to spoil a *beautiful* moment man
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I was refering to a company that would role out a software solution
completely in Perl. That would not make sense. I know that some
companies
use Perl internally, and it solves a lot of problems. But
I was refering to a company that would role out a software solution
completely in Perl. That would not make sense. I know that some companies
use Perl internally, and it solves a lot of problems. But I have never
heard of a very successful surviving company that has packaged Perl software
that t
Perl + Win32::GUI ( + a little bit design
with GUI Loft ) is quite powerful.
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|> macnerd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
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|> > I don't know where you get the production from. I don't know
|> > anyone in their righ
macnerd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> I don't know where you get the production from. I don't know
> anyone in their right mind that would use Perl for production.
> If there were, those companies are not in business.
Er um I think that Mentor, Cadence, and Valor to name but a few compani
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> Macnerd:
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> # We do automation of Microsoft Exchange Server, which will
> # grow to include Lotus Notes server as well in the future. I
> # created a quick batch of tools in VB
Hi Floyd...
Reply to random thoughts with even more random thoughts
randomly dispersed throughtout randomly. :-)
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> Floyd Russell
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>
> Random thoughts scattered throughout.. I'm avoiding work.
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> |> > Hi all.
> |> >
> |> > I am a QA
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> Your team needs to write GUI apps in a Windows environment,
> automating MS
> Exchange Server and Lotus Notes using OLE?
>
Your team needs to write GUI apps in a Windows environment, automating MS
Exchange Server and Lotus Notes using OLE?
There are many places in which perl is the best tool for the job, but I have
to say, this isn't one of them. In this forum I'll probably catch some flak
for saying this, but I'm si
Random thoughts scattered throughout.. I'm avoiding work.
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Ted Zeng wrote:
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> I agree that Module installation is a nightmare with perl.
&
cript. Isn't this
what file serving is all about?
Seems
to me that COM objects would be the real pain to keep up with on systems across
the network.
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Ted Zeng wrote:
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> I agree that Module installation is a nightmare with perl.
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> ted
>
I think we all know that it is generally easier to code for Windows with
MS tools.
Its almost as though they were illegally leveraging a monopoly ...
They have gone to great lengths to erect barriers on the
Install Perl and required modules on a web server and
deliver your apps via an intranet. No client installs, thin client
delivery, low maintenance (code only on the server).
Just a Thought
Rich
>>> "macnerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/26/02
01:32PM >>>Hi all.I am a QA tester at some company
I agree that Module installation is a nightmare with perl.
ted
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> Hi all.
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