Re: META.yml: generation

2004-12-24 Thread Jos I. Boumans
On Dec 24, 2004, at 5:46 AM, Ken Williams wrote: I do think that the real root of this problem is that mod_perl 2 is essentially a different beast from mod_perl 1, but it's being crammed into the same namespace. That has caused many people pain for a long time already - for Mason we always got

Re: [PATCH] Re: Smoke [5.9.2] 23675 FAIL(m) openvms E8.2 (Alpha/4 cpu)

2004-12-24 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 07:07:29PM -0600, Craig A. Berry wrote: Nicholas Clark wrote: What's the best way to patch Configure.com to create the line userelocatableinc='undef' in config.sh? This'll do it. Thanks, applied (23677) Nicholas Clark

Re: [patch perlapi doc] sv_magic

2004-12-24 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Stas Bekman wrote: Care to submit a patch ? --- sv.c.orig 2004-12-23 16:24:21.255855616 -0500 +++ sv.c2004-12-23 16:27:45.305002079 -0500 @@ -5406,6 +5406,9 @@ See Csv_magicext (which Csv_magic now calls) for a description of the handling of the Cname and Cnamlen arguments.

[perl #33173] shellwords.pl and tainting

2004-12-24 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Please include the string: [perl #33173] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # URL: http://rt.perl.org:80/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=33173 This is a bug report for perl from [EMAIL PROTECTED], generated with the

Re: META.yml: generation

2004-12-24 Thread Andreas J Koenig
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:31:01 +0100, Jos I. Boumans [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Dec 24, 2004, at 5:46 AM, Ken Williams wrote: I feel like any solutions we try to hurry into CPAN to try to band-aid the problem are going to be ad-hoc and regrettable. Again, I concur -- as i've

perlpodtut

2004-12-24 Thread Juerd
Hi there, Over a year and a half ago, I wrote POD in 5 minutes. There was no POD tutorial, and people had said that perlpod was a bit overwhelming for a POD-newbie. This tutorial has already helped a lot of people move from text or HTML files to POD. I first posted it to Perl Monks 2003-04-23,

Re: META.yml: generation

2004-12-24 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Andreas J Koenig wrote: On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:31:01 +0100, Jos I. Boumans [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Dec 24, 2004, at 5:46 AM, Ken Williams wrote: I feel like any solutions we try to hurry into CPAN to try to band-aid the problem are going to be ad-hoc and regrettable.

Re: Smoke [5.9.2] 23670 FAIL(m) linux 2.4.21-1 [redhat] (i686/1 cpu)

2004-12-24 Thread Abe Timmerman
Op een grimmige herfstdag (Thursday 23 December 2004 11:07),schreef Abe Timmerman: Automated smoke report for 5.9.2 patch 23670 yola: Pentium III (Coppermine) (GenuineIntel 731MHz) (i686/1 cpu) onlinux - 2.4.21-1 [redhat] using ccache gcc version 3.2.2 20030222 (Red Hat

Re: broken PAUSE indexer? META.yaml is ignored?

2004-12-24 Thread Andreas J Koenig
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:17:22 -0500, Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Well, the suggested plan is something that we (not Stas) have come up with here on p5p when this issue was discussed several times over the last few years, it just fell through the cracks and now it has re-emerged

Re: META.yml: generation

2004-12-24 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
I wrote: (/puts his hat guy responsible for the package management software at Mandrakesoft) Fourded (what's the verb for four anyway ?) I realize that this may sound harsh, given that many people are aware of this issue with mod_perl (and eventually other modules (IIRC GD has more or less

Smoke [5.9.2] 23678 FAIL(c) bsd/os 4.1 (i386/1 cpu)

2004-12-24 Thread kane
Automated smoke report for 5.9.2 patch 23678 on bsd/os - 4.1 (i386/1 cpu) (fixit.xs4all.nl) using version Report by Test::Smoke v1.18.09 (perl 5.00503) [3 hours 3 minutes] O = OK F = Failure(s), extended report at the bottom X = test(s) failed under TEST but not under harness ? = still running

Re: Smoke [5.9.2] 23670 FAIL(m) openbsd 3.6 (i386/1 cpu)

2004-12-24 Thread Steve Peters
On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 09:12:43AM -0600, Steve Peters wrote: On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 03:46:00AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Automated smoke report for 5.9.2 patch 23670 mccoy.peters.homeunix.org: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class, 512KB L2 cache) (i386/1 cpu) on

Re: Missign STATEMENT brackets in PUSHMARK

2004-12-24 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Ton Hospel wrote: While trying to do ... if (condition) PUSHMARK(SP); ... I didn't work at all until I finally realized that PUSHMARK is not protected by STMT_START and STMT_END Here is a patch for pp.h (5.8.5 version) that adds the missing cases: Thanks, applied as #23680 to blead.

Re: [perl #33173] shellwords.pl and tainting

2004-12-24 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (via RT) wrote: Below is an updated version of shellwords.pl with the following changes: Thanks, applied as #23681 to blead. - keep taint - use the local *_ = ref trick to defeat tied $_ - use my variables instead of local, and drop the now unneeded internal package -

use Apache2 considered harmful

2004-12-24 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Ken == Ken Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ken That's *not* a very good reason to introduce a new module with a new Ken interface using an old namespace. Hear hear. This is the source of the problem. mod_perl2 *is* a different beasty, but Stas and the team have incorrectly reused names

Re: perlpodtut

2004-12-24 Thread Ronald J Kimball
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 11:12:05AM +0100, Juerd wrote: This looks like a very helpful tutorial. I just have a few nits... :) =head1 NAME perlpodtut - Plain Old Documentation in 5 minutes =head1 DESCRIPTION This short tutorial will teach you how to write documentation with POD. POD

Re: perlpodtut

2004-12-24 Thread Russ Allbery
Ronald J Kimball [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 11:12:05AM +0100, Juerd wrote: =head2 Lists An example is much clearer than an explanation here. =head2 Methods =over 12 I think that should be =over 4, since the example shows an indent of 4 from the

Re: perlpodtut

2004-12-24 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 11:12:05AM +0100, Juerd wrote: =head2 Code examples Indented paragraphs render as code, with indenting intact. It's that easy! What does it mean for something to render as code? I think a reader will better understand with no extra formatting or as plain text.

Re: perlpodtut

2004-12-24 Thread Russ Allbery
Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 11:12:05AM +0100, Juerd wrote: And there are F, S, X and Z, but they're rarely used so not worth explaining in a simple tutorial. F is, I think, what you're supposed to use for URLs and email addresses and the like (in

Re: perlpodtut

2004-12-24 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 11:16:57AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: =head1 LICENSE This is released under the Artistic License. See Lperlartistic. Since people like to cut paste, this should probably be the standard same as Perl wording plus a copyright notice. This should be

Re: perlpodtut

2004-12-24 Thread Juerd
Ronald J Kimball skribis 2004-12-24 11:56 (-0500): =item SYNOPSIS means see together and shows example usage. A synopsis is a brief summary. The derivation of the word doesn't seem useful here. Overview is more correct, I think. And because in typical POD documents, the DESCRIPTION part

Re: broken PAUSE indexer? META.yaml is ignored?

2004-12-24 Thread Joe Schaefer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas J Koenig) writes: To map this down to perl5 is challenging (as you know) and will have to deal with tradeoffs. The mod_perl community seems to have made the firm decision that the namespaces of all collected modules will stay the same. That's fine by me. But it's

re: perlpodtut

2004-12-24 Thread Jim Cromie
Ronald J Kimball wrote: On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 11:12:05AM +0100, Juerd wrote: This looks like a very helpful tutorial. I just have a few nits... :) yeay, with following addition(s) =head2 Headings in POD Logical structure is important. So we use headings. There are four levels, and this

Re: perlpodtut

2004-12-24 Thread Juerd
Michael G Schwern skribis 2004-12-24 14:11 (-0500): Indented paragraphs render as code, with indenting intact. It's that easy! What does it mean for something to render as code? I think a reader will better understand with no extra formatting or as plain text. You're right. Same is true for

Re: perlpodtut

2004-12-24 Thread Juerd
This should be =head1 COPYRIGHT AND LICENSE to fit what's done elsewhere Google hit counts, with filetype:pod head1 license -head1 license and copyright 183 head1 copyright -head1 copyright and license 4180 head1 copyright and license 105 head1 license and copyright

Re: perlpodtut

2004-12-24 Thread Russ Allbery
Juerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Google hit counts, with filetype:pod head1 license -head1 license and copyright 183 head1 copyright -head1 copyright and license 4180 head1 copyright and license 105 head1 license and copyright2 I don't

Re: perlpodtut

2004-12-24 Thread Abigail
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 08:57:14PM +0100, Juerd wrote: I'm thinking of removing my email address entirely from all my modules, because module documentation is too wide spread. Anyone with at least a nanobrain can find out many ways to contact me. As long as there's contact information on

how to add more than one user magic of the same type with perl 5.6.x

2004-12-24 Thread Stas Bekman
We have a situation where we need to add more than one PERL_MAGIC_ext magic to an object. sv_magicext which allows to do that is available starting from 5.8.x+. What do I do if I need to support 5.6.x? Thanks. -- __ Stas Bekman

Re: perlpodtut

2004-12-24 Thread Juerd
We use the C=head1 .. C=head4 commands. (They are called Icommand paragraphs officially. They are paragraphs because they're separated from the rest of the POD by blank lines.) I dont see sufficient value in explaining the official name. I do, and think it's *VERY* important to include such

[perl #33180] reopen of STDIN doesn't flush input buffer

2004-12-24 Thread via RT
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On read and unicode

2004-12-24 Thread Ton Hospel
Currently if you do: my $in = f\xfezz; utf8::upgrade($in); print Old in='$in'\n; print unpack(H*, $in), \n; read(STDIN, $in, 3, 2); print Now in='$in'\n; print unpack(H*, $in), \n; print is utf8:, utf8::is_utf8($in) ? 1 : 0, \n; and type abc as input, you get: Old in='fþzz' 66c3be7a7a abc Now

Re: On read and unicode

2004-12-24 Thread Ton Hospel
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ton Hospel) writes: $buf = substr($buf, $off); Oops, that should be $buf = substr($buf, 0, $off); # With the current semantics for the raw/unicode-ness of the filehandle: $rc = read($fh, my $tmp, $len); if ($rc)

Re: perlpodtut

2004-12-24 Thread David Nicol
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 22:56:09 +0100, Juerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * see together And actually every single word that can be seen as Perl jargon. synopsis is not Perl jargon, it's a simple english word, a fancy way to say summary, and stating that it's Greek for together, with the eyes is yes,