Re: Why do users need FileHandles?

2004-07-26 Thread Larry Wall
On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 11:41:14PM -0500, Dan Hursh wrote: : Larry Wall wrote: : : On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 01:32:29AM -0500, Dan Hursh wrote: : : 2. Really core. This is the sort of standard library. Just the most : : essential bits that are required for general Perl usability. You'd : : probably

Re: Pie-thon state 5 - and final

2004-07-26 Thread ssmith
I'd like to second the wow. I've been lurking on the list for two years, and I wanted to say how impressive this is. The promise of Parrot seems like a fantasy, and here you are with most of Python running at better speed than on it's own interpreter. It's gone from a fantasy to a defect list.

Re: String interpolation

2004-07-26 Thread Piers Cawley
Larry Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 11:00:39PM -0700, chromatic wrote: : On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 19:35, Luke Palmer wrote: : : The New Way (tm) to do that would probably be sticking a role onto the : array object with which you're dealing: : : my @foo does

Re: String interpolation

2004-07-26 Thread Piers Cawley
Damian Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can't say I'm keen on making {...} special in strings. I felt that the $(...) and @(...) were a much cleaner and more general solution. The prospect of backslashing every opening brace in every interpolated string is not one I relish. Maybe we could

This week's summary

2004-07-26 Thread The Perl 6 Summarizer
The Perl 6 Summary for the week ending 2004-07-25 Monday morning, all's well, and Piers sits down at his desk to bash out another in his ongoing series of Perl 6 Summaries. I've just realised that I missed noting the second anniversary of my writing these summaries. It came up a

Re: xx and re-running

2004-07-26 Thread Matthew Walton
Larry Wall wrote: The rand function may be a bad example, since it's by nature a generator, and you should maybe have to work harder to get a single value out of it. We haven't really said what $fh xx 100 should do, for instance. I guess the real question is whether xx supplies a list context to

Re: Why do users need FileHandles?^H^H^H^H^HCore modules?

2004-07-26 Thread David Green
On 7/23/04, Luke Palmer wrote: Not necessarily. Glop, on which I'm doing a presentation at OSCON (have to plug it sometime ;-), Game Language on Perl, you say? Goodness, what's that?? Sorry. Got tired of English. =) There's a lot of stuff like that. Way too much to include in a distribution.

Re: String interpolation

2004-07-26 Thread David Green
On 7/21/04, Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon wrote: Amen. Please don't steal unnecessary metacharacters in qq() strings--although I still think we should keep it, @ causes a lot of problems. That's why my suggestion would be to use a character that already has a special meaning in double-quoted

Re: Why do users need FileHandles?

2004-07-26 Thread Dan Hursh
Larry Wall wrote: Sounds like you're confusing #3 with #4. Larry Could be. Does 3 mean at install time, you down load the latest of the 'supported' packages from the CPAN alike or is it more like versioned snapshots? (Possibly yet to be decided?) It's the idea of a standard library being

Re: This week's summary

2004-07-26 Thread Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon
The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: The infinite thread Pushing onto lazy lists continued to exercise the p6l crowd (or at least, a subset of it). Larry said that if someone wanted to hack surreal numbers into Perl 6.1 then that would be cool. Care to explain what those are, O great math

Re: This week's summary

2004-07-26 Thread Stéphane Payrard
On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 10:29:15AM -0700, Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon wrote: The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: The infinite thread Pushing onto lazy lists continued to exercise the p6l crowd (or at least, a subset of it). Larry said that if someone wanted to hack surreal numbers into

Re: This week's summary

2004-07-26 Thread Kurt Starsinic
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:29:15 -0700, Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: The infinite thread Pushing onto lazy lists continued to exercise the p6l crowd (or at least, a subset of it). Larry said that if someone wanted to hack surreal

Re: String interpolation

2004-07-26 Thread James Mastros
David Green wrote: I was also going to say something tongue-in-cheek about Unicode quotation marks, but curly-quotes could actually be quite useful. Reasons not to use them as anything but synonyms for normal double quotes: 1) They look too much like each-other. 2) They look too much like

Re: This week's summary

2004-07-26 Thread Jonadab the Unsightly One
Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [surreal numbers] Care to explain what those are, O great math teacher? Surreal Number theory was an attempt in the latter half of the twentieth century to unify several existing sets of numbers (including the complex numbers, generalized

Re: Why do users need FileHandles?

2004-07-26 Thread Jonadab the Unsightly One
Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hopefully without dependencies on external non-Perl things like gcc). Don't think it'll be possible for modules that have C components, I'm really hoping Perl6 will be sufficiently powerful that C components won't be needed or wanted. Oh,