At 8:54 PM -0700 8/16/04, chromatic wrote:
On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 11:30, Michel Pelletier wrote:
I've noticed there are ops for interfaces, but no implementation or ppd
yet.
Perl 6 has roles which are much more useful than interfaces -- in fact,
interfaces are degenerate roles. See Apocalypse 12
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On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 08:41:58AM +0200, James
Mastros wrote:
BTW, what's $report-{files}{ninja}?
see here:
http://use.perl.org/comments.pl?
Okay, I looked at that link, and the link to one of
acme's
Two days ago I uploaded the most recent version of my
module List::Compare to CPAN. This was the first
version in whose development I used Paul Johnson's
Devel::Cover to analyze the test suite's coverage of
the module's code and, as a result, over 3300 tests
were added, both to test new code and
On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 09:50:11AM +0200, Rafael Garcia-Suarez ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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BTW, isn't the habit to post to c.l.p.announce a bit deprecated now ?
Yeah, now we just post to use.perl.org.
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This needs some docs, but I figured I'd throw out the short
description to the list since they've come up, and we ought to finish
them.
For parrot, interfaces are *very* simple things. An interface is a
string tag which can be attached to a class. Each class can have
multiple interface tags
since presumably interfaces are a bit more uniquely named than
methods, and an object may be able to do something some class does
while not actually being in that class.
should interface names be registered somewhere?
how are collisions handled?
i can imagine a scenario where multiple
At 10:55 AM -0400 8/17/04, Gay, Jerry wrote:
since presumably interfaces are a bit more uniquely named than
methods, and an object may be able to do something some class does
while not actually being in that class.
should interface names be registered somewhere?
Nope.
how are collisions
On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 06:22:13AM -0700, Jim Keenan wrote:
Two days ago I uploaded the most recent version of my
module List::Compare to CPAN. This was the first
version in whose development I used Paul Johnson's
Devel::Cover to analyze the test suite's coverage of
the module's code and, as
Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This needs some docs, but I figured I'd throw out the short
description to the list since they've come up, and we ought to finish
them.
$ cat does.pasm
new P0, .Array
does I0, P0, array
print I0
does I0, P0, scalar
print I0
print \n
The first thing I noticed after using Devel::Cover was how much output
it generates. The HTML files depicting the line-by-line status of the
coverage are enormous.
I assume you're talking about the large amount of data reported and not
the actual file sizes? The HTML files are massive
On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 11:07:59AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
2) In the absence of evidence to the contrary, methods always
assume they have *no* arguments. For methods:
2a) A method not followed by a left paren or colon has no
arguments.
Just checking--whitespace
At 12:11 PM -0400 8/17/04, Felix Gallo wrote:
The summary: request for architectural analysis.
The motivation: there are certain languages, possibly including perl 6,
that will benefit from the ability to flow from one parrot interpreter
to another.
We could add a few keywords and call the
I don't know what's eating my mail, but evidently the attachment never
made it out. I tracked down this particular problem and fixed it for
the actual case I was using, which was not a PerlHash at all but
rather my own custom Match PMC for use in regexes. The attached patch
resolves the exact
Oh, and while I have my fingers crossed, I may as well throw in the
original test patch as well. I'll let these messages go to hell
together.
Urk! Except I used stupid filenames, and swapped the attachments. So
this attachment is actually the patch. Need more sleep.
? src/py_func.str
Index:
I needed to create a Match PMC object for holding the match groups
(parenthesized expressions and capturing rules) from a regex match.
Unfortunately, it works by using another new PMC type, the MatchRange
PMC, to signal that an element of its hashtable should be interpreted
specially (as a
Oh, and here's my test code for the Match PMC. This is really just a
copy of t/pmc/perlhash.t (since the Match PMC is supposed to behave
like a hash for the most part), but with one added test case at the
end showing how this would be used to store and retrieve
hypotheticals.
Index: t/pmc/match.t
Dan writes:
Anyway, there *is* a threefold plan, involving quotas,
privileges/capabilities, and restricted embedding environments.
If there's a link out there, I must've missed it. Is there one?
clock time (ulimit style)
This'd be a per-interpreter, per-user quota.
Depending on how
On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 03:15:01AM -0600, Luke Palmer wrote:
: Michel Pelletier writes:
: We have to through an IndexError exception for Python. But that's not
: done yet.
:
: Okay, I'll keep depth checking. I thought about attempting a patch, but
: Larry says return an undef containing
On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 04:21:09PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No. There's (currently) no option for doing so. The HTML is well formed,
though, which should make building a filter easy if you know how the
formatting works. ;) e.g.:
Or applying an XSLT file to it?
Tony
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Moin,
On Monday 16 August 2004 22:00, Kirrily Skud Robert wrote:
In looking through perlnewmod, perlmodlib, perlmodstyle, and other
related POD today, I found that most of them are out of date and not in
keeping with recent trends in module writing,
At 1:30 PM -0400 8/17/04, Felix Gallo wrote:
Dan writes:
Anyway, there *is* a threefold plan, involving quotas,
privileges/capabilities, and restricted embedding environments.
If there's a link out there, I must've missed it. Is there one?
There isn't. I'll go fix that with PDD 18, Security and
David Storrs writes:
On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 11:07:59AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
2) In the absence of evidence to the contrary, methods always
assume they have *no* arguments. For methods:
2a) A method not followed by a left paren or colon has no
arguments.
Just
On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 07:16:52PM +0200, Tels wrote:
+it connected to the rest of the CPAN, you'll need to go to Register
+Namespace on PAUSE. Once registered, your module will appear in the
+by-module and by-category listings on CPAN.
Only a very few of my modules are registered in that
On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 02:01:31PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
Yep, per-interpreter means per-thread. Each thread gets an
interpreter. (Logically, at least. There'll only ever be one OS
thread in an interpreter at any one time, though I suppose it's
possible an interpreter could move from
On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 10:10:14AM -0700, Steve Fink wrote:
I don't know what's eating my mail, but evidently the attachment never
made it out. I tracked down this particular problem and fixed it for
perl.org's list server software eats attachments named /\.t$/
It appears sufficiently ingrained
Tony Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 04:21:09PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The HTML is well formed, though, which should make building a filter
easy if you know how the formatting works. ;) e.g.:
Or applying an XSLT file to it?
The HTML reports are really
Dan Sugalksi wrote:
VMS's (and yes, for the grammar wonks, that apostrophe is actually
correct)
I'd lay even odds that VMS would qualify for the ancient proper names
exception...
William Strunk, Jr. (1869-1946). The Elements of Style. 1918.
II. ELEMENTARY RULES OF USAGE
Form the
At 7:30 PM +0100 8/17/04, Nicholas Clark wrote:
On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 02:01:31PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
Yep, per-interpreter means per-thread. Each thread gets an
interpreter. (Logically, at least. There'll only ever be one OS
thread in an interpreter at any one time, though I suppose
On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 06:02:13PM +, Smylers wrote:
: David Storrs writes:
: Just checking--whitespace doesn't count, right?
:
: foo(1,2,3);# Func with 3 args
: foo (1,2,3); # Same exact thing
:
: You quote Larry's text about methods, then give an example using
:
On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 12:54, Larry Wall wrote:
But we'll just have to shoot anyone who makes a wisecrack like:
use parens :lisp;
Surely that should have its own pragma:
use parenths;
-- c
1) We're going to have MMD for functions soon
2) Function invocation and return continuation invocation's
essentially identical
3) Therefore returning from a sub/method can do MMD return based on
the return values
Someone probably ought to think about what sort of syntax you might
add to a
On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 09:01:39AM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
It returns a PerlUndef.
60 dlfunc P2, P1, g_signal_connect, lptpP - \
P2=NCI=PMC(0x8363fd0), P1=ParrotLibrary=PMC(0x8364108), ,
65 store_global Gtk::g_signal_connec, P2 - , \
On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 04:08:34PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
1) We're going to have MMD for functions soon
2) Function invocation and return continuation invocation's
essentially identical
3) Therefore returning from a sub/method can do MMD return based on
the return values
Someone
Dan~
This is the coolest things I have heard all day. I am not sure that
my brain is entirely around what situations it would be useful in yet.
But it is really cool.
It seems to me that it would probably be most useful in the tail call
setting where you are just passing the result from one
On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 16:22, Felix Gallo wrote:
On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 04:08:34PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
1) We're going to have MMD for functions soon
2) Function invocation and return continuation invocation's
essentially identical
3) Therefore returning from a sub/method can do
--- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By the way, how big is enormous? I had never
expected the size of the
HTML output to be a problem, but it obviously is to
some people.
'Enormous' is obviously a subjective judgment, so let
me describe the coverage files I've got and how I
worked
DS == Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What I'm planning on is a VMS-style quota, privilege, and identifier
system.
Pagan heretic -- you shall burn in the purifying flames of RSTS/E!
DS Mmmm, RSTS/E. And BASIC/PLUS 2.6. Now *those* were the days. Now,
DS where did I put
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 03:15:01 -0600
Luke Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michel Pelletier writes:
We have to through an IndexError exception for Python. But that's not
done yet.
Okay, I'll keep depth checking. I thought about attempting a patch, but
Larry says return an undef
Michel Pelletier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
$P0 = new .PerlArray
pop $P1, $P0
kills the process with a 'Array index out of bounds!'. Is there a way
to get an exception I can catch out of this?
We have to through an IndexError exception for Python. But that's not
done yet.
-Michel
leo
Kirrily Skud Robert wrote:
Here's an initial patch to perlnewmod, the main points of which are:
* recommend module-starter over h2xs
* modernise recommended h2xs invocation
* modernise list of recommended modules to learn from
* refer to Test::Simple and Test::More instead of Test
*
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 20:54:34 -0700
chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 11:30, Michel Pelletier wrote:
I've noticed there are ops for interfaces, but no implementation or
ppd yet.
Perl 6 has roles which are much more useful than interfaces -- in
fact, interfaces are
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 08:54:32 +0200
Leopold Toetsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michel Pelletier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
$P0 = new .PerlArray
pop $P1, $P0
kills the process with a 'Array index out of bounds!'. Is there a way
to get an exception I can catch out of this?
We have to
Michel Pelletier writes:
We have to through an IndexError exception for Python. But that's not
done yet.
Okay, I'll keep depth checking. I thought about attempting a patch, but
Larry says return an undef containing an unthrown exception, Dan wonders
if it should be an empty undef, and
Mattia Barbon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
this patch:
1) removes the necessity of having #define enum_class_Foo -1
in the dynpmc file
2) makes DYNSUPER fail at compile time instead of at runtime
3) makes MDD declarations work, as long as there isn't a circular
dependencies and
Will Coleda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nothing serious, just trying to clean up a few nits in assorted POD.
Thanks, applied.
leo
Mattia Barbon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hel=
lo,
this patch:
1) removes the necessity of having #define enu=
m_class_Foo -1
in the dynpmc file
2) makes DYNSUPER fail at=
compile time instead of at runtime
3) makes MDD declarations work, =
as long as there isn't a circular
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Kirrily Skud Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:Here's an initial patch to perlnewmod
Thank you.
: =item Get a CPAN user ID
:
:-Every developer publishing modules on CPAN needs a CPAN ID. See the
:-instructions at Chttp://www.cpan.org/modules/04pause.html (or
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/Users/nick/Sandpit/maint/bin/perl5.8.3 ../classes/pmc2c2.pl --c foo.pmc
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