Re: New Parrot mailing list

2008-09-19 Thread James E Keenan
Allison sent me this reply: On Sep 19, 2008, at 3:42 AM, Allison Randal wrote: James E Keenan wrote: Does this mean that the newsgroup perl.perl6.internal on nntp.perl.org is dying as well? If so, I think that will be a real loss. I vastly prefer the news interface to a mailing list

Re: Parrot 0.7.1 Manu Aloha released

2008-09-19 Thread Allison Randal
Patrick R. Michaud wrote: I sent the appropriate patch to the webmaster, but it hasn't been applied yet (and I lack a commit bit for the parrotcode.org site). Once that's applied, the url should be fixed. Thanks, applied. I also updated parrot.org. Allison

Re: New Parrot mailing list

2008-09-19 Thread Allison Randal
Patrick R. Michaud wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:00:31AM +0200, Allison Randal wrote: We'll likely end up with messages scattered between both lists for a little while, but the perl6-internals/parrot-porters addresses are deprecated and will be disabled after a sensible deprecation cycle

Re: New Parrot mailing list

2008-09-19 Thread Allison Randal
James E Keenan wrote: I set up the Google Group, because I know a number of people are using it. Can I see a show of hands of people who are only using NNTP and would have difficulty switching to a regular email subscription or Google Group? (I can't send to a newsgroup from my email

Re: [perl #58982] Bug -- make per6 unexpected dot

2008-09-19 Thread Kamil Kułaga
After realclean works fine. Sorry -- Pozdrawiam

[perl #59014] Made some fixes to split on a regex and moved from Str.pir to any-str.pir

2008-09-19 Thread Chris Davaz
# New Ticket Created by Chris Davaz # Please include the string: [perl #59014] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # URL: http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=59014 Got rid of tempstr and now returns the entire string on a non-match. Index:

Re: Should $.foo attributes without is rw be writable from within the class

2008-09-19 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Qui, 2008-09-18 às 18:11 +0200, TSa escreveu: Shouldn't there be a warning in B that $!B::bar overwrites $!A::bar without an accessor? Actually, $!B::bar doesn't overwrite $!A::bar... the problem is simply that $!A::bar is not visible from inside B, and therefore, there's nothing to be

[perl #45909] [TODO] Replace quadratic search with something linear in find_exception_handler()

2008-09-19 Thread Christoph Otto via RT
On Wed Sep 17 16:57:06 2008, cotto wrote: On Mon Oct 01 10:40:33 2007, pcoch wrote: In src/exceptions.c there is the todo comment: [TODO: replace quadratic search with something linear, hopefully without trashing abstraction layers I can't find this comment any more, nor any occurrence

Re: New Parrot mailing list

2008-09-19 Thread Andy Dougherty
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008, James E Keenan wrote: Allison sent me this reply: I set up the Google Group, because I know a number of people are using it. Can I see a show of hands of people who are only using NNTP and would have difficulty switching to a regular email subscription or Google

Re: New Parrot mailing list

2008-09-19 Thread James E Keenan
Allison Randal wrote: James E Keenan wrote: I set up the Google Group, because I know a number of people are using it. Can I see a show of hands of people who are only using NNTP and would have difficulty switching to a regular email subscription or Google Group? (I can't send to a

[perl #58866] calling a PIR sub with 206 params segfaults parrot

2008-09-19 Thread Christoph Otto via RT
On Thu Sep 18 08:52:10 2008, julianalbo wrote: I changed the fix in r31230 to allocate char instead of char *, adjusted the formula for buffer size and added a comment explaining it to lower the level of black magic, and added a check for each item, dropping the XXX comment that asked for it.

[perl #59016] Re: Made some fixes to split on a regex and moved from Str.pir to any-str.pir

2008-09-19 Thread Chris Davaz
# New Ticket Created by Chris Davaz # Please include the string: [perl #59016] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # URL: http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=59016 Sorry forgot to put the method in alphabetical order, here you go. On Fri, Sep 19,

[perl #59064] [BUG] split function doesn't work

2008-09-19 Thread Patrick R. Michaud (via RT)
# New Ticket Created by Patrick R. Michaud # Please include the string: [perl #59064] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # URL: http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=59064 On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:33:27AM +1100, Илья wrote: For example:

[perl #59068] [BUG] .perl on strings doesn't properly escape all sequences

2008-09-19 Thread Patrick R. Michaud (via RT)
# New Ticket Created by Patrick R. Michaud # Please include the string: [perl #59068] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # URL: http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=59068 On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:29:30AM +0400, Andrew Shitov wrote: when I tried

Re: New Parrot mailing list

2008-09-19 Thread Allison Randal
James E Keenan wrote: That's false. I replied to the newsgroup, which is mirrored by the mailing list. Whenever I've posted to the list (independent of posts to RT), the posts have been mirrored by the mailing list. You asked we to forward this on, so I did exactly what I've done for

Re: New Parrot mailing list

2008-09-19 Thread Allison Randal
Andy Dougherty wrote: I use NNTP. I much prefer the command-line news interface to Google Groups, but I guess I wouldn't go so far as to say I would have difficulty switching to a regular email subscription. Or, to put it another way: If there were an NNTP interface, I would definitely use

Patch for split(thing, delimiter) function

2008-09-19 Thread Chris Davaz
Moved the split function from Str.pir to any-str.pm and removed the Perl6Str coercion. Index: src/builtins/any-str.pir === --- src/builtins/any-str.pir (revision 31254) +++ src/builtins/any-str.pir (working copy) @@ -172,6 +172,31 @@

Re: Should $.foo attributes without is rw be writable from within the class

2008-09-19 Thread TSa
HaloO, Daniel Ruoso wrote: Qui, 2008-09-18 às 18:11 +0200, TSa escreveu: Shouldn't there be a warning in B that $!B::bar overwrites $!A::bar without an accessor? Actually, $!B::bar doesn't overwrite $!A::bar... the problem is simply that $!A::bar is not visible from inside B, and therefore,

Re: Patch for split(thing, delimiter) function

2008-09-19 Thread Moritz Lenz
Chris Davaz wrote: Moved the split function from Str.pir to any-str.pm and removed the Perl6Str coercion. Thanks, applied as r31265. Moritz -- Moritz Lenz http://moritz.faui2k3.org/ | http://perl-6.de/

What should ''.split('') return?

2008-09-19 Thread Moritz Lenz
Hi, what should ''.split('') return? The empty list, or a list with one null string? Moritz -- Moritz Lenz http://moritz.faui2k3.org/ | http://perl-6.de/

Re: What should ''.split('') return?

2008-09-19 Thread Larry Wall
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 05:58:59PM +0200, Moritz Lenz wrote: : Hi, : : what should ''.split('') return? The empty list, or a list with one null : string? Empty list would make more sense as a degenerate case. In 'a'.split('') we don't return the null strings before or after 'a', just

[perl #59074] Patch for split(thing, delimiter) function

2008-09-19 Thread Chris Davaz
# New Ticket Created by Chris Davaz # Please include the string: [perl #59074] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # URL: http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=59074 Moved the split function from Str.pir to any-str.pm and removed the Perl6Str

Re: Should $.foo attributes without is rw be writable from within the class

2008-09-19 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Sex, 2008-09-19 às 17:49 +0200, TSa escreveu: Daniel Ruoso wrote: Qui, 2008-09-18 às 18:11 +0200, TSa escreveu: Shouldn't there be a warning in B that $!B::bar overwrites $!A::bar without an accessor? Actually, $!B::bar doesn't overwrite $!A::bar... the problem is simply that $!A::bar

Re: {SPAM} Re: Should $.foo attributes without is rw be writable from within the class

2008-09-19 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Sex, 2008-09-19 às 17:49 +0200, TSa escreveu: Daniel Ruoso wrote: Qui, 2008-09-18 às 18:11 +0200, TSa escreveu: Shouldn't there be a warning in B that $!B::bar overwrites $!A::bar without an accessor? Actually, $!B::bar doesn't overwrite $!A::bar... the problem is simply that $!A::bar

Re: What should ''.split('') return?

2008-09-19 Thread Moritz Lenz
Larry Wall wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 05:58:59PM +0200, Moritz Lenz wrote: : Hi, : : what should ''.split('') return? The empty list, or a list with one null : string? Empty list would make more sense as a degenerate case. In 'a'.split('') we don't return the null

Re: Should $.foo attributes without is rw be writable from within the class

2008-09-19 Thread Jon Lang
Daniel Ruoso wrote: TSa wrote: May I pose three more questions? 1. I guess that even using $!A::bar in methods of B is an access violation, right? I.e. A needs to trust B for that to be allowed. Yes 2. The object has to carry $!A::bar and $!B::bar separately, right? Yes 3.

Re: Should $.foo attributes without is rw be writable from within the class

2008-09-19 Thread Jonathan Worthington
Jon Lang wrote: Daniel Ruoso wrote: TSa wrote: May I pose three more questions? 1. I guess that even using $!A::bar in methods of B is an access violation, right? I.e. A needs to trust B for that to be allowed. Yes 2. The object has to carry $!A::bar and

Re: How to define a new value type?

2008-09-19 Thread John M. Dlugosz
TSa Thomas.Sandlass-at-vts-systems.de |Perl 6| wrote: So again the question: are back refs from the value to the containers required to implement Perl 6? I guess not. If I understand what you are saying, I agree. You can only go from some container to a value, not the opposite direction,

Re: Should $.foo attributes without is rw be writable from within the class

2008-09-19 Thread John M. Dlugosz
TSa Thomas.Sandlass-at-vts-systems.de |Perl 6| wrote: class A { has $.foo = A; has $!bar = A; method blahh() { say $.foo ~ $!foo ~ $!bar; } } class B is A { has $.foo = B; has $!bar = B; } my $a = A.new; my $b

Re: Should $.foo attributes without is rw be writable from within the class

2008-09-19 Thread John M. Dlugosz
TSa Thomas.Sandlass-at-vts-systems.de |Perl 6| wrote: May I pose three more questions? 1. I guess that even using $!A::bar in methods of B is an access violation, right? I.e. A needs to trust B for that to be allowed. Correct. 2. The object has to carry $!A::bar and $!B::bar

Re: Should $.foo attributes without is rw be writable from within the class

2008-09-19 Thread Jon Lang
Daniel Ruoso wrote: Jon Lang wrote: Note that this ought only be true of class inheritance; with role composition, there should only be one $!bar in the class, no matter how many roles define it. er... what does that mean exactly? Unless something has drastically changed since I last

method signature issues

2008-09-19 Thread Chris Davaz
In any-str.pir we need to figure out how to change .sub 'split' :method :multi('String') into .sub 'split' :method :multi(_, 'String') since the former method signature is causing problems for me as I'm trying to implement .sub 'split' :method :multi(_, 'Sub') with an additional optional