On Mar 18, 2009, at 5:26 PM, fREW Schmidt wrote:
s1n and I decided that we would start Dallas.p6m as we are close to
each
other geographically speaking. We are meeting tomorrow (Thursday,
March 19,
7:00PM) at a coffee shop with free wifi. The address is 985 W
Bethany Dr
Allen, TX 75013.
On Feb 23, 2009, at 3:56 PM, mark.a.big...@comcast.net wrote:
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David Wheeler wrote:
On Jul 12, 2006, at 03:41, Gabor Szabo wrote:
perl -MModule -e'print $Module::VERSION'
I have this alias set up:
function pv () { perl -M$1 -le print $1-VERSION; }
I think that calling -VERSION is more correct.
I am sure this discussion has happened in the past
On Jun 1, 2006, at 11:37 AM, Josh Wilmes wrote:
At 12:00 on 06/01/2006 BST, David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Basic I/O is talking to filehandles and nyetwork sockets. Anything
above the UDP / TCP level should not, IMO, be included.
I agree.
I'd respectfully disagree. Just
On Wed, November 2, 2005 11:48 am, Christopher H. Laco wrote:
Ovid wrote:
Hi all,
I've noticed that http://search.cpan.org/~ovid/HOP-Parser-0.01/,
amongst other modules, has no CPAN test results appearing even though
CPAN tester reports are coming in. I've seen this for other modules,
too.
On Thu, July 14, 2005 10:47 am, Autrijus Tang said:
If this were a straw poll, I'd say...
1. Meaning of $_
.method should mean $_.method always. Making it into a runtime
error is extremely awkward; a compile-time error with detailed
explanataion is acceptable but suboptimal.
On May 4, 2005, at 8:13 AM, Uri Guttman wrote:
AS Why? Because IO::Socket.new takes parameters that are built out
of its
AS entire inheritance tree, so a change to IO::Handle might
radically
AS modify the signature of the constructor.
makes sense. we should look at the p5 IO:: tree and
On Apr 27, 2005, at 6:39 AM, Aaron Sherman wrote:
On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 10:48, Luke Palmer wrote:
Aaron Sherman writes:
The reasons I don't use English in P5:
* Variable access is slower
Hmm, looks to me like $INPUT_RECORD_SEPARATOR is faster. (Actually
they're the same: on each run a
On 17 Sep 2004, at 15:48, Ricardo SIGNES wrote:
* David Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-09-17T00:51:22]
So, what's to be lost by having the inc directories default to the
contents of @INC when you load Devel::Cover rather than at install
time?
Presumably the problem is that by runtime, lib and
On 24 Aug 2004, at 22:14, Aaron Sherman wrote:
You don't HAVE to use auto-topicalization. You CAN always write it
long-hand if you find that confusing:
for @words - $word {
given ($chars($word) 70) - $toolong {
say abbreviate($word) ?? $word;
On 24 Jun 2004, at 21:49, Piers Cawley wrote:
Dan Sugalski wrote:
it's not exactly exciting watching two people hit return three times
in front of a roomful of people.
Although watching two people hit each other in the face with custard
pies three times in front of a roomful of people may be a lot
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 12:30, Leon Brocard wrote:
http://dellah.org/testers/MIME-Lite-HTML gets the version sorting
wrong but right. How do you sort, Iain?
http://testers.cpan.org/search?request=distdist=MIME-Lite-HTML
keeps on timing out, so I don't know what it does. Graham?
I just added
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 19:06, Leon Brocard wrote:
Graham Barr sent the following bits through the ether:
Now maybe I should ignore the version numbers and instead sort using
the dates that the module was uploaded to CPAN, but that's external
information, bah.
That is what search
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 17:20, Leon Brocard wrote:
Graham Barr sent the following bits through the ether:
http://testers.cpan.org/search?request=distdist=MIME-Lite-HTML
keeps on timing out, so I don't know what it does. Graham?
I just added a new index to the database. It should
On Monday, Aug 4, 2003, at 08:15 US/Pacific, Leon Brocard wrote:
alian sent the following bits through the ether:
But there is a serious problem with CPAN test database. There is like
100 000 reports in the CPAN db.
This is not a big problem. 100_000 reports is a very small database
and I still
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 07:24:04PM -0400, Benjamin Goldberg wrote:
IIRC, DoD normally happens something vaguely like this:
for my $p (@all_pmcs) {
clear_is_live_flag($p);
}
our $traverse;
sub set_is_live_flag($p) {
if( !test_is_live_flag($p) and
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 11:05:34AM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
Graham Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I ask becasue what happens if an object actually wants
to use its contents during its DESTROY ?
For example Net::POP3::DESTROY will send a reset command to its
server if the user did
On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 10:34:14AM -0600, Luke Palmer wrote:
What it seems you're wanting is it to be in the core. And I'm saying
that's irrelavent. There are thousands of great ideas out there, and
they can't all fit into Perl's core. That's why there's thousands of
modules on CPAN.
Have
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 02:08:02PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 1:52 PM -0500 3/9/03, Uri Guttman wrote:
DS == Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DS * Objects have properties you can fetch and store by name
DS * Objects have methods you can call
DS * Objects have
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 04:34:42PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote:
If A isa B, we certainly wouldn't want to call A's AUTOLOAD on a
method before we looked to see if B had a concrete instance of that
method.
Right. The best you could probably do is note where you found the first AUTOLOAD
so that
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 09:39:14AM -0800, Dan Sugalski wrote:
It's a little more confusing that that. When I said only one foo
method, it was in contrast to attributes, where an attribute of a
particular name may appear in an object multiple times--since
attributes are class-private, each
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 06:21:43PM +, Simon Cozens wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mr. Nobody) writes:
I have to wonder how many people actually like this syntax, and how many only
say they do because it's Damian Conway who proposed it. And map/grep aren't
specialized syntax, you could do the
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 09:33:14AM -0500, Miko O'Sullivan wrote:
For example, suppose I want to separate a list of people into people who
have never donated money and those who have. Assuming that each person
object has a donations property which is an array reference, I would want
to
On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 11:12:15PM -0800, Dave Storrs wrote:
Hmm, interesting. Just as an aside, this gives me an idea: would it be
feasible to allow the base to be specified as an expression instead of
a constant? (I'm pretty sure it would be useful.) For example:
4294967296:1.2.3.4 #
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 12:16:34PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yesterday Aaron Crane wrote:
Jonathan Scott Duff writes:
@a `+ @b
In my experience, many people actually don't get the backtick
character at all.
Yes. I think that might be a good reason _for_ using backtick
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 05:16:48PM -0800, Michael Lazzaro wrote:
unary (prefix) operators:
\ - reference to
* - list flattening
? - force to bool context
! - force to bool context, negate
not - force to bool context, negate
+ - force to numeric
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 01:25:44PM -0800, Austin Hastings wrote:
--- Larry Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do these French quotes come through?
@a «+» @b
Odd, I see them in this message. But In the message from Larry I see ?'s
Graham.
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 01:57:00PM -0800, Dave Storrs wrote:
*shrug* You may not like the aesthetics, but my point still
stands: is rw is too long for something we're going to do fairly often.
I am not so sure. If I look back through a lot of my code, there are more cases
where I use
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 03:30:54PM -0600, Jonathan Scott Duff wrote:
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 01:19:05PM -0800, Michael Lazzaro wrote:
On Monday, October 28, 2002, at 01:09 PM, Larry Wall wrote:
No. unless reads well in English. How do your read $a ! $b ! $c?
nor? Maybe it's $a
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 05:54:08PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
It looks like the DotGNU weekly IRC meeting will be discussing
Parrot. Could be interesting:
http://www.dotgnu.org/pipermail/developers/2002-October/008345.html
The author of that mail needs to learn the difference between GMT and
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 05:50:55PM -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Allison Randal wrote:
: use Acme::N-1_0; # or whatever the format of the name is
I don't see why it couldn't just be:
use Acme::1.0;
I agree thats better. But why not separate the version more by
On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 10:15:20AM +0200, Dan Sugalski wrote:
I've been thinking that we do need to have an extra flag to note
whether a key element should be taken as an array or hash lookup
element. The integer 1 isn't quite enough, since someone may have
done a %foo{1} and we only have
On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 01:52:18PM +, Damian Conway wrote:
I'd suggest that redundancy in syntax is often a good thing and
that there's nothing actually wrong with:
my Date $date = Date.new('June 25, 2002');
I would say it is not always redundant to specify the type on both
sides
On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 07:17:22AM -0700, Michael G Schwern wrote:
On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 02:11:29PM +, Daniel Grunblatt wrote:
Apart from that, does anyone know why test doesn't run on OpenBSD?
I get:
ar: illegal option -- s
Gnu-ism? What ar does OpenBSD use?
Obviously and
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 03:42:19PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 5:28 PM +0200 8/1/02, Aldo Calpini wrote:
fetching an element out of bound changes the
length of the array. but should this really happen?
why does perlarray.pmc act like this:
Because that's the way Perl's arrays work. Joys
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 02:11:27PM -0700, Stephen Rawls wrote:
It should pass them on to the PMC directly, which
should then handle them properly.
So, if ix -SELF-cache.int_val then the code tries
to use a negative value to access the array element in
the C code. This is obviously
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 05:42:12PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 10:24 PM +0100 8/1/02, Graham Barr wrote:
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 02:11:27PM -0700, Stephen Rawls wrote:
It should pass them on to the PMC directly, which
should then handle them properly.
So, if ix -SELF
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 06:02:14PM -0400, Miko O'Sullivan wrote:
This is a small collection of ideas for the Perl6 language. Think of this
posting as a light and refreshing summer fruit salad, composed of three
ideas to while away the time during this August lull in perl6-language.
On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 11:08:46AM -0700, Sean O'Rourke wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Dan Sugalski wrote:
I need to get Larry to nail some things down. On the one hand, he's
said that chained comparisons evaluate their parameters just once.
That argues for moving the values to N or S
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 11:14:15AM +0100, Sam Vilain wrote:
Sean O'Rourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
languages/perl6/README sort of hides it, but it does say that If you have
Perl = 5.005_03, $a += 3 may fail to parse. I guess we can upgrade
that to if you have 5.6, you lose.
I notice
On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 12:12:41PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 5:38 PM +0200 5/10/02, Peter Gibbs wrote:
The result is that the last header of a COWed string will still believe that
the buffer is shared until a GC collection run occurs, and therefore could
result in buffers being copied
I have been following this thread, but I would just like to inject a summary
of the various related UPPERCASE blocks
PREExecutes on block entry.
Loop variables are in a known state
POST Executes on block exit.
Loop variables are in a known state
NEXT Executes on
On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 12:27:08PM -0500, Allison Randal wrote:
On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 03:15:48PM +0100, Graham Barr wrote:
LAST Executes on implicit loop exit or call to last()
Loop variables may be unknown
Not exactly unknown. It's just that, in a few cases, their values may
On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 12:17:52PM -0700, David Wheeler wrote:
On 5/1/02 12:11 PM, Brent Dax [EMAIL PROTECTED] claimed:
It's far too late to make it into 5.8, but it looks like it'll be in
5.10 when that comes out (in a year or two).
I figured. Too bad. ;-) A year or two is long time to
On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 01:53:24PM -0700, Brent Dax wrote:
Graham Barr:
# On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 12:17:52PM -0700, David Wheeler wrote:
# On 5/1/02 12:11 PM, Brent Dax [EMAIL PROTECTED] claimed:
#
# It's far too late to make it into 5.8, but it looks like
# it'll be in
# 5.10
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 01:09:43PM -0700, David Wheeler wrote:
Anyone know what the chances are that some enterprising C hacker
can/will/did get the // and //= operator into Perl 5.8? Seems like it
wouldn't be a huge deal to add, and I'd love to have it sooner rather than
later.
It is not
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 09:26:45AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
Trey Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think I've missed something, even after poring over the archives for
some hours looking for the answer. How does one write defaulting
subroutines a la builtins like print() and chomp()?
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:35:22PM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote:
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 10:30:25AM -0700, Glenn Linderman wrote:
method m1
{
m2; # calls method m2 in the same class
Yes, but does it call it as an instance method on the current invocant
or as a class method with no
On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 02:10:20PM +, Dave Mitchell wrote:
2. If so, how do we distinguish between two PMCs, both of whose
vtable pointers currently point to the 'Dog' vtable, but one of whom has
been delared as type Dog and so should never have it's vatble pointer
updated, and the other
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 08:54:21AM -0800, Brent Dax wrote:
Peter Haworth:
# On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:45:58 +, Graham Barr wrote:
# On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 09:32:49AM -0800, Brent Dax wrote:
# # rx_setprops P0, i, 2
# # branch $start0
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 11:18:58AM -0800, Hong Zhang wrote:
Because parts of an rx can be case-insensitive while other parts
are case-sensitive, we will probably need two sorts of ops anyway
(or a way to tell the op to be case-insensitive). And you will
only be able to do the case
On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 09:32:49AM -0800, Brent Dax wrote:
# rx_setprops P0, i, 2
# branch $start0
# $advance:
# rx_advance P0, $fail
# $start0:
# rx_literal P0, a, $advance
#
# First, we set the rx engine to
On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 02:25:35PM -0800, Glenn Linderman wrote:
I think you just said the same thing I did. To be more explicit, using
the terminology you seem to want to use, I'll point out that I was only
talking about the case of an inherited method, not a _replacement_
method. In other
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 12:50:38PM -0800, Larry Wall wrote:
: What's the chance that it could be considered so?
In most other languages, you wouldn't even have the opportunity to put
a declaration into the conditional. You'd have to say something like:
my $line = $in;
if $line
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 03:58:49PM -0500, Michael G Schwern wrote:
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 03:43:07PM -0500, Damian Conway wrote:
Casey wrote:
So you're suggesting that we fake lexical scoping? That sounds more
icky than sticking to true lexical scoping. A block dictates scope,
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 01:01:09PM -0800, Larry Wall wrote:
Graham Barr writes:
: But are we not at risk of introducing another form of
:
: my $x if 0;
:
: with
:
: if my $one = ONE {
: ...
: }
: elsif my $two = TWO {
: }
:
: if ($two
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 01:38:39PM -0800, Larry Wall wrote:
Graham Barr writes:
: On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 01:01:09PM -0800, Larry Wall wrote:
: Graham Barr writes:
: : But are we not at risk of introducing another form of
: :
: : my $x if 0;
: :
: : with
: :
: : if my
On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 05:29:39AM -0800, Damian Conway wrote:
On Saturday 19 January 2002 22:05, Brent Dax wrote:
Is this list of special blocks complete and correct?
Close and close. As of two days ago, Larry's thinking was:
BEGIN Executes at the beginning of
I belive IBM use inversion lists in thier ICU library for sets of
unicode characters.
Graham.
On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 07:08:25PM +0200, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
Honour where honour is due: I've got some questions about inversion
lists. Where I saw them mentioned by that name were some drafts
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 06:38:02PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote:
# Attributes are done as a hash of hashes. Each interpreter has a
# pointer to an attribute hash, whose keys are the attribute names. The
# values will be hash pointers. Those hashes will each have a key which
# is a PMC pointer
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 06:39:02AM +1100, Damian Conway wrote:
In the following code fragment, what context is foo() in?
@ary[0] = foo()
Scalar context. @ary[0] is a single element of @ary.
To call foo() in list context use any of the following:
(@ary[0]) =
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 09:06:14AM -0400, Aaron Sherman wrote:
On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 02:53:19PM +0200, Nadim Khemir wrote:
Don't we already have that in Perl 5?
if ( /\G\s+/gc ) {# whitespaces }
elsif ( /\G[*/+-]/gc ) { # operator }
elsif ( /\G\d+/gc ) {
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 03:03:04PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 01:58 PM 9/4/2001 -0500, Garrett Goebel wrote:
From: Dan Sugalski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
At 10:32 AM 9/4/2001 +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
Can you see any use of a sub knowing it was called via a method call?
So that
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 09:21:35AM -0400, Eric Roode wrote:
John Porter wrote:
Dave Mitchell wrote:
ie by default lexicals are only in scope in their own sub, not within
nested subs - and you have to explicitly 'import' them to use them.
No. People who write closures know what they're
On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 04:38:43PM -0700, Nathan Wiger wrote:
And allow flexible calling styles. For example, you might say:
# import args() for argument validation
use Module::Interface qw/args/;
sub my_func (@) {
my %args = args({ positional = [qw/name email phone/] },
On Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 07:20:11PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 02:16:49PM -0500, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
One silliness is that the implementation style of the module
seems to creep to the naming:
(1) Foo vs Foo_XS
Well then, how do you name it? For
On Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 03:51:22PM -0400, Kirrily Robert wrote:
[ moving to perl6-stdlib only; -meta doesn't need this. ]
Jarkko wrote:
Sys:: should be declared redundant and silly. Sys::Syslog simply
hurts my teeth.
Text:: is another silliness, though from for slightly different
On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 08:59:59AM -0400, John Porter wrote:
Michael G Schwern wrote:
Second, and perhaps more importantly, we can do this perfectly well
with a module. No hacks, no tricks, no filters.
Class::Object uses the mini-class technique (ie. auto-generated
classes
Sorry,
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 03:52:34PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 08:36 PM 7/2/2001 +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 03:00:54PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
what about starting offset? that is used now to shorten a string from
the left side.
D'oh! In. Out goes the
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 04:12:31PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 09:07 PM 7/2/2001 +0100, Graham Barr wrote:
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 03:52:34PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 08:36 PM 7/2/2001 +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 03:00:54PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote
On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 01:41:28PM -0700, Nathan Wiger wrote:
* Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06/14/2001 15:16]:
OK, I've been teasing people about this for weeks, and it's time to stop.
This is the current state of the Perl 6 emulator; it applies most things
that Damian talked about
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 10:39:51PM -0500, David L. Nicol wrote:
Hopefully, we'll get a with operator and everything:
with %database.$accountnumber {
.interestearned += $interestrate * .balance
}
anything short of that, in my opinion, is merely trading old
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 01:34:49AM -0700, Chris Hostetter wrote:
For the record, bwarnock pointed out to me that damian allready proposed
this behavior in RFC 25...
http://dev.perl.org/rfc/25.html
That RFC doesn't suggest having the comparison operators set properties
on their
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 01:42:53PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 01:31:36PM +0100, Graham Barr wrote:
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 01:34:49AM -0700, Chris Hostetter wrote:
$input = 4;
$bool = $input 22;# $bool = 1 is valueR(22)
print ok! if $bool == 1
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 08:15:46AM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 07:21:29PM -0500, David L. Nicol wrote:
Damian Conway wrote:
$ref.{a}can be $ref{a}
which can also be
$ref.a
Dereferencing a hashref is the same as accessing a property?
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 06:37:26AM +1000, Damian Conway wrote:
So, to match $foo's colour against $bar, I'd say
$bar =~ /$foo.colour/;
No, you need the sub call parens as well:
$bar =~ /$foo.colour()/;
Hm, I thought Larry said you would need to use $() to
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 07:43:55AM +1000, Damian Conway wrote:
So, to match $foo's colour against $bar, I'd say
$bar =~ /$foo.colour/;
No, you need the sub call parens as well:
$bar =~ /$foo.colour()/;
Hm, I
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 07:59:31AM +1000, Damian Conway wrote:
But with the above you still have abiguity, for example what does this do
$bar =~ /$foo.colour($xyz)/;
Looks like a method call with parens, so *is* a method call with parens.
I may be
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 01:17:45AM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 12:24:50AM +0100, Graham Barr wrote:
Can someone post a few ? I am open to what are the pros/cons
but right now my mind is thinking Whats the benefit of making
$a=(1,2,3); be the same as $a=[1,2,3
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 03:31:24PM -0500, David L. Nicol wrote:
Graham Barr wrote:
I think there are a lot of benefits to the re engine not to be
separate from the core perl ops.
So does it start with a split(//,$bound_thing) or does it use
substr(...) with explicit offsets?
Eh
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 04:23:58PM +0200, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
On Wed 30 May 2001 16:12, Dave Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
KR style for indenting control constructs: ie the closing C} should
line up with the opening Cif etc.
=item *
When a conditional spans
On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 02:24:13PM -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote:
I'd like to see activity on the topics behind:
* perl6-stdlib
* perl6-build
Dan, Graham--should these lists persist in their current form?
Well I thonk that there should eventually be a perl6-stdlib, but
I think more needs
On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 04:48:59PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
1) The indentation should be all tabs or all spaces. No mix, it's a pain.
(As has been already pointed out) 4 column indent per level, all spaces.
Can you explain why you think it is a pain. I would say converting between
all tabs
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 12:29:33PM +1000, Damian Conway wrote:
if so, then wouldn't it be safer to put properties inside a special object
associated with each object (the 'traits' object) so there would be little
namespace collision?
We actually want the possibility of that kind
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 01:24:29PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 12:46:35AM -0500, Jonathan Scott Duff wrote:
my $a is true = 0; # variable property
my $a = 0 is true; # variable property
my ($a) = 0 is true;# value
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 06:19:35PM -0400, Uri Guttman wrote:
DC == Damian Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DC return undef Because($borked);
hmm, that is poor code as returning a real undef will break in a list
context.
I always balk when I see someone say that. This is
On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 06:41:29PM +1000, Damian Conway wrote:
Graham wrote:
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 10:36:59PM -0400, John Siracusa wrote:
print keys $foo.prop; # prints NumberHeard
print values $foo.prop; # prints loneliestever
This is an
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 10:36:59PM -0400, John Siracusa wrote:
print keys $foo.prop; # prints NumberHeard
print values $foo.prop; # prints loneliestever
This is an example of one of my concerns about namespace overlap
with methods. What would happen if there was a method
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 03:01:38PM +1000, Damian Conway wrote:
Also, what's the difference between a 'property' and an
'attribute', ie, are:
$fh is true;
and
$fh.true(1);
synonyms?
No. The former means:
Set the true
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 08:31:21AM -0500, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 06:22:10AM -0700, Austin Hastings wrote:
--- Damian Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's probably just a matter of coding what you actually mean.
In Perl 5 and 6 your version means if $fh
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 12:32:37PM -0500, Me wrote:
an ordered hash is common
Arrays too.
not wise ... to alter features just for beginners.
Agreed.
(PS 11 people isn't a statistic, its a night at the pub)
Your round...
The extra complexity of a separate
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:56:01PM -0500, Me wrote:
Hm, OK. What does this access and using what method ?
$foo = '1.2';
@bar[$foo];
This is an argument against conflating @ and %.
No it is not.
It has nothing to do with using [] instead of {}.
Yes it does. I was asking if the
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:41:24PM -0400, John Porter wrote:
Damian Conway wrote [and John Porter reformats]:
@bar[$foo]; # Access element int($foo) of array @bar
%bar{$foo}; # Access entry $foo of hash %bar
@bar{$foo}; # Syntax error
%bar[$foo]; # Syntax error
And why is that
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:58:31PM -0400, John Porter wrote:
Graham Barr wrote:
As I said in another mail, consider
$bar[$foo];
$bar{$foo};
But if @bar is known to be one kind of array or
the other, where is the ambiguosity that that is
meant to avoid?
I did not say
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 02:51:08PM -0500, Me wrote:
survey ? I never saw any survey,
It was an informal finger-in-the-wind thing I sent to
a perl beginners list. Nothing special, just a quick
survey.
http://www.self-reference.com/cgi-bin/perl6plurals.pl
As someone else pointed out (I
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:23:56PM -0400, Buddha Buck wrote:
At 08:10 PM 05-14-2001 +0100, Graham Barr wrote:
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:56:01PM -0500, Me wrote:
Hm, OK. What does this access and using what method ?
$foo = '1.2';
@bar[$foo];
This is an argument against
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 07:40:04PM -0500, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
or some such, unless the purpose of the local(*foo) could be determined
by unscrupulous means. Similarly, glob aliases *foo = *bar would
need special treatment.
By far most of my use of typeglobs is making aliases, and
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 02:04:40PM -0400, John Porter wrote:
Simon Cozens wrote:
A scalar's a thing.
Just as the index into a multiplicity is a thing.
Yes, but as Larry pointed out. Knowing if the index is to be treated
as a number or a string has some advantages for optimization
Graham.
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 05:35:53PM -0400, John Porter wrote:
Edward Peschko wrote:
If
%a = @b;
does
%c = map{ ($_ = undef ) } @a;
Yep... particularly considering something neat like
keys(%a) = @b;
And what is wrong with
@a{@b} = ();
which I use all the time. But I
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 07:56:39PM -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
Nathan Wiger writes:
: : This one. I see a filehandle in *boolean* context meaning read to $_,
: : just like the current while (FOO) magic we all know and occasionally
: : love. I'd expect $FOO.readln (or something less Pascalish)
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