Re: This week's summary

2006-01-03 Thread Ilmari Vacklin
ti, 2006-01-03 kello 13:57 +, The Perl 6 Summarizer kirjoitti: Planet Perl Six is a handy news aggregator of several Perl 6 related sources. http://planet6.perl.org/ I believe that is actually http://planetsix.perl.org Thanks for the great summary! -- wolverian [EMAIL

Re: This week's summary

2005-11-30 Thread Matt Fowles
Piers~ On 11/30/05, The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I hopped into a taxi (and I use the word hopped advisedly) and repaired straightway to King's Cross and thence home to Gateshead, where my discomfort was somewhat ameliorated by the distraction of preparing

Re: This week's summary

2005-11-15 Thread Roger Browne
On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 16:24 +, The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: ...Roger Browne (whose name I keep wanting to use as a Clerihew)... Thanks for the summaries, Piers! Here's a Clerihew for you: Roger Browne took his Parrot to town Wearing an upside-down Amber crown :) How to

Re: This week's summary = Perl 6 perlplexities

2005-11-15 Thread Michele Dondi
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: Perl 6 perlplexities Michele Dondi worries that the increase in complexity of some aspects of Perl 6 is much bigger than the increase in functionality that the complexity buys us. In particular Michele is concerned that the Perl 6

Re: This week's summary

2005-11-15 Thread Leopold Toetsch
On Nov 15, 2005, at 17:24, The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: The Perl 6 Summary for the fortnight ending 2005-11-13 string_bitwise_* Leo, it seems to boil down to a choice between throwing an exception or simply mashing everything together and marking the 'resulting bit mess'

Re: This week's summary

2005-11-05 Thread Michele Dondi
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: Slightly tangentially to this, Dan Sugalski blogged a couple of weeks ago about his successes and failures with Parrot. The comments are worth reading -- there's a fair few more or less well founded complaints about the way the Perl 6

Re: This week's summary

2005-11-04 Thread Juerd
The Perl 6 Summarizer skribis 2005-11-04 14:34 (+): $_ defaulting for mutating ops Probably I have not been clear enough about that I no longer think this is a good idea. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html

RE: This week's summary

2005-11-04 Thread Garrett Goebel
Rejigging NCI to use the ffcall library Nick Glencross wondered about rejigging NCI, the parrot Native Call Interface to use the ffcall library. In fact he went so far as to offer up a proof of concept implementation. Apparently the ffcall approach makes it much easier to write callbacks

Re: This week's summary

2005-10-11 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 11:39:25PM +0100, The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: The Perl 6 Summary for the week ending 2005-10-09 Hello, and welcome to the first Perl 6 Summary to be published on my website rather than its former home at http://www.perl.com/ This week in perl6-compiler PGE

Re: This week's summary

2005-09-27 Thread Piers Cawley
TSa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: HaloO, The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: Meanwhile, in perl6-language \(...) Oh look, a thread in p6l that's still going more than a fortnight later. How unusual. Is a long running thread considered a bad thing on this list? Nah, it's just hard to

Re: This week's summary

2005-09-26 Thread Yuval Kogman
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 18:12:23 +0100, The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: Allomopherencing Not satisfied with inventing Exceptuations, Yuval invented Allomopherencing as well. Just don't ask me what it means because I don't know. It was just a bad joke on Exceptuation's expense ;-)

Re: This week's summary

2004-09-23 Thread Michele Dondi
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: Writing pack, or something like it Michele Dondi wondered how to write pack-like functions in Perl 6, where the first argument is a string which specifies the signature of the rest of the function call. The proposal stumped me, but maybe

Re: This week's summary

2004-09-23 Thread Buddha Buck
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:11:02 +0100, The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Perl 6 Summary for the week ending 2004-09-17 Another week, another summary, and I'm running late. So: This week in perl6-compiler Bootstrapping the grammar Uri Guttman had some thoughts on

Re: This week's summary

2004-09-23 Thread Peter Sinnott
On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 09:12:32AM -0400, Buddha Buck wrote: On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:11:02 +0100, The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Perl 6 Summary for the week ending 2004-09-17 Another week, another summary, and I'm running late. So: This week in perl6-compiler

Re: This week's summary

2004-09-13 Thread Gregory Keeney
The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: Namespaces (Am I the only person who wants to repeat Namespaces! with the same intonation used for 'Monorail!' in the Simpsons?) Not any more...

Re: This week's summary

2004-08-09 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 1:26 PM +0100 8/9/04, The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: Spilling problems The thing about writing naive compilers for naive languages is you end up with rather large Parrot subroutines. Dan's work project is generating ~6000 line subs. That was only for a program triggering degenerate

Re: This week's summary

2004-08-02 Thread Alberto Manuel Brandão Simões
ICU outdated Joshua Gatcomb noted that the ICU that comes with Parrot is, not to put too fine a point on it, old and buggy. The ICU developers have suggested that Parrot move to version 3.0. Josh proposed various ways of doing this. Leo wants ICU out of the Parrot CVS, but Dan's

Re: This week's summary

2004-07-29 Thread Piers Cawley
Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Piers Cawley wrote: Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Care to explain what those are, O great math teacher? What's a math teacher? It's the right^H^H^H^H^HAmerican way to say maths teacher. You mean American and 'right' are

RE: This week's summary

2004-07-29 Thread Butler, Gerald
PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: This week's summary Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Piers Cawley wrote: Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Care to explain what those are, O great math teacher? What's a math teacher? It's the right^H^H^H^H^HAmerican way

RE: This week's summary

2004-07-29 Thread Simon Glover
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Butler, Gerald wrote: sarcasm Of course American and Right are synonymous! Just ask OUR WONDERFUL GOD (I mean President) GEORGE W. BUSH. He'll tell ya' /sarcasm OK, gentlemen, this is both way off topic and starting to head into flame war territory, so I suggest that

Re: This week's summary

2004-07-28 Thread Piers Cawley
Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: The infinite thread Pushing onto lazy lists continued to exercise the p6l crowd (or at least, a subset of it). Larry said that if someone wanted to hack surreal numbers into Perl 6.1 then that would

Re: This week's summary

2004-07-28 Thread Mark J. Reed
On 2004-07-28 at 20:55:28, Piers Cawley wrote: What's a math teacher? Oh, come now. You may refuse to *use* the Leftpondian short form, but pretending not to *recognize* it is a bit much. :) -- Mark REED| CNN Internet Technology 1 CNN Center Rm SW0831G | [EMAIL

Re: This week's summary

2004-07-28 Thread Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon
Piers Cawley wrote: Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Care to explain what those are, O great math teacher? What's a math teacher? It's the right^H^H^H^H^HAmerican way to say maths teacher. -- Brent Dax Royal-Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perl and Parrot hacker Oceania has always been

Re: This week's summary

2004-07-27 Thread Michele Dondi
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon wrote: The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: The infinite thread Pushing onto lazy lists continued to exercise the p6l crowd (or at least, a subset of it). Larry said that if someone wanted to hack surreal numbers into Perl 6.1 then that

Re: This week's summary

2004-07-26 Thread Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon
The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: The infinite thread Pushing onto lazy lists continued to exercise the p6l crowd (or at least, a subset of it). Larry said that if someone wanted to hack surreal numbers into Perl 6.1 then that would be cool. Care to explain what those are, O great math

Re: This week's summary

2004-07-26 Thread Stéphane Payrard
On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 10:29:15AM -0700, Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon wrote: The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: The infinite thread Pushing onto lazy lists continued to exercise the p6l crowd (or at least, a subset of it). Larry said that if someone wanted to hack surreal numbers into

Re: This week's summary

2004-07-26 Thread Kurt Starsinic
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:29:15 -0700, Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: The infinite thread Pushing onto lazy lists continued to exercise the p6l crowd (or at least, a subset of it). Larry said that if someone wanted to hack surreal

Re: This week's summary

2004-07-26 Thread Jonadab the Unsightly One
Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [surreal numbers] Care to explain what those are, O great math teacher? Surreal Number theory was an attempt in the latter half of the twentieth century to unify several existing sets of numbers (including the complex numbers, generalized

Re: This week's summary

2004-07-20 Thread Austin Hastings
--- The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, so the interview was on Tuesday 13th of July. It went well; I'm going to be a maths teacher. As usual, we begin with maths-geometry: In Mathematics last week, one Pythagoras suggested there might be a relationship between the sides of

Re: This week's summary

2004-07-20 Thread Juerd
The Perl 6 Summarizer skribis 2004-07-20 14:46 (+0100): Another subthread discussed interpolation in strings. Larry's changed his mind so that $file.ext is now interpreted as $object.method. You need to do ${file}.ext or $( $file ).ext. Or maybe $«file».ext by analogy with

Re: This week's summary

2004-07-20 Thread Alexey Trofimenko
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:15:49 +0200, Juerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Perl 6 Summarizer skribis 2004-07-20 14:46 (+0100): Another subthread discussed interpolation in strings. Larry'schanged his mind so that $file.ext is now interpreted as $object.method. You need to do ${file}.ext

Re: This week's summary

2004-07-08 Thread Piers Cawley
Jonadab the Unsightly One [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Different OO models Jonadab the Unsightly One had wondered about having objects inheriting behaviour from objects rather than classes in Perl 6. Urgle. I've completely failed to

Re: This week's summary

2004-07-08 Thread Dan Sugalski
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Piers Cawley wrote: Jonadab the Unsightly One [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Different OO models Jonadab the Unsightly One had wondered about having objects inheriting behaviour from objects rather than classes

Re: This week's summary

2004-07-07 Thread Jonadab the Unsightly One
The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Different OO models Jonadab the Unsightly One had wondered about having objects inheriting behaviour from objects rather than classes in Perl 6. Urgle. I've completely failed to explain myself so as to be understood. That wasn't at

Re: This week's Summary

2004-07-01 Thread Leopold Toetsch
The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Congratulations Ion, don't forget to send in a patch to the CREDITS file. $ grep -1 Ion CREDITS N: Ion Alexandru Morega D: string.pmc Thanks again for your summary, leo

Re: This week's summary

2004-05-26 Thread a. c. yardley
Please take me off your mailing list. I don't know how you got my address, but I have no idea what you are talking about. Mrs. Yardley address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL

Re: This week's Summary

2004-04-28 Thread Leopold Toetsch
The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Passing arrays of structs to NCI subs Is working in the meantime. Separating allocation and initialization of objects Last week, Leo posted the latest object benchmarks, and things were fast. But there was one test where Python was

Re: This week's Summary

2004-04-08 Thread Piers Cawley
Leopold Toetsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subroutine calls Leo announced that he's added a pmc_const opcode to parrot. The idea being that, [ ... ] you would instead fetch a preexisting Subroutine PMC from the PMC constant

Re: This week's Summary

2004-04-07 Thread Leopold Toetsch
The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subroutine calls Leo announced that he's added a pmc_const opcode to parrot. The idea being that, [ ... ] you would instead fetch a preexisting Subroutine PMC from the PMC constant pool. Not quite. I've implemented it here

Re: This week's summary

2004-03-09 Thread Jerome Quelin
The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: Parrotbug reaches 0.0.1 Jerome Quelin responded to Dan's otherwise ignored request for a parrot equivalent of perlbug when he offered an implementation of parrotbug for everyone's perusal, but didn't go so far to add it to the distribution. I don't think it's

Re: This week's summary

2004-03-08 Thread Leopold Toetsch
The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good news! Bad news! Good news! Dan says the infrastructure is in place to do delegated method calls for vtable functions with objects. Bad news! It doesn't actually work That's solved already. You can override e.g. inc Px w/o

Re: This week's summary

2004-03-08 Thread Brent \Dax\ Royal-Gordon
Leopold Toetsch wrote: The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It turned out to be a simple matter of unimplemented functions, which he and Leo rapidly implemented. s/he and Leo/he/ I was just the one hitting Ctrl-C Ctrl-V. (Actually, I was using the mouse, since I was working

Re: This week's summary

2004-03-02 Thread Leopold Toetsch
The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Perl 6 Summary for the week ending 20040229 Native PBC issues It turns out that, just at the moment, Parrot bytecode isn't actually platform independent. This will, of course, get fixed, but it's not Leo's top priority at

Re: This week's summary

2004-02-10 Thread Michael Scott
On 10 Feb 2004, at 14:09, The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: I wonder how long it'll be before someone reimplements them in in PIR... or Perl6 perchance.

Re: This week's summary

2004-02-10 Thread Simon Cozens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Scott) writes: On 10 Feb 2004, at 14:09, The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: I wonder how long it'll be before someone reimplements them in in PIR... or Perl6 perchance. Well, Perl6::Rules should be coming out soon, so that should help. -- The problem with

Re: This week's summary

2004-02-02 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 12:03 AM +0100 1/29/04, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: At 10:40 +0100 1/28/04, Leopold Toetsch wrote: The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: The costs of sharing Leo Töposted a test program and some results for timing the difference between using shared and unshared PMCs. ... Hopefully the

Re: This week's summary

2004-01-29 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Elizabeth Mattijsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:40 +0100 1/28/04, Leopold Toetsch wrote: $ time parrot shared_ref.pasm real0m0.375s Ah.. I want a Ponie! ;-) Actually some bits are still missing: - The SharedRef construction code has to ensure that the refered PMC is shared too (~

Re: This week's summary

2004-01-28 Thread Leopold Toetsch
The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: The costs of sharing Leo Töposted a test program and some results for timing the difference between using shared and unshared PMCs. ... Hopefully the benchmark will get checked into examples/benchmarks as suggested by Luke earlier. Done now. $ time

Re: This week's summary

2004-01-28 Thread Elizabeth Mattijsen
At 10:40 +0100 1/28/04, Leopold Toetsch wrote: The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: The costs of sharing Leo Töposted a test program and some results for timing the difference between using shared and unshared PMCs. ... Hopefully the benchmark will get checked into examples/benchmarks as

Re: This week's summary

2004-01-14 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 12:36 PM -0500 1/13/04, Uri Guttman wrote: TP6S == The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: TP6S Congratulations Dan TP6S Melvin Smith offered his congratulations to Dan for the TP6S first commercial use of Parrot. I think I can safely say we TP6S all echo those

Re: This week's summary

2004-01-13 Thread Uri Guttman
TP6S == The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: TP6S Congratulations Dan TP6S Melvin Smith offered his congratulations to Dan for the TP6S first commercial use of Parrot. I think I can safely say we TP6S all echo those congratulations. shouldn't that be

Re: This week's summary

2004-01-07 Thread Piers Cawley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Scott) writes: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Austin Hastings) writes: PS: While I'm somewhat sympathetic to the fact that eu guys are trying to spin up 200 years worth of amendments and supreme court decisions at the same time, it's still a ratf*ck.

Re: This week's summary

2004-01-07 Thread Mik Firestone
Sayeth the Summarizer: Asked for pithy comments, chromatic gave good pith, noting that if he 'had a test case from everyone who asked When'll it be done and code to pass a test case from everyone who said I'd like to help, but I don't know where to start...' then he'd happily check

Re: This week's summary

2004-01-06 Thread Andy Wardley
Uri Guttman wrote: i say we just sell them a license to use the US constitution. Bill Gates wrote: What is it with these Linux guys? i say we just sell them a license to use Windoze. :-) A

RE: This week's summary

2004-01-06 Thread Peter Scott
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Austin Hastings) writes: PS: While I'm somewhat sympathetic to the fact that eu guys are trying to spin up 200 years worth of amendments and supreme court decisions at the same time, it's still a ratf*ck. Eu need to get eurselves a Larry. Just

Re: This week's summary

2004-01-05 Thread John Siracusa
On 1/5/04 1:55 PM, Lars Balker Rasmussen wrote: The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I confess I wouldn't be surprised if, by the end of the year, we haven't seen the full implementation of at least one of the big non-Perl scripting languages on top of Parrot. I'm confused, are

Re: This week's summary

2004-01-05 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Lars Balker Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-01-05 20:42]: I'm confused, are you optimistic or pessimistic in that last sentence? Sounds carefully optimistic to me. At least it certainly doesn't sound pessimistic per se, no? -- Regards, Aristotle If you can't laugh at yourself, you don't

Re: This week's summary

2004-01-05 Thread Piers Cawley
chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 2004-01-05 at 10:55, Lars Balker Rasmussen wrote: The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I confess I wouldn't be surprised if, by the end of the year, we haven't seen the full implementation of at least one of the big

RE: This week's summary

2004-01-05 Thread Austin Hastings
The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I confess I wouldn't be surprised if, by the end of the year, we haven't seen the full implementation of at least one of the big non-Perl scripting languages on top of Parrot. Obviously you've been reading the proposed EU constitution.

RE: This week's summary

2004-01-05 Thread Austin Hastings
-Original Message- From: Uri Guttman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] AH == Austin Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AH PS: While I'm somewhat sympathetic to the fact that eu guys are AH trying to spin up 200 years worth of amendments and supreme court AH decisions at the same

Re: This week's summary

2004-01-05 Thread Chip Salzenberg
According to Austin Hastings: When you consider some of the issues, it's sort of obvious that they're trying *real* hard not to say, Look the Americans solved this problem already. Three words: Second System Effect. -- Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] I

Re: This week's summary

2004-01-05 Thread Uri Guttman
AH == Austin Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: reminds me of the great line: in EU they consider a 100 miles a long distance, in the US we consider 100 years a long time. :) AH That's very good. I'm going to recycle it. Do you know the author? dunno. i have heard it from several

Re: This week's summary

2004-01-05 Thread Melvin Smith
At 07:55 PM 1/5/2004 +0100, Lars Balker Rasmussen wrote: The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: people's salaries will depend on Parrot. I confess I wouldn't be surprised if, by the end of the year, we haven't seen the full implementation of at least one of the big non-Perl

Re: This week's summary

2004-01-05 Thread Piers Cawley
Lars Balker Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Me? I think Perl 6's design 'in the large' will be pretty much done once Apocalypse 12 and its corresponding Exegesis are finished. Of course, the devil is in the details, but I don't

Re: This week's summary

2004-01-05 Thread Piers Cawley
Melvin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 07:55 PM 1/5/2004 +0100, Lars Balker Rasmussen wrote: The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: people's salaries will depend on Parrot. I confess I wouldn't be surprised if, by the end of the year, we haven't seen the full

Re: This week's summary

2004-01-05 Thread Melvin Smith
At 09:30 PM 1/5/2004 +, Piers Cawley wrote: Melvin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 07:55 PM 1/5/2004 +0100, Lars Balker Rasmussen wrote: The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: people's salaries will depend on Parrot. I confess I wouldn't be surprised if, by the end of

Re: This week's summary

2004-01-05 Thread Harry Jackson
The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: Problems with make test Harry Jackson couldn't get his build of parrot to finish running make test. After a certain amount of thrashing about by the team, Dan narrowed it down to issues with the mutant '2.96' version of GCC that some versions of Red

Re: This week's summary

2004-01-05 Thread John Macdonald
On Mon, Jan 05, 2004 at 05:48:04PM -0500, Austin Hastings wrote: From: Uri Guttman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] AH == Austin Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AH PS: While I'm somewhat sympathetic to the fact that eu guys are AH trying to spin up 200 years worth of amendments and

Re: This week's summary

2003-12-26 Thread Michael Joyce
Thank you for a lovely Christmas Present. Michael On Dec 24, 2003, at 2:37 AM, The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: The Perl 6 Summary for the week ending 20031221 Welcome one and all to the penultimate Perl 6 Summary for 2003. The nights are long, the air is cold, freezing fog made the journey

Re: This week's summary

2003-12-25 Thread Piers Cawley
Michael Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you for a lovely Christmas Present. Any time.

Re: This week's summary

2003-12-16 Thread Piers Cawley
The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vocabulary If you're even vaguely interested in the workings of Perl 6's object system, you need to read the referenced post. Luke Palmer, worrying about people using Object related vocabulary in subtly inconsistent ways,

Re: This week's summary

2003-12-16 Thread Luke Palmer
Piers Cawley writes: The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vocabulary If you're even vaguely interested in the workings of Perl 6's object system, you need to read the referenced post. Luke Palmer, worrying about people using Object related vocabulary in

Re: This week's summary

2003-12-16 Thread Piers Cawley
Luke Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Piers Cawley writes: The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://groups.google.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] This should, of course, read: http://groups.google.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Or even: http://groups.google.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] We

Re: This week's summary

2003-12-10 Thread Leopold Toetsch
The Perl 6 Summarizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PMC Compiler 2nd edition ... Melvin wondered if the time had come to replace the existing ops2c and pmc2c with the newer versions. Leo thought that pmc2c2 was definitely stable enough, but wasn't too sure about ops2c2.

Re: This week's summary

2003-12-10 Thread Mark J. Reed
On 2003-12-10 at 15:05:09, The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: Oh yes, if you've not been following, ^op (ie, the vector operators) has become op which is, if nothing else, a right swine to write in a POD C escape. Eh, op is just a hack for people who can't type C»op«, like ANSI C

Re: This week's summary

2003-11-25 Thread Joseph Ryan
The Perl 6 Summarizer wrote: Do Steve Fink's debugging for him Steve Fink had a problem with some generated code throwing a segfault when it was run and, having hit the debugging wall himself, posted the code to the list and asked help. Leo tracked down the bug in Parrot and fixed

Re: This week's summary

2003-11-14 Thread Piers Cawley
Leopold Toetsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Piers Cawley wrote: newsub and implicit registers [...] ops [...] that IMCC needed to track. Leo has a patch in his tree that deals with the issue. Sorry, my posting seems to have been misleading. The register tracking code is in the CVS

Re: This week's summary

2003-11-13 Thread Sam Vilain
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:21, Piers Cawley wrote; Freeze/thaw data format and PBC Leo Tötsch is working on the data serialization/deserialization (aka Freeze/Thaw) system discussed over the last few weeks. He wondered if there were any plans for the frozen image data format. Leo's

Re: This week's summary

2003-11-13 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Sam Vilain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:21, Piers Cawley wrote; Freeze/thaw data format and PBC Leo Tötsch is working on the data serialization/deserialization Cool. How are hooks in place for tools like Pixie and Tangram when these objects are being stored?

Re: This week's summary

2003-11-11 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Piers Cawley wrote: newsub and implicit registers [...] ops [...] that IMCC needed to track. Leo has a patch in his tree that deals with the issue. Sorry, my posting seems to have been misleading. The register tracking code is in the CVS tree. Thanks again for your summaries, leo

Re: This week's summary

2003-11-05 Thread Piers Cawley
Leopold Toetsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Parrot Calling Convention Confusion ... -- I thought they were exactly the same as an unprototyped call, but you invoke the return continuation (P1) instead of P0, the other registers are set up

Re: This week's summary

2003-11-04 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Parrot Calling Convention Confusion ... -- I thought they were exactly the same as an unprototyped call, but you invoke the return continuation (P1) instead of P0, the other registers are set up exactly as if you were making an unprototyped

Re: This week's Summary

2003-10-29 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Object Freezing [ ... ] ... The upshot is that we're doing it Dan's way; Glorious Leader continues to trump Pumpking Patchmonster. As this is a summary, abbove sentence is a summary as well. The reality is more complex. The final implementation

Re: This week's summary (off-list-to-protect the names of the young and old)

2003-09-16 Thread Vladimir Lipskiy
Dan spoke too soon, we have just confirmed that PIERS_C = 2.04739336492890995260663507109 * BRENT_D Brent isn't adult? Gosh! BRENT_D = 36/2.04739336492890995260663507109 = appr. 17 ages and 296 days

Re: This week's summary

2003-09-16 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... spending the morning of your 36th birthday Happy birthday to you and us. l - A full year has passed, hasn't it? - eo

Re: This week's summary

2003-09-16 Thread Piers Cawley
Leopold Toetsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... spending the morning of your 36th birthday Happy birthday to you and us. Thanks.

RE: This week's summary

2003-09-15 Thread Brent Dax
Dan Sugalski: # On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Brent Dax wrote: # Piers Cawley: # # Welcome to this week's Perl 6 Summary. And what better way could # there # # be of spending the morning of your 36th birthday than by reading # # through a bunch of old messages in a couple of mailing lists

RE: This week's summary (off-list-to-protect the names of the young and old)

2003-09-15 Thread Melvin Smith
: This week's summary (off-list-to-protect the names of the young and old) # Yes, Happy Birthday Piers, that makes you twice as old as Brent! :) You're about a month early to say that, but... *snickers* (Eighteen on October 20th. w00t.) --Brent Dax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perl and Parrot hacker Yeah, and my

RE: This week's summary (off-list-to-protect the names of the young and old)

2003-09-15 Thread Simon Glover
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Melvin Smith wrote: Dan spoke too soon, we have just confirmed that PIERS_C = 2.04739336492890995260663507109 * BRENT_D They both know their time of birth to the nearest nanosecond? Impressive. Simon

Re: This week's summary (off-list-to-protect the names of the young and old)

2003-09-15 Thread Piers Cawley
Simon Glover [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Melvin Smith wrote: Dan spoke too soon, we have just confirmed that PIERS_C = 2.04739336492890995260663507109 * BRENT_D They both know their time of birth to the nearest nanosecond? Impressive. I don't. But I do know that the

RE: This week's summary

2003-09-15 Thread Brent Dax
Piers Cawley: # Welcome to this week's Perl 6 Summary. And what better way could there # be of spending the morning of your 36th birthday than by reading # through a bunch of old messages in a couple of mailing lists and # boiling them down into a summary? Happy birthday, Piers.

RE: This week's summary

2003-09-15 Thread Dan Sugalski
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Brent Dax wrote: Piers Cawley: # Welcome to this week's Perl 6 Summary. And what better way could there # be of spending the morning of your 36th birthday than by reading # through a bunch of old messages in a couple of mailing lists and # boiling them

RE: This week's summary

2003-09-15 Thread Melvin Smith
PROTECTED] Subject:RE: This week's summary On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Brent Dax wrote: Piers Cawley: # Welcome to this week's Perl 6 Summary. And what better way could there # be of spending the morning of your 36th birthday than by reading # through a bunch of old

Re: This Week's Summary

2003-08-14 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Piers Cawley wrote in perl.perl6.internals : I want a Ponie! I promise that, as development of Ponie (the port of Perl 5 to Parrot) accelerates you'll see a summary of Ponie activity in this summary as well. In fact I imagined I was more or less going to do this, based on

Re: This Week's Summary

2003-08-14 Thread Dave Mitchell
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 07:32:00PM -, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: Will I really be forced to reimplement the whole subrecursive frobnizer for tied magic ? Almost certainly, I expect. -- There's something wrong with our bloody ships today, Chatfield. Admiral Beatty at the Battle of

Re: This Week's Summary

2003-08-14 Thread Piers Cawley
Matt Fowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Piers Cawley wrote: I want a Ponie! I promise that, as development of Ponie (the port of Perl 5 to Parrot) accelerates you'll see a summary of Ponie activity in this summary as well. However, almost all the traffic on the [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: This Week's Summary

2003-08-14 Thread K Stol
- Original Message - From: Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 5:42 AM Subject: This Week's Summary Perl 6 Summary for the week ending 20030810 Another week, another summary. How predictable is

Re: This Week's Summary

2003-08-14 Thread Piers Cawley
Simon Glover [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Piers Cawley wrote: Matt Fowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Piers Cawley wrote: I want a Ponie! I promise that, as development of Ponie (the port of Perl 5 to Parrot) accelerates you'll see a summary of Ponie activity in

Re: This Week's Summary

2003-08-14 Thread Juergen Boemmels
Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why new_pad *INT*? Michal Wallace asked for some clarification about new_pad, the opcode that creates a new lexical scratchpad. He thought that, 9 times out of 10 you would want to create a new pad at the next lower depth from the

Re: This Week's Summary

2003-08-14 Thread Piers Cawley
Dave Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 07:32:00PM -, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: Will I really be forced to reimplement the whole subrecursive frobnizer for tied magic ? Almost certainly, I expect. There's nothing to stop us *both* summarizing the parrot-dev

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