Re: designing a test suite for multiple implementations (tools thread)

2006-08-15 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 07:12:06PM -0700, chromatic wrote: > PS - sbk30, please don't send me any more automated followup messages. Fix > your mailing software. I've found that our resident neighbourhood BOFHs have been very helpful at forcibly un-subscribing anyone anti-social enough to be se

Re: designing a test suite for multiple implementations (tools thread)

2006-08-14 Thread chromatic
On Monday 14 August 2006 18:53, jerry gay wrote: > moving todo() info out of these test files leads to fragile > test harnesses, as adding a test to the middle of a file will change test > numbers. if test descriptions are used, then unique descriptions for each > test are required. et cetera. Su

Re: designing a test suite for multiple implementations (tools thread)

2006-08-14 Thread jerry gay
On 8/14/06, chromatic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ugh, so this means editing the canonical test repository for every status-changing update to every implementation? Yuck. This seems like a problem for implementation-specific harnesses and reporting tools. this is what prompted me to start th

Re: designing a test suite for multiple implementations (tools thread)

2006-08-14 Thread chromatic
On Monday 14 August 2006 17:20, jerry gay wrote: > > I've added the plan for the neutral todo mechanism to Pugs' TASKS > > file, getting help from many others on #perl6. The new todo marks look > > like this: > > > >todo :pugs<6.28.0>, :p6p5<0.110>, :parrot<1.00>; > >is $got, $expected; #

Re: designing a test suite for multiple implementations (tools thread)

2006-08-14 Thread jerry gay
[parrot-porters and p6l have been removed from this thread, as discussion of testing tools is not directly related to those lists] On 8/11/06, Agent Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/12/06, jerry gay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: this last testing rule i mentioned becomes somewhat problematic

Re: designing a test suite for multiple implementations (repository thread)

2006-08-14 Thread jerry gay
[dropped perl-qa and p6l from this thread, as it's repo-related, and not directly related to those lists] On 8/12/06, Audrey Tang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 在 2006/8/12 上午 3:01 時,jerry gay 寫到: > for "managed," i have a few ideas. currently, the suite lives in the > pugs repo. this is a fine fi

Re: designing a test suite for multiple implementations

2006-08-12 Thread Larry Wall
[Time to stop spamming multiple lists. Followups to p6c for bikeshedding.] On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 10:30:22AM +0300, Gaal Yahas wrote: : On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 02:06:27PM +0800, Agent Zhang wrote: : >is $got, $expected, todo :pugs<6.2.13>, :p6p5<0.110>; : > : > Happily, Audrey has already i

Re: designing a test suite for multiple implementations

2006-08-12 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 09:44:38PM +0800, Audrey Tang wrote: > That's assuming that the new repo, say, http://svn.perl.org/ > perl6tests/, can > give out commit permissions to parrot and pugs committers, yes. > > But as Jerry's initial motivation was moving Perl 6 tests to a more > official >

Re: designing a test suite for multiple implementations

2006-08-12 Thread Audrey Tang
在 2006/8/12 下午 6:15 時,Nicholas Clark 寫到: There's nothing technical stopping the Perl 6 tests being on svn.perl.org, but in a different svn repository from the current repositories, is there? Well, technically yes, except that SVK doesn't support svn:external yet. Setting a svn:external pro

Re: designing a test suite for multiple implementations

2006-08-12 Thread Agent Zhang
On 8/12/06, jerry gay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: for "managed," i have a few ideas. currently, the suite lives in the pugs repo. this is a fine first approximation, but i believe it will soon be time to move this suite[3]. the question is, should it be moved into their own repository, or into the

Re: designing a test suite for multiple implementations

2006-08-12 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 03:32:47PM +0800, Audrey Tang wrote: > > ?b 2006/8/12 ?W?? 3:01 ???Ajerry gay ?g???G > > >the question is, should it be moved into their own repository, or > >into the repo of > >the "official" perl6 implementation (if such a beast will indeed > >exist,) > > Currentl

Re: designing a test suite for multiple implementations

2006-08-12 Thread Gaal Yahas
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 02:06:27PM +0800, Agent Zhang wrote: >is $got, $expected, todo :pugs<6.2.13>, :p6p5<0.110>; > > Happily, Audrey has already implemented the $?PUGS_VERSION variable, > which can ease the implementation of such &todo subs: I've added a %?CONFIG variable which I propose e

Re: designing a test suite for multiple implementations

2006-08-12 Thread Audrey Tang
在 2006/8/12 上午 3:01 時,jerry gay 寫到: for "managed," i have a few ideas. currently, the suite lives in the pugs repo. this is a fine first approximation, but i believe it will soon be time to move this suite (it doesn't make sense to keep the "official" tests in a non-official repo in the long ter

Re: designing a test suite for multiple implementations

2006-08-11 Thread jerry gay
On 8/11/06, Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just to avoid repeating some of the discussion, here's a link to #perl6: http://colabti.de/irclogger/irclogger_log/perl6?date=2006-08-07,Mon&sel=110#l193 The discussion goes on and off for most of the rest of the page, so you probably want

Re: designing a test suite for multiple implementations

2006-08-11 Thread Larry Wall
Just to avoid repeating some of the discussion, here's a link to #perl6: http://colabti.de/irclogger/irclogger_log/perl6?date=2006-08-07,Mon&sel=110#l193 The discussion goes on and off for most of the rest of the page, so you probably want to search for and highlight "todo" if you're using f

Re: designing a test suite for multiple implementations

2006-08-11 Thread Darren Duncan
Note: This reply is being sent to all 4 mailing lists that the original was, though I am only subscribed to the first 2 myself, for the benefit of completeness to the readers of the original. -- As my initial reply, I'll bring up 2 recent discussions or Pugs changes that affec

designing a test suite for multiple implementations

2006-08-11 Thread jerry gay
recently, perl 6 development has taken the form of a multi-method dispatch. that is, multiple implementations are under active development. this includes pugs (in haskell,) v6 (in perl5,) v6-Compiler (in perl6,) and perl6 (on parrot.) hopefully, each of these returns the same result, a working[1]