be run in Perl 5 today
without needing Pugs or Parrot.
Cheers,
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not had a chance to look at Flavio's links yet. Since no one who
actually knows rules seemed to be inspired to write an example for me - I
will *eventually* figure it out on my own and post back to the list as an
FYI.
Paul Seamons
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of momentum - it is
still
being updated with new posts almost daily.
Allison
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of cygwin1.dll)
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Here's the output of make test on my box.
Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail Failed List of Failed
---
t/codingstd/c_code_coda.t 1
to the
minute facts concerning the project.
Juerd
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On 10/24/05, Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/24/05, Juerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Feel free to add your own, or fears you heard about!
This really isn't a fear as much as it is a complaint. It has to do with
design decisions and the list.
Perl 5 was my rewrite of Perl. I
/)
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the repository
to the public http://use.perl.org/~nicholas/journal/24649 but is anyone else
working on the project? With the excitement of Perl6, Parrot, and Pugs I
wonder if Ponie is being neglected.
Inquiring minds want to know.
Cheers,
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,
Joshua Gatcomb
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On 4/4/06, Larry Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 09:16:23AM -0400, Joshua Gatcomb wrote:
Junctions are not intended for that use. We have Sets for that now.
Ok. So this will work out of the box if you use the right tool. Cool.
The cabal already decided once
.
Anyone know what my problems is or is willing to work with me on this would
be most appreciated.
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changed from nmake to mingw32-make along the way, which is bound to fail.
Perhaps this is the spot where it is appropriate to warn the user.
I don't mind writing the patch but as I have been away for 1.5 years I would
really like to hear the opinions of where is the best way to do it.
Cheers,
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but perhaps the order of hints/make should
change. I don't know that's why I am asking.
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happy to write tests to get the appropriate
functionality in Pugs, but I am not sure what is
appropriate???
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{ ... }
is what I think it might be modeling it after the for
loop, but the closest thing I see for while is:
while =$*IN - $line {...}
I am happy to write tests to get the appropriate
functionality in Pugs, but I am not sure what is
appropriate???
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, if anything, is the proper way
to do what I want. The worst that could happen is that I find out
there isn't a way to get a what matched from an any() eq any()
comparison.
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answered the questions enough times in p5 circles
though, it would be nice to have a real simple easy answer for p6.
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there is more than one way to dictate behavior.
http://www.sidhe.org/~dan/blog/archives/000178.html
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On 5/4/05, Luke Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 5/4/05, Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So without asking for S17 in its entirety to be written, is it
possible to get a synopsis of how p6 will do coroutines? I ask
because after reading Dan's What the heck is: a coroutine
On 5/4/05, Luke Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 5/4/05, Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok - this isn't what I was expecting at all. That doesn't make it a
bad thing. Given something that looks a lot more like a typical
coroutine:
sub example is coroutine {
yield 1
can
change.
sub some_rourtine {
state $foo = 42;
return $foo++;
}
My apologies if this has been previously discussed or is documented
somewhere. I am still playing catch up. Ok, ok - it's true - I am
looking for a little instant gratification.
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and non-mutator versions of chomp (and
other functions) have been kicked around the list.
Any definitive word yet?
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but forget it ever
happened, and 1 would be an outright failure.
Ok - so could someone set me straight?
What should that code snippet do? Would it do anything different if
Int had been int?
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and leaving
the hard choices for doing the right thing up to you all. Whatever
the right thing is, will there be a way to do what my code snippet
showed?
Cheers,
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patches where the bulk of the work is
done and @larry makes any necessary modifications and commits. If
even that work load proves to be too much, perhaps common mortals get
granted commit access on a case-by-case basis.
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with a volunteer to act as the approving
authority.
Hmmm. Thanks. I guess I will have to go back over the questions I
have asked and see if any decisions were rendered not relfected in
docs and be a pioneer.
Pm
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On 6/10/05, Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmmm. Thanks. I guess I will have to go back over the questions I
have asked and see if any decisions were rendered not relfected in
docs and be a pioneer.
Ok, are there any guidelines for what should and should not be put
forward
the
'packed' warnings/strictures pragma, and stick it the right place.
The patch to S09 has me stumped.
Is there any other reference material I can use to put together solid
frameworks that are closely representative to what @larry might
produce?
Pm
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be nice if p6 could somehow make that
easier. Again, my focus is on the design docs and not on pack/unpack.
I just used it as a discussion point since it is what I was working
on at the time.
Joshua Gatcomb
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On 6/17/05, Larry Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 03:56:50AM +0800, Autrijus Tang wrote:
:
: my $x = 3;
: my $y = \$x;
: say $y + 10;
: $y++;
: say $y;
: say $x;
:
I suspect people will find that counterintuitive. A more consistent
the op in.
Michele
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was
seeing. Parrot has changed considerably since then as
has Cygwin and gcc. I would suggest asking the list
if there is anyone interested in carrying on the
Cygwin torch by asking them to reproduce the problem.
I no longer have an environment to do so.
Thanks,
-J
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(insert undefs as needed)
-error (blow up if the lists are not equal in size)
etc
Juerd
Just my 2 cents from the peanut gallery.
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On 3/28/07, Ron Blaschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joshua Gatcomb wrote:
Really? No one on #parrot has been able to get parrot to work on Cygwin
for months.
Interesting, didn't know about this.
The issue for the longest time was that miniparrot.exe would silently die
and not even gdb
that there was a bug which counted lines
after __DATA__ as perl code. I am not sure if that applies in this
situation but it added 10K SLOC to my project which was less than 2K without
it ;-)
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. Just /bin is probably a bit paranoid but that doesn't mean that the
gremlins aren't out to get me.
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or compiling a more recent gcc themselves.
That is, as long as it is not causing problems anywhere else.
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On 6/12/07, Andy Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm very uncomfortable with removing #pragma once from our header
files. It is perfectly valid C89 code
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see http://nopaste.snit.ch:8001/10585 for details or paste below - the last
FYI all
r20662 builds fine on Win32 with MinGW and Cygwin
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As far as I can tell, r20659 is the last rev perl6 worked correctly on
r20660
On Nov 18, 2007 12:25 PM, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The next release will be on Tuesday evening. Committers, please review your
checkins and update NEWS appropriately. Everyone, please submit updates to
PLATFORMS.
Running make fulltest and reporting any failures would be very handy
Per your request, the pasted output of mingw32-make fulltest with gcc
3.4.5 on Win32
rev 22919
Ok, I am a dolt - that is the output for Win32 Cygwin
The output for Win32 MinGW is coming soon
/usr/bin/perl.exe t/harness --gc-debug --running-make-test -b
t/compilers/imcc/*/*.t t/op/*.t
On Nov 18, 2007 12:25 PM, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The next release will be on Tuesday evening. Committers, please review your
checkins and update NEWS appropriately. Everyone, please submit updates to
PLATFORMS.
Running make fulltest and reporting any failures would be very handy
It is also a very quick hack because I was on my lunch
break.
Enjoy
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Description: benchmark
don't know what kind of layout/data would be useful
to people so let me know if you want something else.
I will update every Tuesday morning.
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Here is the modified parrotbench script along with
the
new data collection script and the script to make it
into a web page.
I don't know what kind of layout/data would be
useful
to people so let me know if you want something else.
I
greater control using ini configuration
3. Output is pretty
4. Lots of bugs squashed (probably more introduced)
5. POD updated
6. Multiple regexes allowed for benchmarks to be run
7. Multiple regexes allowed for benchmarks to be
skipped
8. Probably some stuff I am forgetting
Joshua Gatcomb
have a few ideas for improving parrotbench.pl.
When I am done with those, I will confer with you on
getting the storage format worked out.
Regards,
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% 20
2 tests and 53 subtests skipped.
Failed 2/120 test scripts, 98.33% okay. 29/1828
subtests failed, 98.41% okay.
make: *** [test] Error 14
Not that you need to ask, but Cygwin ;-)
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--- Leopold Toetsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
t/pmc/nci.t28 716835 28 80.00%
1-27
strange.
t/pmc/perlhash.t1 256361 2.78% 20
Only that one is supposed to fail.
leo
This might help shed some light:
$ cd t
--- Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Enhancements:
1. Should be platform independent now
2. Much greater control using ini configuration
3. Output is pretty
4. Lots of bugs squashed (probably more introduced)
I found a few and have erradicated them. I also added
some new
--- Leopold Toetsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joshua Gatcomb wrote:
This might help shed some light:
$ cd t/pmc
$ parrot nci_1.pasm
Not really. bash: parrot: command not found ;)
You got an old parrot around somewhere in the path?
No - believe it or not I only ever keep 1 version
to help, please let
me know.
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--- Leopold Toetsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think I could track it down. It wasn't strictly
NCI related, though.
I guess you didn't need me to track down the CVS
changes as this fixed the problem - THANKS.
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things on my account yet. When I get the time, I will
investigate.
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2. Add what's missing.
3. Fix what's broke.
4. Delay optimizing working code in favor of 2 3.
Since the usual purpose of a point release is to have
features finished and bugs squashed, it may be a good
time for another release.
What say you?
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to enable the signal tests by adding
cygwin to t/pmc/signals.t
*** The only failing tests are if you enable the
threading tests as annotated above
leo
I used to have Win ME to test but no longer so I don't
know what 9x/ME would turn up
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cygwin1.dll-1.5.11-1 - current stable build, blows up
I will be pinging the Cygwin list momentarily to see
if they have any insight.
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I happened to have found the last cygwin1.dll lying
around in /tmp that I kept as a backup. I swapped
it
with the current cygwin1.dll just to see if it would
make the IO problem go away and much to my happy
surprise - it did.
Details:
cygwin1
--- Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Threads: Y*
Tests:Y***
* You need to enable the threading tests by adding
cygwin to t/pmc/threads.t though a handful of tests
will fail due to an outstanding IO issue likely
caused
by Cygwin
*** The only failing tests are if you enable
/../../../../i686-pc-cygwin/bin/ld:
cannot find -licui18n
I would propose that if Configure.pl does see any
other icu config flags that it not attempt to auto
configure.
You can use --icu-config=none if you want do disable
the autodetect feature.
That's what I am doing for now
jens
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--- Jens Rieks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wednesday 29 September 2004 18:40, Joshua Gatcomb
wrote:
cannot find -licui18n
I am not sure, is this library used by parrot?
I have no idea - first I have seen it other than when
I built ICU many moons ago.
I would propose
as if by the time the time the second
print happens, the filehandle is already closed
So - since threads aren't officially supposed to be
working on Cygwin - is this something I should care
about or not?
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--- Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Up until a couple of weeks ago, all the threads
tests
were passing on Cygwin. I had submitted a patch
some
time ago that never got applied enabling tests for
threads, timer, and extend_13 that never got
applied.
I figured there was good reason
--- Leopold Toetsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I had submitted a patch some time ago that never
got
applied enabling tests for threads, timer, and
extend_13.
Overlooked? Please rediff and resend.
I will do - likely tomorrow.
It says
--- Leopold Toetsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... only 1 of the
two messages is displayed
I've fixed a flaw in the IO flush code. Please try
again, thanks.
Still not working, but thanks! The behavior has
changed a bit though.
Here is the behavior
back to the previous version which did not have
the requirement.
Just let me know
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After the change - case 3 now prints thread 1.
Strange.
indeed
You mentioned in the previous email that you were
interested in knowing if this was Windows IO or
the
Cygwin variant. I would love
since it only ever prints thread
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While it has introduced a new IO bug that is failing a
handful of threads tests, it also appears to have
fixed a different bug where some of the trigonomic
functions would blow up under JIT.
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Joshua Gatcomb accidentally introduced a dependency
on
Config::IniFiles. Since it is implemented in pure
perl he offered to
add it to the repository. Warnock applies.
http://xrl.us/div3
In the note offering to fix it, I also listed numerous
--- Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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1. Transfer ICU 3.0 and build from source
2. Do a fresh CVS checkout of parrot, transfer and
build
$ perl Configure.pl --optimize
configure all goes well
$ make
all goes well until parrot is linked
c++ -o parrot -L/usr/local/lib -Wl
--- Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
1. Transfer ICU 3.0 and build from source
2. Do a fresh CVS checkout of parrot, transfer
and
build
$ perl Configure.pl --optimize
configure all goes well
$ make
all goes well
--- Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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ok, so I did investigate a little further. make
testj
works fine (all tests pass) if I don't pass the
--optimize flag to Configure.pl.
Ok, so optimizations break things - why not add more.
Interestingly, adding more aggressive options make
--- Leopold Toetsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All tests pass normally, but I get 3 tests
failing
under JIT
t/op/interp.t #7
t/pmc/coroutine.t #10
t/pmc/exception.t #19
ok, so I did investigate a little further. make
testj
works fine
variable
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH
(in Bourne shell syntax).
Does that help?
This indeed corrects this problem.
Andy Dougherty[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Salamat!
Joshua Gatcomb
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flag to Configure.pl. I also have
RH 9.0 and would love someone to confirm that make
testj will fail on 3 tests (unless you additionally
pass it another flag). Interestingly enough - the
same failure ocurrs on Cygwin.
Kind regards,
Alberto
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At 11:08 PM -0800 11/2/04, Jeff Clites wrote:
On Nov 2, 2004, at 7:10 PM, Matt Diephouse wrote:
Joshua Gatcomb and I have been working a little
under a week to set up
an automated build system for parrot that tracks
performance (with
help from Dan's box). We have collected benchmark
data
cross post
to other Perl forums such as PerlMonks
(http://www.perlmonks.org). This is a perfect way for
non C programmers and those who have no knowledge of
Parrot to still contribute in a meaningful way.
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questions:
1. Would people prefer missing data for benchmarks
where they won't work or a manually entered high
number to draw attention to them?
2. Should we be checking that the output of the
benchmarks (right or wrong) is consistent?
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on continuing maintenance?
And just to be clear for those reading at homejust
because I am asking doesn't mean I am volunteering.
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:34:05 -0500
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From: Clinton
decision and
there is as of yet no ruling.
Joshua Gatcomb should comment on whether or not this
should be applied.
Apply away. I have held off making any modifications
waiting on another design decision. Leo opened up a
ticket on this script because it used a non-core Perl
module. I listed
over. Hopefully you
will find the sweet spot - I sure hope you do.
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On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:23 PM, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 21 February 2008 06:25:42 Joshua Gatcomb wrote:
I could take a month's sabbatical from my day job for $5000 without losing
insurance coverage or other benefits. That's slightly more than Audrey's
$100/day, I
efficient way to accomplish that goal.
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After learning that some folks were having troubles building parrot on
Cygwin, I
--- Leopold Toetsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2. All tests are now passing on Cygwin.
Are signal and thread tests skipped or running?
No, they are both skipped. I am doing a bit more
research on this because I had trouble with both
threading
All:
While there are definately ICU issues on Cygwin, I
have gotten it to link to parrot both statically and
dynamically several different ways. The problem is
that the resulting parrot.exe coredumps upon
execution. I had always assumed that the problem was
related to ICU since it was
get the
exact same results:
#4 0x004bd577 in enter_nci_method
(interpreter=0x100d1d28, type=26, func=0x47e040,
name=0x53d0f9 thread1, proto=0x53d0f4 vIOP) at
src/inter_misc.c:65
I am not sure where to go from here. Any suggestions?
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values
deviated from my expectations.
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--- Leopold Toetsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joshua Gatcomb wrote:
I am not sure where to go from here. Any
suggestions?
Ok, here is a sample debugging session:
$ cat hello.pasm
print hello\n
end
$ parrot hello.pasm
hello
$ gdb parrot
...
(gdb) b new_pmc_header
(gdb
. Patches
welcome. The same problem is, if perl5 is compiled
with long doubles.
leo
I think this is something I could do if I knew what it
*should be* using/getting the values from.
Thanks again
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= 380.13 CPU)
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taking about 4 seconds.
parrot -j anything used to coredump
primes2.pasm with -j is now under 2 seconds.
Again, thanks to everyone.
Joshua Gatcomb
a.k.a. Limbic~Region
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--- Leopold Toetsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
parrot -j examples/benchmarks/primes2.pasm
exists_keyed() not implemented in class 'PerlInt'
Ah. yep. Due to eliminating two vtable functions,
other ones after that
moved down in table. JIT needs
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