, no full build log available for this one, and it takes more than
an hour for me to compile it :)
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silently.
I don't think that t/builtins/strings/uc.t itself is the problem,
because it runs in a few seconds if executed manually.
Can anybody reproduce the problem or suggest anything that I could do
about it?
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.
in case it matters, the phiscal directory lies at /mnt/ex/moritz/pugs,
usually I work with a symlink in my home dir (that is /home/moritz/pugs
- /mnt/ex/moritz/pugs)
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the command line arguments are stored in
@*ARGS.
I can't answer your question, sorry ;-).
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Hi,
brian d foy wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Moritz Lenz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
brian d foy wrote:
Under the section The for Statement in S04, it says that the diamond
operator
while( ) { ... }
becomes in Perl 6
for =$*ARGS { ... }
Some time ago I read
Hi,
Moritz Lenz wrote:
for a few weeks now I haven't been able to complete a single make
smoke in the pugs repository.
The last test producing an output is:
t/builtins/strings/uc.t
# Actual: ß
at that point there are no more messages for ~ 10 minutes, and there are
instances
Hi,
brian d foy wrote:
At the moment the file test operators that I expect to return true or
false do, but the true is the filename.
that helps chaining of file test:
$fn ~~ :t ~~ :x
or something.
If you want a boolean, use
? $fn ~~ :x
or something.
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Afaict so far only 2 out of 10 are granted, so ideas and applications
are welcome.
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Thomas Wittek wrote:
Moritz Lenz schrieb:
What makes Perl hard to read is the excessive use of special characters
(/\W/).
I disagree: The make it look ugly, but not hard to read.
Even if it's only ugly: To what advantage? I don't think ugliness is a
good characteristic of a programming
finish.
I don't think most of are not open to new point of views, but regard p6
they just don't help atm.
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Moritz Lenz wrote:
Thomas Wittek wrote:
Moritz Lenz schrieb:
I would also like semicolons to be optional.
Most people don't ;-).
Oh, really? Source? :)
I paraphrased Larry Wall. Iirc it was everybody wants the semicolon or
something - correct me if I'm wrong.
sorry, masak++ pointed out
to the list.
It did. For the future I'd suggest that you commit them yourself, that's
far more efficient. Just tell us what nick name you want, and somebody
will invite you. If you want a different email address then the one you
used on this list, please let us know as well ;-)
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you'll end up doing the same as I did.
ATM I don't know that should be implemented, but perhaps somebody else
can think of a good way.
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=begin pod
=head3 Cmethod from_string(Str $s);
[..]
=end pod
method from_string(Str $s){
# implementation of that method here
}
Since method signatures are very expressive in Perl 6, there should be a
way of accessing them in the POD without
of lines, but in
terms of visual blocks (at least I do), so if everything in heredoc goes
verbatim into a string, I'd expect _everything_ in that block to go into
that string. Everything else looks like an artificial exception to me.
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beneath http://svn.pugscode.org/pugs/docs/,
perhaps essentials/
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perhaps essentials/
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so. Web is hopefully CGI done
right, and still in its early planning stage.
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extents.
You should discuss that on p5p, not here. Only Perl 6 is on topic here.
Is there a place where we can add suggestions ? apart from the first one in...
2003 ? 4 years ago ?
You can write them here on p6l.
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chromatic wrote:
On Wednesday 20 June 2007 15:53:59 Moritz Lenz wrote:
Basically I think that
- we need the test somewhere and
- it is not a test that one would usually write unless he/she found a
regression in one implementation.
Therefore it would be good to have them somewhere
Smylers wrote:
Moritz Lenz writes:
You could help by contributing some suggestions to what the new Web
module should be able to do, and how so. Web is hopefully CGI done
right, and still in its early planning stage.
Web module? This is the first I've heard of it. Where is it being
that is annotated with Pod 6.
So everybody reading this is now condemned to write an OO Perl 6 module,
and document it with Pod 6 ;-)
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building a p6
compiler?
* Do you have a good idea for a project name?
Any other ideas and comments are welcome as well.
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Software programs with awful names such
as YELP.
It can just be a part of perldoc - that's one good name.
for the ultimate goal that's true, but for the intermediate goal that I
described in my first mail a name would still be useful - even if it
disappears in the end.
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Juerd Waalboer wrote:
Moritz Lenz skribis 2007-07-10 12:43 (+0200):
$ p6explain '[]'
[...] can be
* '[$expression]': access to one or more array elements if used as
postcircumfix
Example: @a[2]; # access
Steffen Schwigon wrote:
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considering the vast number of Operators and the like, I had the
idea to implement a tool where you can enter a small piece of p6
syntax, and it explains what that might mean. (like a perldoc -f for
operators/syntax elements
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an IDE. I realize that's a long term goal.
Which leads me to the question: how should the data be assembled so that
it could be used in such a way?
Would it be enough to store the name of the token, along with the
description?
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Dave Whipp wrote:
Moritz Lenz wrote:
You're probably right about that, but somebody who writes his own macros
and operators probably doesn't need such a tool anyway. And should write
very good documentation, otherwise he has lost outright.
(I was thinking that your tool would provide
Steve Pitchford wrote:
Moritz Lenz wrote:
Dave Whipp wrote:
One approach would simply be to edit Perl-6.0.0-STD.pm and add some
markup. To pick a token at random:
=p6explain *
An asterix in a version expression matches any version
=end
token whatever { '*' {*} }
You convinced me
perlhints5.pl (implemented in
p5), and a very basic web interface at
http://moritz.faui2k3.org/perlhints/, for example
http://moritz.faui2k3.org/perlhints/?q=*. What it lacks mostly is the
data ;)
Currently all data is read from a single flat file.
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estimate about 10
lines per token that contains quote characters (like '{'})
$ wc -l Perl-6.0.0-STD.pm
2701 Perl-6.0.0-STD.pm
$ grep -E '[^']+' Perl-6.0.0-STD.pm |wc -l
229
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Num provides a number of constants in addition to the basic mathematical
functions. To get these constants, you must request them:
use Num :constants;
or use the full name, e.g. Num::pi.
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Sorry, didn't read the output carefully enough: it's a compilation
error, not a segfault. The other informations should be accurate ;)
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starting any kind of flame-fest
about anyone's favorite concurrency model here :-D
Why flame, when we can have all of them at once? ;-)
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wants to take care of these, now is the right time. You don't
need to be a Debian Developer, it's enough to find one who sponsors your
uploads.
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subscription). If you select Advanced Mode, you can chose only to get
bug reports.
Moritz
Allison
Moritz Lenz wrote:
Good localtime(),
The Debian packages for pugs and parrot have been orphaned, i.e. they
have no maintainer anymore, and will disappear from Debian if nobody
takes
.
... and applied as r19288 by Larry.
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, and is not an
Erlang based language ;-)
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'mö i' ? Or does the space get a \N{COMBINING DIAERESIS}? Or
is it tranlated to \N{DIAERESIS}? What about other non-letter characters?
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I noticed that many test files contain old POD like this:
=pod
some description here
=cut
Should that all be replaced by the new POD?
=begin description
text here
=end description
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, and
that DB could be used both by the action class and to emit some perldoc).
Are there better ideas, perhaps even some that don't introduce more
layers? ;-)
Any comments are welcome.
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On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 04:08:04PM +0100, Moritz Lenz wrote:
: About half a year ago I posted my idea of a program that explains Perl 6
: syntax:
:
: http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.users/2007/07/msg621.html
:
: Differing from my first post I know think
Moritz Lenz wrote:
I just ran
../../parrot perl6.pbc --target=past t/01-sanity/02-counter.t
and it seems that I'm able to reconstruct the basic structure (I can
identify operators and variables and their position in the source code,
for example), but for example it stores variables this way
just tell me, I'm
only following Perl 6 development for about a year).
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repo contains pugs, STD.pm (the grammar), some
of synopsis (in docs/Perl6/Spec/), kp6 (in v6/v6-KindaPerl6), smop (in
v6/smop/) and various other stuff.
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John M. Dlugosz wrote:
I'm taking a stab at turning the S\d\d documents into a formal standard.
That's certainly a nice idea, and much work. ++ for taking it.
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Technically the Cartesian cross operator doesn't have an identity value.
It has.
The set which contains only the emty set, or in perl terms ([]);
Or am I missing something?
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did you check for a conflict with an existing Parrot installation?
There was no other parrot installed.
Could you check whether a current checkout of Parrot now works on CentOS?
No, I don't have access to that machine any more. Sorry.
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/ to be wrong or
outdated, feel free to contact me, and I'll send a patch to our webmasters.
I tried to update the most important parts (without being too
intrusive), but it's surely not complete.
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is MyMath {
method can_take_sqrt($x:){
True
}
...
}
That way a user of class MyMath can always call can_take_sqrt() to check
if she can satisfy the precondition.
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doesn't need to be in perl 6.0.0. Of course any implementer is welcome
to do perform that optimization where possible ;-)
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John M. Dlugosz wrote:
Moritz Lenz moritz-at-casella.verplant.org |Perl 6| wrote:
This is described in depth in Object oriented software construction by
Bertrand Meyer.
OK, reading about it in Wiki, I see what it's supposed to do.
PRE - derived classes may weaken but not strengthen
John M. Dlugosz wrote:
Moritz Lenz moritz-at-casella.verplant.org |Perl 6| wrote:
John M. Dlugosz wrote:
I posted my current work at
http://www.dlugosz.com/files/specdoc.pdf
and .odt.
3.1.1 Normalization uses a constant without a sigil - is that really
allowed?
Yes, it's
for/when is so
close...
I'd assume 'given' provides scalar context onto its argument, 'for'
obviously provides list context.
But I guess the main difference is that 'for' is associated with
iteration, and IMHO it feels unnatural to iterate over one item.
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that it defaults to 'my', or should it be 'our' like everything else?
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is an error. So should we have
tests like this:
dies_ok sum(1+2), 'no builtin sum()';
It's clear that we can't test for all possible builtins, but we could at
least catch the most common mistakes.
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current (r27325) rakudo doesn't allow my Int $x = undef:
echo 'my Int $x = undef' | ../../parro
t perl6.pbc
Type check failed
Reported by muixirt++
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. It doesn't change any semantics.
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===
--- languages/perl6/src/parser/actions.pm (revision 27393)
+++ languages/perl6
method !foo ...
my method foo ... # same, but foo is aliased to !foo
Am I right in assuming that the second example is valid only for roles?
I find this different syntax for classes and roles quite confusing. Is
it intended that way? I'd welcome a uniform syntax.
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' is orthogonal to the scope of the class.
class A {
my method foo { }
}
class A is also {
method bar {
# no way to access self!foo here
}
}
So is
our method !foo {}
allowed in classes? and is it the recommended way to declare private
methods?
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), for example the options --regression-only and
--fudge are non-orthogonal, although in an ideal world they should be.
Should I refactor t/harness? or just leave it in the current shape?
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Index: t/harness
Jonathan Worthington wrote:
Moritz Lenz wrote:
rakudo's make spectest suffers from too much noise in its output.
The attached patch adds a spectest_regression target to Makefile that
uses whitelisting to run only those tests that are known to pass.
This is really useful! Applied
compile to execution time
* --fudge and --regression-only now work orthogonally
* 'make spectest' now runs all of the spec tests.
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gmake[1]: *** No rule to make target `src/pmc/mutable.pmc.template',
needed by `src/pmc/mutable.pmc'. Stop.
Thanks for reporting, attached patch (+ 'make Makefile') fixes this for me.
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Attached patch adds a few more files to the 'make spectest_regression'
target. All of them pass.
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Index: languages/perl6/t/passing_spec
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--- languages
-inclusive range: ..^ ^.. ^..^
ISTR that the current policy is to parse only the things that are
implemented in the compiler.
(should I submit a patch for README with a few more commit policies? or
a separate document?
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' make target.
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--- t/harness (revision 27895)
+++ t/harness (working copy)
@@ -22,6 +22,7 @@
GetOptions(
'tests-from-file=s
would violate an is shape() definition.
I added that as a test (+smartlink).
I also fixed the other four offending tests. Rakudo now passes all of
t/S29-array/delete.t
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$_ in map works (2)';
}
These two tests actually succeed in rakudo, but should they?
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--- t/spectest_regression.data (revision 27933
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This is a known issue, and nobody really knows what to do about it. Pugs
isn't actively developed at the moment.
My last successful build was r18093 with GHC 6.6.1.
Maybe we should just die in Makefile.PL until somebody finds a fix.
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Ryan Richter wrote:
On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 12:03:00PM +0200, Moritz Lenz wrote:
My last successful build was r18093 with GHC 6.6.1.
Maybe we should just die in Makefile.PL until somebody finds a fix.
Maybe we should just revert the pugs source to that rev. Haven't the
modifications since
Attached patch, mostly courtesy Vasily bacek Chekalkin, adds the
eval_lives_ok and eval_dies_ok methods to Test.pm, and adds three more
passing tests to 'make spectest_regression'.
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Oops, forgot to attach patch. Now it's really there.
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--- languages/perl6/t/spectest_regression.data (revision 28065
. If it should fall back (and I don't know if it
does), you have to declare sub bar(Foo $w, Int $x){ say sub bar }
How about if the method
isn't a multimethod (or if the sub is a multisub)?
Pm
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Ronald Schmidt wrote:
Moritz Lenz wrote:
Oops, forgot to attach patch. Now it's really there.
Your implementations of eval_lives_ok and eval_dies_ok seem
inconsistent. eval_lives_ok uses try and eval_dies_ok does not. The
two implementations may catch different types of exceptions
Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
t/spec/S02-builtin_data_types/type.t:23 in the spectests (r20685)
has the following:
my Int $foo;
my Str $bar;
#?rakudo skip 'type checking unimpl'
{
#?pugs 1 todo
is(try{$foo = 'xyz'}, undef, 'Int restricts to integers');
specifies the
operation mode? Or are they both dump, and the regex engine does the
mapping from smart to dump itself?
Anyway, S29 needs clarification.
BTW the naming seems inconsistent to me: same*case* preserves *case*,
but same*base* preserves *accents*
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for free:
subset Crosshair of Point where { $_.inside_of($target_zone) };
Is that valid syntax?
Yes. See http://perlcabal.org/syn/S02.html#Polymorphic_types for similar
examples.
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Attached patch adds three more test files (list builtins).
The last two tests in joint. are likely to be wrong, and are fudged as
such. Further clarification is welcome.
More on that in a separate mail.
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hope I didn't confuse too much
here ;-)
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-implementations. Nonetheless you should investigate in that direction
before choosing PHParakeet as a name.
This still has the PHP in it, but only as a sensible abbreviation of
Plum-Headed Parakeet.
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in that blog post, and use the script as
you see fit.
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rakudo-graph.pl
Description: Perl program
inline: graph.png
). If you want to
modify more tests, you can easily get a commit bit for that repository,
just ask me or someone on #perl6 (on irc.freenode.net)
Cheers,
Moritz
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Attached is an updated version, as well as an example chart it creates.
This is not as pretty as the previous version, but it's more informative.
If there are significant number of failed tests, I could also include
their number.
Any comments?
Cheers,
Moritz
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Ovid wrote:
--- Moritz Lenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Attached is an updated version, as well as an example chart it
creates.
This is not as pretty as the previous version, but it's more
informative.
If there are significant number of failed tests, I could also include
their number.
Any
Hi again,
Ovid wrote:
--- Moritz Lenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Attached is an updated version, as well as an example chart it
creates.
This is not as pretty as the previous version, but it's more
informative.
If there are significant number of failed tests, I could also include
the number of tests wrongly.
I'll probably move some of the simpler tests to a separate file to work
around these limitations for now (currently assign.t has 308 tests,
which is way above average anyway)
Cheers,
Moritz
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Moritz Lenz wrote:
Will Coleda wrote:
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Frederik Schwarzer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
But if I do:
my @arr = (23, 42);
my $temp = @arr[0]; # copy?
@arr[0] = @arr[1];
say $temp; # 42
$temp is 42 ...
I expected $temp to be 23 here.
Am I
seem
to be under-tested indeed.
Which reminds me of, we should have a guide to add tests in the pugs
repo with all informations in one place, and have the linked to from the
rakudo README.
Cheers,
Moritz
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fails with Null PMC access in type(), not with Type check
failed.
Cheers,
Moritz
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?
Or everything into Complex.pir?
Or everything but the ops in Complex.pir, and ops into builtins/op.pir?
Cheers,
Moritz
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Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 01:04:43AM -0700, Moritz Lenz wrote:
Rakudo as of r28692 reports a slightly wrong context on reporting parse
failures.
When trying to parse t/spec/S02-builtin_data_types/lists.t (r21012) it
reports:
Statement not terminated properly
strongly protests in the mean time).
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Thanks!
Pm
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