RE: Unicode thoughts...

2002-03-30 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 4:32 PM -0800 3/25/02, Brent Dax wrote: I *really* strongly suggest we include ICU in the distribution. I recently had to turn off mod_ssl in the Apache 2 distro because I couldn't get OpenSSL downloaded and configured. FWIW, ICU in the distribution is a given if we use it. Parrot will

Re: Unicode thoughts...

2002-03-30 Thread Josh Wilmes
Someone said that ICU requires a C++ compiler. That's concerning to me, as is the issue of how we bootstrap our build process. We were planning on a platform-neutral miniparrot, and IMHO that can't include ICU (as i'm sure it's not going to be written in pure ansi C) --Josh At 8:45 on

Re: Unicode thoughts...

2002-03-30 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 10:07 AM -0500 3/30/02, Josh Wilmes wrote: Someone said that ICU requires a C++ compiler. That's concerning to me, as is the issue of how we bootstrap our build process. We were planning on a platform-neutral miniparrot, and IMHO that can't include ICU (as i'm sure it's not going to be

Re: Unicode thoughts...

2002-03-30 Thread Jeff
Dan Sugalski wrote: At 10:07 AM -0500 3/30/02, Josh Wilmes wrote: Someone said that ICU requires a C++ compiler. That's concerning to me, as is the issue of how we bootstrap our build process. We were planning on a platform-neutral miniparrot, and IMHO that can't include ICU (as i'm sure

RE: Unicode thoughts...

2002-03-25 Thread Brent Dax
Jeff: # This will likely open yet another can of worms, but Unicode has been # delayed for too long, I think. It's time to add the Unicode libraries # (In our case, the ICU libraries at http://oss.software.ibm.com/icu/, # which Larry has now blessed) to Parrot. string.c already has # (admittedly

RE: Unicode thoughts...

2002-03-25 Thread Charles Bunders
We also need to make sure ICU will work everywhere. And I do mean *everywhere*. Will it work on VMS? Palm OS? Crays? Nope, nope, and nope. From their site - Operating systemCompilerTesting frequency Windows 98/NT/2000 Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0Reference

Re: Unicode thoughts...

2002-03-25 Thread Josh Wilmes
This is rather concerning to me. As I understand it, one of the goals for parrot was to be able to have a usable subset of it which is totally platform-neutral (pure ANSI C). If we start to depend too much on another library which may not share that goal, we could have trouble with the

RE: Unicode thoughts...

2002-03-25 Thread Hong Zhang
I think it will be relative easy to deal with different compiler and different operating system. However, ICU does contain some C++ code. It will make life much harder, since current Parrot only assume ANSI C (even a subset of it). Hong This is rather concerning to me. As I understand it,

Re: Unicode thoughts...

2002-03-25 Thread Jeff
Hong Zhang wrote: I think it will be relative easy to deal with different compiler and different operating system. However, ICU does contain some C++ code. It will make life much harder, since current Parrot only assume ANSI C (even a subset of it). Hong This is rather concerning to

Re: Unicode thoughts...

2002-03-25 Thread Jeff
Jeff wrote: Hong Zhang wrote: I think it will be relative easy to deal with different compiler and different operating system. However, ICU does contain some C++ code. It will make life much harder, since current Parrot only assume ANSI C (even a subset of it). Hong This is

Unicode thoughts...

2002-03-24 Thread Jeff
This will likely open yet another can of worms, but Unicode has been delayed for too long, I think. It's time to add the Unicode libraries (In our case, the ICU libraries at http://oss.software.ibm.com/icu/, which Larry has now blessed) to Parrot. string.c already has (admittedly unavoidable, due