Fwd: Re: [Pkg-parrot-devel] Parrot 4.0.0

2012-04-08 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
I just sent the message below to the parrot packagers mailing list on Debian; I felt it was also worth sharing with p6c. I'm certain there are people who disagree greatly with what I wrote -- and that's fine -- I just wanted to make sure my current perspective on this topic was available to p6c

Re: sound distribution practices

2012-04-08 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 03:23:26PM +0200, Alessandro Ghedini wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 09:08:21PM -0400, Andrew Whitworth wrote: What if we did something like bundling? Isn't this what Rakudo Star does? AFAICT the Star distribution is nothing more than a bundle of rakudo + nqp +

Re: sound distribution practices

2012-04-08 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 06:53:49PM +0200, Alessandro Ghedini wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:09:30AM -0500, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: Unfortunately, aiui Parrot's current implementation requires that all of its downstream users (including Rakudo and NQP) must be rebuilt every time

Re: sound distribution practices

2012-04-08 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 07:32:55PM +0200, Alessandro Ghedini wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 12:15:44PM -0500, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: I'm not quite able to follow here -- could you explain further or give an example? I mean, I understand how changes to NQP can affect Rakudo, but I don't

Re: sound distribution practices

2012-04-08 Thread Moritz Lenz
On 04/08/2012 06:53 PM, Alessandro Ghedini wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:09:30AM -0500, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 03:23:26PM +0200, Alessandro Ghedini wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 09:08:21PM -0400, Andrew Whitworth wrote: Btw, this also applies to NQP bundling

Re: sound distribution practices

2012-04-08 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 08:42:21PM +0200, Moritz Lenz wrote: On 04/08/2012 06:53 PM, Alessandro Ghedini wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:09:30AM -0500, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 03:23:26PM +0200, Alessandro Ghedini wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 09:08:21PM -0400,