Re: Elk - another paragon for us

2000-11-17 Thread Ken Fox
I used the Elk 2.x series extensively in several engineering applications I wrote for Ford Motor. It was a nice system in general, but perl's XS (and guts documentation) was much better than Elk's. One of the biggest problems with Elk is that it has a scanning garbage collector, not a ref count

Re: Elk - another paragon for us

2000-11-17 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 09:27 AM 11/17/00 -0800, Ken Fox wrote: When we put scanning garbage collectors into perl, we should provide an alternative for foreign code. We're likely going to have a scanning GC of some sort in perl 6. It'll probably only touch memory perl manages, and there'll be some way to register

Re: Guidelines for internals proposals and documentation

2000-11-17 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 10:19 AM 11/17/00 -0800, Ken Fox wrote: However, I don't want to see early (premature) adoption of fundamental pieces like the VM or parser. It makes sense to me to explore many possible designs and pick and choose between them. Also, if we can keep external API design separate from internal

Re: Guidelines for internals proposals and documentation

2000-11-17 Thread David Grove
Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:19 AM 11/17/00 -0800, Ken Fox wrote: However, I don't want to see early (premature) adoption of fundamental pieces like the VM or parser. It makes sense to me to explore many possible designs and pick and choose between them. Also, if we can

Re: Guidelines for internals proposals and documentation

2000-11-17 Thread John van V
"David Grove" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : But.. but... but... we don't even have a design spec. I mean, we don't even know for sure what Perl 6 is going to look like for certain, inside or outside. This is precisely why I proposed the BS level just below Development. In fact I'm going to