[CVS ci] mmd_vtable 9 - remove bxor vtable entry

2004-05-10 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Things start to get interesting. The first two vtable slots are gone. The dispatch for the Cbxor PMC opcodes is now down fully per MMD. The MMD_BXOR and MMD_BXOR_INT MMD slots are just adjacent entries in the function table. This is the simplest implementation and provides good cache locality

Cygwin problem: -j not working again

2004-05-10 Thread Joshua Gatcomb
The change happened on 2004-05-10 between 07:05 and 07:10 EDT. The files that changed during that time frame are lib/Parrot/Pmc2c.pm lib/Parrot/Vtable.pm classes/ref.pmc classes/sharedref.pmc config/gen/makefiles/root.in Looking at the diffs, the only change I can see is to the bxor MMD stuff

Re: IO opinions -- lines vs records vs streams

2004-05-10 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 10:34 AM +0100 5/10/04, Tim Bunce wrote: On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 04:59:52PM -0700, Jeff Clites wrote: On May 8, 2004, at 10:30 AM, Dan Sugalski wrote: (Note that, regardless of anything else, we do need to separate out stream IO and record IO, both for layer filtering reasons and for pure

Re: [CVS ci] mmd_vtable 9 - remove bxor vtable entry

2004-05-10 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 1:36 PM +0200 5/10/04, Leopold Toetsch wrote: Things start to get interesting. The first two vtable slots are gone. The dispatch for the Cbxor PMC opcodes is now down fully per MMD. The MMD_BXOR and MMD_BXOR_INT MMD slots are just adjacent entries in the function table. This is the simplest

Re: Cygwin problem: -j not working again

2004-05-10 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: parrot -j examples/benchmarks/primes2.pasm exists_keyed() not implemented in class 'PerlInt' Ah. yep. Due to eliminating two vtable functions, other ones after that moved down in table. JIT needs a small adjustment. Fixed. Cheers Joshua Gatcomb

Parrot question repository spot

2004-05-10 Thread Dan Sugalski
I've been trying, with very limited success, to get things documented and questions answered. (Nick's recent issues with parrot and PMCs are just the newest of a long string of stuff) Since success has been limited, and questions either get Warnocked or asked multiple times, I figure it's time

Re: [CVS ci] mmd_vtable 9 - remove bxor vtable entry

2004-05-10 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 1:36 PM +0200 5/10/04, Leopold Toetsch wrote: I think it's now time to review the code a bit and check if the whole concept is sane. Looks OK. Fine. Interesting is the dispatch inside objects. These have a delegate vtable which runs a PASM function.

Re: IO opinions -- lines vs records vs streams

2004-05-10 Thread Jeff Clites
On May 10, 2004, at 7:31 AM, Dan Sugalski wrote: At 10:34 AM +0100 5/10/04, Tim Bunce wrote: On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 04:59:52PM -0700, Jeff Clites wrote: On May 8, 2004, at 10:30 AM, Dan Sugalski wrote: (Note that, regardless of anything else, we do need to separate out stream IO and record

Re: [CVS ci] mmd_vtable 9 - remove bxor vtable entry

2004-05-10 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 5:11 PM +0200 5/10/04, Leopold Toetsch wrote: Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 1:36 PM +0200 5/10/04, Leopold Toetsch wrote: Interesting is the dispatch inside objects. These have a delegate vtable which runs a PASM function. But it could be redispatched before by installing an

Re: Cygwin problem: -j not working again

2004-05-10 Thread Joshua Gatcomb
--- Leopold Toetsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: parrot -j examples/benchmarks/primes2.pasm exists_keyed() not implemented in class 'PerlInt' Ah. yep. Due to eliminating two vtable functions, other ones after that moved down in table. JIT needs a

Re: IO opinions -- lines vs records vs streams

2004-05-10 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 8:31 AM -0700 5/10/04, Jeff Clites wrote: On May 10, 2004, at 7:31 AM, Dan Sugalski wrote: At 10:34 AM +0100 5/10/04, Tim Bunce wrote: On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 04:59:52PM -0700, Jeff Clites wrote: On May 8, 2004, at 10:30 AM, Dan Sugalski wrote: (Note that, regardless of anything else, we

The Right Way Repository

2004-05-10 Thread Dan Sugalski
Since we've really started to get folks going writing compilers for parrot (Woohoo! :) we're running into the perrenial question How the *heck* do I do X with some regularity. Getting these questions answered makes life a *lot* easier when writing compilers, so we should. As such I've started

Re: Cygwin problem: -j not working again

2004-05-10 Thread Joshua Gatcomb
--- Leopold Toetsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: parrot -j examples/benchmarks/primes2.pasm exists_keyed() not implemented in class 'PerlInt' Ah. yep. Due to eliminating two vtable functions, other ones after that moved down in table. JIT needs a

Re: pants ponie performace

2004-05-10 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 11:40:10AM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: So I've fixed that and now it all runs in reasonable time. (As for all its inherent horrors, perl's reference counting pretty much gets it right as to when it's time to free up something) Reasonable time being: perl5.9.1

Re: Cygwin problem: -j not working again

2004-05-10 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 9:39 AM -0700 5/10/04, Joshua Gatcomb wrote: --- Leopold Toetsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: parrot -j examples/benchmarks/primes2.pasm exists_keyed() not implemented in class 'PerlInt' Ah. yep. Due to eliminating two vtable functions, other ones

Re: Cygwin problem: -j not working again

2004-05-10 Thread Joshua Gatcomb
Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Working great now. Not sure why it took so long before I could see the update in CVS. Thanks and please disregard earlier message. Joshua Gatcomb a.k.a. Limbic~Region Ok, I am an idiot. I didn't try the -j option. Still not working as of 12:44PM

Re: pants ponie performace

2004-05-10 Thread Nicholas Clark
I should check my aliases before hitting send, shouldn't I? - Forwarded message from Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk From: Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re: IO opinions -- lines vs records vs streams

2004-05-10 Thread Jeff Clites
On May 10, 2004, at 9:05 AM, Dan Sugalski wrote: At 8:31 AM -0700 5/10/04, Jeff Clites wrote: Also, of course, you can't guarantee that things are atomic at the OS level. That is, if I try to write a large amount of data to a socket, the OS will only take part of that data at a time. Parrot can

Re: P6C: Parser Weirdness

2004-05-10 Thread Steve Fink
On May-09, Abhijit A. Mahabal wrote: On Sat, 8 May 2004, Abhijit A. Mahabal wrote: I was writing a few tests for the P6 parser and ran into a weird problem. If I have the following in a file in languages/perl6, it works as expected: [...] Now, if I put exactly the same contents in

Re: [PATCH: P6C] update calling convention

2004-05-10 Thread Steve Fink
On May-09, Allison Randal wrote: BTW, should I keep working on P6C? As A12 has just come out P6C may be heavily under construction, and I don't want to be in the way... Please do. I'm working on a first rough implementation of classes, but it shouldn't interfere with general patches. I am

Re: P6C: Parser Weirdness

2004-05-10 Thread Abhijit A. Mahabal
On Mon, 10 May 2004, Steve Fink wrote: use File::Basename qw(dirname); use lib dirname($INC{P6C/Parser.pm})./../../../../lib; I had already tried that, and it doesn't seem to work. I guess it is some timing issue: $INC{P6C/Parser.pm} gets defined after P6C::Parser.pm is loaded (I think).

Re: P6C: Parser Weirdness

2004-05-10 Thread Allison Randal
Abhijit A. Mahabal wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2004, Steve Fink wrote: use File::Basename qw(dirname); use lib dirname($INC{P6C/Parser.pm})./../../../../lib; I had already tried that, and it doesn't seem to work. I guess it is some timing issue: $INC{P6C/Parser.pm} gets defined after

Re: P6C: Parser Weirdness

2004-05-10 Thread Joseph Ryan
Steve Fink wrote: Neither of those seems right to me. The first keys off of the position of the binary, which could be anywhere with respect to the library module you're in; the second is relative to whatever the current directory is while you're running the script. I would think that something

Re: P6C: Parser Weirdness

2004-05-10 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 12:34 PM -0500 5/10/04, Allison Randal wrote: And don't forget, this is just a prototype. All the code will be replaced as soon as we get a working grammar engine. I'm not so sure about that. (Not that it won't be replaced, but that it needs the grammar engine) I'm pretty sure that grammars as

Re: Cygwin problem: -j not working again

2004-05-10 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before I posted, I updated again with the latest checkout and saw that I am still having the problem. It has been about an hour since you said it was fixed and I am not seeing it. Is there some CVS trickery I should be doing? Dunno. You can follow

Re: P6C: Parser Weirdness

2004-05-10 Thread Allison Randal
Dan Sugalski wrote: I'm not so sure about that. (Not that it won't be replaced, but that it needs the grammar engine) I'm pretty sure that grammars as Larry's defined 'em are recursive-descent, and if that's true then I've this really nasty feeling we're going to find it insufficiently

Re: Cygwin problem: -j not working again

2004-05-10 Thread Joshua Gatcomb
--- Leopold Toetsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dunno. You can follow CVS updates at the cvs mailing list or at the news group perl.cvs.parrot. Thanks - next time I see fixed and doing a cvs update -dP doesn't pick up the change I will know where to look. It was this 1-liner check in below.

one more note to vtable/MMD patches

2004-05-10 Thread Leopold Toetsch
All of the current and future changes during shifting vtable functions to MMD and deleting vtable entries may break existing PBCs. Any change in the current classes enums, in MMD_func constants ... basically any change in the generated runtime/parrot/include/*.pasm files. I'll update

Re: The Right Way Repository

2004-05-10 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... As such I've started a FAQ in docs/compiler_faq.pod. When I read that file name, I though about gcc, Win32 compilers usable for Parrot. Could be misleading ... leo

Re: pants ponie performace

2004-05-10 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reasonable time being: perl5.9.1 compiled with the same options as ponie uses, and -DPURIFY to force similar malloc() behaviour runs all regression tests: Parrot built optimized? (perl Configure.pl --optimize ...) so about half the speed. Currently

Re: [offtopic] cvs problem

2004-05-10 Thread Jens Rieks
Hi, On Monday 10 May 2004 20:43, Joshua Gatcomb wrote: Thanks - next time I see fixed and doing a cvs update -dP doesn't pick up the change I will know where to look. It was this 1-liner check in below. make testj runs fine now. Oddly enough make testj does not run fine for me. I

Re: Cygwin problem: -j not working again

2004-05-10 Thread Joshua Gatcomb
--- Leopold Toetsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dunno. You can follow CVS updates at the cvs mailing list or at the news group perl.cvs.parrot. Just a hunch but I bet it is a timezone problem. I just did a cvs update -dP -D2004-05-10 23:59, which is in the future for me. It picked up a handful

Re: [PATCH: P6C] update calling convention

2004-05-10 Thread Allison Randal
Dan Sugalski wrote: Might not be out of line to start a notes file or something to throw in observations and whatnot that you and other folks come across as you work on this stuff. I just added languages/perl6/doc/developer_notes.pod, with a few current notes. Add to it as relevant. Allison

Re: Code snippets for the perl 6 compiler

2004-05-10 Thread Allison Randal
Dan Sugalski wrote: I think the first step here is to get the low-level perl operations defined, and their parrot translations worked out. For this I mean that we need to have a list of: Perl: a = b + c; Parrot: add a, b, c I expect things like the foreach loops

build notes (was: Cygwin problem: -j not working again)

2004-05-10 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Leopold Toetsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dunno. You can follow CVS updates at the cvs mailing list or at the news group perl.cvs.parrot. Thanks - next time I see fixed and doing a cvs update -dP doesn't pick up the change I will know where to

State of 'make testj' on Cygwin

2004-05-10 Thread Joshua Gatcomb
Now that I have used a bit of trickery to ensure that I have the absolute latest CVS checkout, things are working again (make test passes all tests). Previously I had only been verifying that -j was working by trying a handful of the examples. This is the result of running 'make testj'. Failed

Re: Cygwin problem: -j not working again

2004-05-10 Thread Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon
Joshua Gatcomb wrote: I will shut up now. One should not be allowed to operate computers when over tired without ample supply of caffeine. You mean there's another way to operate computers? (After spending my teenage years caffeinating and hacking, no caffeine supply is ample anymore.) --

Re: The Right Way Repository

2004-05-10 Thread Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon
Leopold Toetsch wrote: Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... As such I've started a FAQ in docs/compiler_faq.pod. When I read that file name, I though about gcc, Win32 compilers usable for Parrot. Could be misleading ... Index: docs/compiler_faq.pod

5 argument gcd op

2004-05-10 Thread Jens Rieks
Hi, I have written a gcd op that takes 5 arguments (3 out, 2 in) gcd d, x, y, a, b and returns the gcd (in d) of a and b, as well as x and y so that d = gcd(a,b) = x*a + y*b This op can be useful for some cryptographic stuff, should I check it in? I've also written a test for it, as

RE: Cygwin problem: -j not working again [x-adr][x-bayes]

2004-05-10 Thread Garrett Goebel
Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon wrote: Joshua Gatcomb wrote: I will shut up now. One should not be allowed to operate computers when over tired without ample supply of caffeine. You mean there's another way to operate computers? (After spending my teenage years caffeinating and hacking, no

Takers wanted - MANIFEST

2004-05-10 Thread Leopold Toetsch
I think, we have to split the main MANIFEST a bit into: - core - ICU - languages Why? - cvs updates that hit MANIFEST take really long and are likely to collide - language maintainers, who only have privs for their language directory, should be able to do *all* needed changes - we might provide 2

Re: [perl #29402] [BUG] 64-bit bitops

2004-05-10 Thread Adam Thomason
-Original Message- From: Leopold Toetsch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 1:29 AM To: Adam Thomason Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [perl #29402] [BUG] 64-bit bitops Adam Thomason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _main: set I1, 0x shl I1,

Re: [perl #29402] [BUG] 64-bit bitops

2004-05-10 Thread Adam Thomason
-Original Message- From: Adam Thomason Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 7:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [perl #29402] [BUG] 64-bit bitops I haven't managed to beat ICU into submission on AIX yet, so I can't test it out anywhere but AMD64. It's worth

MMD side effects

2004-05-10 Thread Leopold Toetsch
[ For reference the Cbxor opcode is the currently one and only opcode that does MMD ] $ cat e.pasm new P0, .Random new P1, .Random new P2, .PerlInt bxor P2, P0, P1 print P2 print \n end One would expect (and got until yesterday): $ parrot e.pasm bitwise_xor() not implemented

Re: IO opinions -- lines vs records vs streams

2004-05-10 Thread Tim Bunce
On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 04:59:52PM -0700, Jeff Clites wrote: On May 8, 2004, at 10:30 AM, Dan Sugalski wrote: Do we want to make a distinction between record reads and just plain read me X (bytes|codepoints|graphemes) requests on filehandles and, if so, do we think it's worth

Re: Cygwin update

2004-05-10 Thread Joshua Gatcomb
--- Leopold Toetsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joshua Gatcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. All tests are now passing on Cygwin. Are signal and thread tests skipped or running? No, they are both skipped. I am doing a bit more research on this because I had trouble with both threading and a