Re: The Perl 6 Summary

2003-07-21 Thread Adam Turoff
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 03:20:26PM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: Acknowledgements, Announcements and Apologies First of all, I plead insanity for my mistake of last week's summary. PONIE does not stand for 'Perl On New Internal Architecture', it obviously stands for 'Perl On New

Re: Events

2003-07-18 Thread Adam Turoff
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 01:06:03PM -0700, Damien Neil wrote: Also, given that asynchronous IO is a fairly unpopular programming technique these days (non-blocking event-loop IO and blocking threaded IO are far more common), I would think long and hard before placing support for it as a core

Re: [perl #21668] APL doesn't use sigils

2003-03-25 Thread Adam Turoff
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 08:21:51PM -0500, Benjamin Goldberg wrote: And what happens if a programmer wants to have two different variables, of two different types, with the same name, such as @data and %data? Without sigils, it cannot be done. Vast numbers of C, C++, C#, Java, Python, Lisp,

Re: [perl #21668] APL doesn't use sigils

2003-03-25 Thread Adam Turoff
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 09:25:30PM -0500, Benjamin Goldberg wrote: Adam Turoff wrote: On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 08:21:51PM -0500, Benjamin Goldberg wrote: And what happens if a programmer wants to have two different variables, of two different types, with the same name, such as @data

Re: Perl6/Parrot status

2002-02-08 Thread Adam Turoff
On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 08:40:41PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote: [...] I'm also trying to get a regular, if I'm lucky every issue, Parrot/Perl 6 article in The Perl Review. Speaking on behalf of TPR, the only bottleneck here is providing a regular article/update on Parrot/Perl6 for each issue.

Re: Bytecode portablilty

2001-12-10 Thread Adam Turoff
On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 07:46:46PM -0500, Bryan C. Warnock wrote: Proposal: For background, revisit my proposed Bytecode Format (v2) at http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg05640.html. Although it is outdated, is gives a general gist of the direction of my thinking. In particular, pay no heed to the

Re: Parrot FAQ

2001-12-05 Thread Adam Turoff
On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 01:32:32PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote: Right, but FORTH's not an interpreted language, generally speaking. No, but PostScript is. :-) (...as if that wasn't completely obvious...) Z.

Parrot FAQ

2001-12-04 Thread Adam Turoff
The beginnings of a Parrot FAQ can be found here: http://www.panix.com/~ziggy/parrot.html It'll be moved to dev.perl.org shortly, when there's more meat to it. Contents: 1 General Questions 1. What is Parrot? 2. Why Parrot? 3. Is Parrot the

Re: Parrot FAQ

2001-12-04 Thread Adam Turoff
On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 03:20:46PM -0600, Jonathan Scott Duff wrote: On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 04:11:58PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote: Seriously, there are real answers to a whole lot of design questions. Ask 'em and I'll get FAQable answers to 'em once and for all. Could the FAQ be made a

Re: Parrot FAQ

2001-12-04 Thread Adam Turoff
On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 03:26:25PM -0500, Adam Turoff wrote: Expect another update tonight or tomorrow. Here ya go. Same place as last time. 1 General Questions 1. What is Parrot? 2. Why Parrot? 3. Is Parrot the same thing as Perl6? 4

Re: Parrot FAQ

2001-12-04 Thread Adam Turoff
On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 06:29:34PM -0800, Steve Fink wrote: On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 04:11:58PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote: Seriously, there are real answers to a whole lot of design questions. Ask 'em and I'll get FAQable answers to 'em once and for all. Whee! Ok. Some of these are

Re: basic parrot questions

2001-12-03 Thread Adam Turoff
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 08:31:00AM -0800, Terrence Brannon wrote: Also, I thought Parrot was not stack-based If that is the case then why does Overview.pod say this: Registers will be stored in register frames, which can be pushed and popped onto the register stack. For instance, a

Re: What is wrong with GCC's register transfer language?

2001-12-03 Thread Adam Turoff
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 01:20:42PM -0500, Bryan C. Warnock wrote: On Monday 03 December 2001 12:31 pm, Nathan Torkington wrote: Terrence Brannon writes: And then just write a RTL-JVM and RTL-CRL converter? I think it's time to collet these questions into a FAQ. Any volunteers?

Re: Let's not be C-specific even if we use C (was Re: Meta-design)

2000-12-08 Thread Adam Turoff
On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 10:42:31PM -0500, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote: What I seek is perl design documentation that allows someone to take the set of PDD's and reimplement perl in another language. What will aid Perl reimplementations are the PDDs. C-Centrism in the PDDs is a moot point. The

Re: Supporting architectures without native C support (was Re: Meta-design)

2000-12-07 Thread Adam Turoff
On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 10:23:55PM -0500, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote: However, the JVM is a powerful environment for generalized bytecode and for allowing bytecode of different languages to communicate. So's Microsoft vaporware ".NET platform". And the second version of that bytecoded runtime

Re: Proposal for groups

2000-12-04 Thread Adam Turoff
On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 07:56:21AM +, Alan Burlison wrote: How are you going to publish the design? Asking people to follow email discussions and try to piece together what is proposed from that doesn't seem a very optimal way to go about it. How about a design document (format to be

Re: Guidelines for internals proposals and documentation

2000-11-15 Thread Adam Turoff
On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 04:20:58PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote: I want perl 6's internal API to have the same sort of artistic integrity that the language has. That's not, unfortunately, possible with everyone having equal say. I'd like it to be otherwise, but that's just not possible with

Re: Threaded Perl bytecode (was: Re: stackless python)

2000-10-24 Thread Adam Turoff
On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 10:55:29AM -0400, Chaim Frenkel wrote: I don't see it. I would find it extremely akward to allow thread 1: *foo = \one_foo; thread 2: *foo = \other_foo; [...] copy the foo body to a new location. replace the old foo body

Re: Threaded Perl bytecode (was: Re: stackless python)

2000-10-23 Thread Adam Turoff
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 11:03:12AM -0400, Chaim Frenkel wrote: "AT" == Adam Turoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AT It would also mean that if anything was overriden anywhere, no AT module code could be read in as bytecode, since it may need to be AT rethreaded to incorporate overrid

Re: Perl's parser and lexer will likely be in Perl (was Re: RFC 334 (v1) I'm {STILL} trying to understand this...)

2000-10-17 Thread Adam Turoff
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 07:18:54PM -0400, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote: Adam Turoff wrote: to write the Perl tokenizer in a Perl[56] regex, which is more easily parsable in C. All of a sudden, toke.c is replaced by toke.re, which would be much more legible to this community (which is more

Re: Perl's parser and lexer will likely be in Perl (was Re: RFC 334 (v1) I'm {STILL} trying to understand this...)

2000-10-17 Thread Adam Turoff
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 08:57:43PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Adam Turoff wrote: Dammit, I'm not finding the message in the thread, but someone casually mentioned writing the important bits of parsing Perl in Perl5, generating bytecode, and starting Perl6 by writing

Re: RFC 227 (v1) Extend the window to turn on taint mode

2000-09-15 Thread Adam Turoff
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 10:37:40PM -0400, Chaim Frenkel wrote: I vaguely recall when Chip put that in. He worked pretty hard to adjust the command line/#! option processing. (Something about unsafe operations already being done before the script is read.) The crux of my proposal/request is

Re: RFC 227 (v1) Extend the window to turn on taint mode

2000-09-15 Thread Adam Turoff
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 01:04:50PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote: At 01:15 AM 9/15/00 -0400, Adam Turoff wrote: On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 10:37:40PM -0400, Chaim Frenkel wrote: I vaguely recall when Chip put that in. He worked pretty hard to adjust the command line/#! option processing

Re: RFC 227 (v1) Extend the window to turn on taint mode

2000-09-15 Thread Adam Turoff
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 01:03:50PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote: At 04:52 AM 9/15/00 -0400, Michael G Schwern wrote: On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 01:52:00AM -, Perl6 RFC Librarian wrote: =head1 TITLE Extend the window to turn on taint mode As long as we're talking about tainting (this

Re: RFC 227 (v1) Extend the window to turn on taint mode

2000-09-15 Thread Adam Turoff
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 05:04:23PM -0400, Chaim Frenkel wrote: "DS" == Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But these all lack command line switches that are passed to perl. DS No, they don't. Not everywhere, certainly. Command-line switches DS can be passed to all of 'em. Not everyone