Nmake is stupid.
Well, another small post again :) As you see, -C doesn't do anything useful on NMAKE. So Win32 is still broken. The -C way doesn't work. ---snip--- Usage: NMAKE @commandfile NMAKE [options] [/f makefile] [/x stderrfile] [macrodefs] [targets] Options: /A Build all evaluated targets /B Build if time stamps are equal /C Suppress output messages /D Display build information /E Override env-var macros /HELP Display brief usage message /I Ignore exit codes from commands /K Build unrelated targets on error /N Display commands but do not execute /NOLOGO Suppress copyright message /P Display NMAKE information /Q Check time stamps but do not build /R Ignore predefined rules/macros /S Suppress executed-commands display /T Change time stamps but do not build /U Dump inline files /Y Disable batch-mode /? Display brief usage message ---snip--- -Jaen Saul
Re: Nmake is stupid.
At 08:54 PM 12/12/2001 +0200, Jaen Saul wrote: Well, another small post again :) As you see, -C doesn't do anything useful on NMAKE. So Win32 is still broken. The -C way doesn't work. VMS is broken this way too, as is anything without GNU make. We'll get your patches integrated in soon, and a longer-term solution (i.e. a perl make) should be ready not too long after that. Dan --it's like this--- Dan Sugalski even samurai [EMAIL PROTECTED] have teddy bears and even teddy bears get drunk
Re: Nmake is stupid.
On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 01:58:49PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote: At 08:54 PM 12/12/2001 +0200, Jaen Saul wrote: Well, another small post again :) As you see, -C doesn't do anything useful on NMAKE. So Win32 is still broken. The -C way doesn't work. VMS is broken this way too, as is anything without GNU make. We'll get your patches integrated in soon, and a longer-term solution (i.e. a perl make) should be ready not too long after that. Anyone insane enough to try this? http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Make/Make-1.00.tar.gz -- Michael G. Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Perl Quality Assurance [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kwalitee Is Job One Stupid am I? Stupid like a fox!
Re: Nmake is stupid.
At 07:39 PM 12/12/2001 -0500, Michael G Schwern wrote: On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 01:58:49PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote: At 08:54 PM 12/12/2001 +0200, Jaen Saul wrote: Well, another small post again :) As you see, -C doesn't do anything useful on NMAKE. So Win32 is still broken. The -C way doesn't work. VMS is broken this way too, as is anything without GNU make. We'll get your patches integrated in soon, and a longer-term solution (i.e. a perl make) should be ready not too long after that. Anyone insane enough to try this? http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Make/Make-1.00.tar.gz Almost. If we didn't have a replacement almost ready to go, we probably would. Dan --it's like this--- Dan Sugalski even samurai [EMAIL PROTECTED] have teddy bears and even teddy bears get drunk
RE: Nmake is stupid.
Michael G Schwern:
# On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 01:58:49PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote:
# At 08:54 PM 12/12/2001 +0200, Jaen Saul wrote:
# Well, another small post again :)
# As you see, -C doesn't do anything useful on NMAKE. So
# Win32 is still
# broken. The -C way doesn't work.
#
# VMS is broken this way too, as is anything without GNU
# make. We'll get your
# patches integrated in soon, and a longer-term solution
# (i.e. a perl make)
# should be ready not too long after that.
#
# Anyone insane enough to try this?
# http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Make/Make-1.00.tar.gz
I use it whenever nmake is being bitchy and there's no Makefile in dmake
format. Usually works pretty well, except for that extra output:
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktoppmake
Reading C:/Perl/site/lib/Make.pm
Reading C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\makefile
echo yup
yup
However, what I think would be really ideal would be something more
like:
target foo.$o depends(bar.$o, baz.c) {
print yup;
}
In other words, a Perl solution. It would probably have some built-in
functions like:
cc_o(@infiles, $outfile)
cc_so(@infiles, $outfile)
cc_exec(@infiles, $outfile)
runprog($progname, @args) #in case we're building on VMS or something
Thinking about it, this could be implemented as a source filter.
target(foo.$o, sub {print yup}, depends = [bar.$o, baz.c]);
#other targets here
do_the_make_stuff();
A P::RD grammar would probably handle that quite nicely...hmm...
target:
'target' file parameters block
{ qq{target($item{file}, sub $item{block}, $item{parameters}) } }
block:
perl_codeblock
parameters:
parameter(s? / /)
parameter:
paramname '(' filelist ')'
{ qq{'$item{paramname}' = $item{filelist} } }
#etcetera
--Brent Dax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Configure pumpking for Perl 6
Nothing important happened today.
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RE: Nmake is stupid.
At 05:14 PM 12/12/2001 -0800, Brent Dax wrote:
Thinking about it, this could be implemented as a source filter.
target(foo.$o, sub {print yup}, depends = [bar.$o, baz.c]);
#other targets here
do_the_make_stuff();
A P::RD grammar would probably handle that quite nicely...hmm...
The big issue there is bootstrapping--we'd really like to run without
anything fancy enabled, or modules. It could be a rather non-trivial thing
to do. (Of course, we could have the make program generate a static
platform build script for the bootstrap phase, which is likely what we'll
ultimately do)
Dan
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Re: Nmake is stupid.
| patches integrated in soon, and a longer-term solution (i.e. a perl make)
| should be ready not too long after that.
bool query {
Dan, you've been unclear. Is a perl5 based make system
where you want to be today?
}
-R
Re: Nmake is stupid.
At 05:40 PM 12/12/2001 -0800, Robert Spier wrote:
| patches integrated in soon, and a longer-term solution (i.e. a perl make)
| should be ready not too long after that.
bool query {
Dan, you've been unclear. Is a perl5 based make system
where you want to be today?
}
Perl, yes. At the moment perl 5, but we'll morph it over to perl 6 when
we've a working parser for it.
Dan
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Re: Nmake is stupid.
Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 05:40 PM 12/12/2001 -0800, Robert Spier wrote:
| patches integrated in soon, and a longer-term solution (i.e. a perl make)
| should be ready not too long after that.
bool query {
Dan, you've been unclear. Is a perl5 based make system
where you want to be today?
}
Perl, yes. At the moment perl 5, but we'll morph it over to perl 6 when
we've a working parser for it.
What's this when?
make.pl v. ~0.6 committed. It uses a fairly simple line-based parser,
not P::RD. I didn't want to require non-core modules, but we can
certainly take this and morph it into something more perl-like. As a
matter of fact, I would prefer to do this, but doing that would break
GNU make compatibility. Given the HoHoHoHo... data structure I use to
hold dependencies it would be fairly straightforward to map onto
something using P::RD.
--
Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
