Re: Perl's parser and lexer will likely be in Perl (was Re: RFC 334 (v1) I'm {STILL} trying to understand this...)

of subset would be necessary - surely the most useful constructs are also the most complicated... Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/ ... Where has all that spare time just come from? ;-)

Re: Something to hash out

- for executables, perhaps? Lucy McWilliam: .rip? HTH, Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/ ... Fascinating, Captain

JavaVM - ParrotVM

is 1 I reg 1 is 1 I reg 1 is 2 I reg 1 is 3 I reg 1 is 3 I reg 1 is 6 I reg 1 is 4 I reg 1 is 10 I reg 1 is 5 I reg 1 is 15 I reg 1 is 6 I reg 1 is 21 I reg 1 is 7 I reg 1 is 28 I reg 1 is 8 I reg 1 is 36 I reg 1 is 9 I reg 1 is 45 Cool, huh. Much more on this soon! Leon -- Leon Brocard

Re: [patch] First cut at TODO allow add I4, I4, 3 instead of add_i_ic ...

. I'm interested in converting between languages. At the moment I expect to do that using pasm, but the second we have a bytecode-writing module... Look at all these programming languages for the JVM. s/JVM/ParrotVM/ perhaps? http://grunge.cs.tu-berlin.de/~tolk/vmlanguages.html Leon -- Leon

Re: Fibonaci

Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/ ... # Some simple code to print some Fibonacci numbers # Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] print The first 20 fibonacci numbers are:\n set I1, 0 set

[PATCH] Prettier tests

figure out why. HTH, Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/ ... Mr. Worf, blow the Windows-powered Borg ship out of this Universe! Index: t/euclid.pasm

Re: RFC: Bytecode file format

a bit more: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/vmspec/html/ClassFile.doc.html Leon [1] No, attributes aren't limited to four characters. Let's be modern about this... -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com

Microbenchmark JVM-PVM

calling it pvm? parrotvm? -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/ ... I am serious. And don't call me Shirley class Bench { public static void main (String args[]) { int q = 1; int w = 1

Re: Microbenchmark JVM-PVM

blackdown had that. Now a smaller difference: [acme@piglet parrot]$ time java -Xint Bench 16.430u 0.080s 0:18.17 90.8%0+0k 0+0io 5783pf+0w Didn't want to panic you all, Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative Software...http://www.iterative

Re: Op documentation versus implementation

;-)? Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/ ... With a rubber duck, one's never alone

Re: [PATCH] Bytecode bounds checking and TRACE_OPS

bytecode verification stage (before it runs the bytecode). It does some simple checks to see if the bytecode is doing reasonable things (no halting problem here, move along). Something for later, perhaps. Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Iterative Software

Number bug

for inc coming up once this is fixed -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware...http://www.nanoware.org/ ... And he disappeared in a puff of logic

Example assembler code (primes.pasm)

, although Simon's recent article on perl.com was damn good. Leon ps the assembler doesn't grok if I5, NEXT4, NEXT3 or comments on lines which just have labels -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware...http://www.nanoware.org/ ... My

[PATCH] Comment fixes

start filing bug reports in rt if my assembler bugs aren't being fixed? ;-) -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware...http://www.nanoware.org/ ... Have you seen Quasimoto? I have a hunch he's back! Index: basic_opcodes.ops

Re: [PATCH] Comment fixes

Leon Brocard sent the following bits through the ether: Attached are trivial comment fixes for two files. Oh go on, I know we're in a feature freeze but this is a doc patch. Can someone apply these please? Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware

[PATCH] Remove warning when compiling test.c

I get a warning during the Configure process: ... Alright, now I'm gonna check some stuff by compiling and running a small C program. This could take a bit... test.c:13:1: warning: no newline at end of file ... Attached is a trivial patch which adds a newline. Leon -- Leon Brocard

[PATCH] assemble.pl registers go from 0-31

so darn useful. Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware...http://www.nanoware.org/ ... You seem a decent fellow, I hate to kill you Index: assemble.pl === RCS

Re: Suggestion: register liveness information

prefer to have code which does real liveliness calculations and can do real optimisations before we start talking about adding more opcodes ;-) Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware...http://www.nanoware.org/ ... C program run. C

Re: Floating Points and 0.0.2 release

Gibbs Tanton - tgibbs sent the following bits through the ether: For the 0.0.2 release While we're at it: Simon, what do we need to have ready before we release the next version? Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware

Re: Wow.

Bart Lateur sent the following bits through the ether: What underlying graphics engine would you use? I see a great need for OpenGL opcodes (let's forget about arrays and hashes, right?) ;-) Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware

[BUG] Mandlebrot core

greek to me, Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware...http://www.nanoware.org/ ... 1001 Things To Do With Whipped Cream, LGLB (1995)

Re: [BUG] Mandlebrot core

Leon Brocard sent the following bits through the ether: It's all greek to me, Leon The following bytecode: 0075 [01d4]: 0032 0008 000a 0008 gt_nc_ic N8, [nc:10], L2 is wrong. It shouldn't be [nc:10]. 10 is the numeric constant which

Re: [PATCH] Fixes logical ops in Parrot Scheme compiler

and not have to worry about static type inference... Errr, so not yet. But I'll be updating the parrotcode.org examples rsn, honest... Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware...http://www.nanoware.org/ ... Gravity is a myth

Re: java vs. parrot mops

for you I imagine ;-) Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware...http://www.nanoware.org/ Okay - right after this one we're BACK to the TOPIC

Re: java vs. parrot mops

Dan Sugalski sent the following bits through the ether: For the Java-impaired (i.e. me :) what's the -Xint option do? It turns off the JIT (which is enabled by default). Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware...http

Re: Rounding?

# prints 4 print \n set I0, 2 set I1, 2 add I2, I0, I1 print I2 # prints 4 print \n end Hope this helps, Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware...http

Re: [PATCH] mops.pasm

it clear, Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware...http://www.nanoware.org/ Error 404: There is no spoon

[PATCH] mops.pasm

: 108.442655 with -O3: mops.pasm: 17.030964 ./mops: 240.719673 NEW LOOP mops.pasm: 10.647256 ./mops: 73.574232 with -O3: mops.pasm: 15.141514 ./mops: 150.416772 Of course, the benchmark could be improved, but I suggest we should at least change it to be good, tight code ;-) Leon -- Leon

Re: Parrot vs JVM

Leon Brocard sent the following bits through the ether: o JVM is stack-based, Parrot is register-based (major difference!) I forgot to point out that details of the JVM are available at: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/vmspec/2nd-edition/html/VMSpecTOC.doc.html Leon -- Leon Brocard

Re: Parrot FAQ

-- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware...http://www.nanoware.org/ Do not clone your neighbors in their sleep

Re: Java to Parrot

objects and classes. Converting the bytecode isn't the problem, it's converting the Java APIs that is... HTH, Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware...http://www.nanoware.org/ #include witty.f

Re: setline

Dan Sugalski sent the following bits through the ether: We should come up with an alternative for the bytecode files that has the line number info out of band. This is what Java bytecode does. It has an oob offset = line number mapping. Are .pyc the same? Leon -- Leon Brocard

Re: [OT] Parrot Logo

Andy Wardley sent the following bits through the ether: http://andywardley.com/parrot/ That's a wonderful colour! ;-) Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware...http://www.nanoware.org/ High message: 9434567. Message

Re: Various PASM routines

-- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware...http://www.nanoware.org/ It is now pitch dark. If you proceed, you will likely fall into a pit

jvm.ops

attached a fledgling jvm.ops. Does my C code look ok? Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware...http://www.nanoware.org/ (c) The Intergalactic Thought Association /* ** jvm.ops */ VERSION = PARROT_VERSION; =head1 NAME jvm.ops

[PATCH] fix genclass.pl

; } Cheers, Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware...http://www.nanoware.org/ All generalizations are false, including this one - End forwarded message - -- Leon Brocard.http

Re: [COMMIT] Configure.pl 2.0

Sebastian Bergmann sent the following bits through the ether: NMAKE : fatal error U1073: 'config_h.in' konnte nicht erstellt werden Stop. And likewise here on my linux box: make: *** No rule to make target `config_h.in', needed by `Makefile'. Stop. Leon -- Leon Brocard

Re: Parrot and Mono / .Net

. The main problem is that Perl is so dynamic. You can redefine almost anything in Perl at runtime. This means we need a very dynamic virtual machine behind it in order to run Perl (and possibly Ruby, Python) efficiently. Hope this helps, Leon -- Leon Brocard.http

BF interpreter

the patch). A BF compiler would be neat too, of course. Any chance of this going in the languages directory if I provide more docs and examples? Leon ps yes, interpreters for real languages on the way -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware

Re: BF interpreter

-- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware...http://www.nanoware.org/ He who reads many fortunes gets confused

parrotcode.org examples updated

that are never called externally you're welcome to optimise away and ignore the calling conventions] Next update will be PMC examples... Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware...http://www.nanoware.org/ Abandon all hope

Re: [PATCH] perlarray strange behaviour

proper nested datastructures... ;-) Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware...http://www.nanoware.org/ I have seen the evidence. I want DIFFERENT evidence!

Re: Parrot contribution - #parrot stream parser.

? We'll try and help and then add docs or whatever. HTH, Leon ps as it so happens, blogan's question could go into a faq... -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com/ I'd love to go out with you, but I'm

Re: PARROT QUESTIONS: Keyed access

it would make an ideal PMC to learn from in future. Any takers? ;-) Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com/ If this were an actual tagline, it would be funny

Re: RFC - Hashing PMC's albie@alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt

Alberto Manuel Brandão Simões sent the following bits through the ether: This means one more function to the vtable! FWIW every object in Java must implement a hashCode method: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/docs/api/java/lang/Object.html#hashCode() Leon -- Leon Brocard

Re: pmc RECALL command for preprocessor

? Cheers, Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com/ This sentence no verb

Re: minitutorial on submitting patches

that there were a couple of patches which appear to have slipped though the gapes. Patch authors - if you follow the Parrot patch procedure we won't forget your patches! Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http

Perl 6 summary for week ending 2002-07-21

=head1 TITLE Perl 6 summary for week ending 2002-07-21 =head1 AUTHOR Leon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED] =head1 DETAILS Another week, another Perl 6 summary. Cunningly this week I have taken over the summary from Piers in order to make it easier for me to namecheck myself. It's been a good week

Re: [miguel@ximian.com: parrot/mops/mops.cs]

Simon Cozens sent the following bits through the ether: The mops test for C# in the parrot distribution uses long-integers, which are 64-bit values, instead of the 32-bit integers used by the other tests in the directory. Cool. How do we fix it? Change long to int? Leon -- Leon Brocard

Targeting Parrot slides

soon. BTW anyone want to work on getting Parrot to use less memory so it can run on palmtops? ;-) Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com/ Try? Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try

Re: [perl #16874] [BUG] Concatenation failing

Leon Brocard sent the following bits through the ether: I have a weird bug where concatenation is sometimes failing Well, this bug is still here. I saw some patches fly by but which of them is the right patch and can it be applied please? ;-) Leon -- Leon Brocard

Re: [perl #17159] imcc / Mac OS X problem

../../platform.o -lm ld: multiple definitions of symbol _n_spilled imcparser.o definition of _n_spilled in section (__DATA,__common) imc.o definition of _n_spilled in section (__DATA,__common) make: *** [imcc] Error 1 If only I knew more C / linker foo... Cheers, Leon -- Leon Brocard

Re: [perl #17159] imcc / Mac OS X problem

: Undefined symbols: _main make[1]: *** [blib/lib/libparrot.so] Error 1 make: *** [all] Error 2 Thanks, Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com/ Borderline psychotic with hermit-like tendencies

Re: [perl #17159] imcc / Mac OS X problem

Andy Dougherty sent the following bits through the ether: Yup, That's a long-standing bug. Here, again, is the correct fix for it. Cool, finally imcc works. Now, what's the best way to roll in all the patches? Are they the correct fixes? Leon -- Leon Brocard

Perl 6 summary for week beginning 2002-09-30

to the Perl Foundation. Enjoy, Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com/ Bioengineers wear designer genes

Re: [INFO] New array base: list.c

? Or multiarray? Perhaps replacing one of these would be better? Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com/ Useless invention no. 404: Breathable space suit

Re: Hi - Regarding JVM - parrot compatibility

/Java-JVM-Classfile/ In the past couple of weeks I've been wondering whether a hybrid scheme a la Inline::Java where we dispatch stuff to a real JVM may be a faster approach to get running. Why, what exactly did you have in mind? Leon -- Leon Brocard.http

Perl 6 summary for week beginning 2002-10-07

://donate.perl-foundation.org and feed back and/or T?iBooks to me, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. As usual, the fee paid for publication of this summary on perl.com has been donated directly to the Perl Foundation. Enjoy, Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com

Re: C# and Parrot

then it should be fairly easy to target Parrot too (still-to-be-developed-features not withstanding. This is quite interesting indeed, especially if you have a good test suite ;-) I'll try and have a look at it over the weekend. Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot

Re: C# and Parrot

://www.dotgnu.org/pipermail/developers/2002-October/008345.html Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com/ Drive A: format failure, formatting C: instead...

Re: C# and Parrot

Leon Brocard sent the following bits through the ether: It looks like the DotGNU weekly IRC meeting will be discussing Parrot. Could be interesting: It was quite interesting. I managed to make it to the early one and Dan to the later one. An annotated and abridged chatlog is available: http

Re: C# and Parrot

/vmspec/2nd-edition/html/Concepts.doc.html#33377 HTH, Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com/ Cryptonomicon: The girl's guide to geek guys

Re: Adding new function signatures to parrot's NCI call list

I get: Loaded... dlfunced... ../parrot: relocation error: /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0: undefined symbol: pthread_mutexattr_init Well, the C code on the page works fine, but of course you have to link it with -lpthread. How would I do this for the parrot code? Leon -- Leon Brocard

Re: Adding new function signatures to parrot's NCI call list

Dan Sugalski sent the following bits through the ether: pthreads tends to want to be part of the initial program load. FYI adding -lpthreads to C_LIBS and rebuilding parrot makes it work for me. Now to get the hand of the signatures... Leon -- Leon Brocard.http

Curses Life

Leon Brocard sent the following bits through the ether: Now to get the hand of the signatures... Ah, well, I gave up on SDL as it was a little complicated. Instead, I played with curses. Please find attached a cute little curses life program loading and calling curses at runtime with dlfunc

Re: A work list! (Coming soon)

-- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com/ ... You're in a maze of twisty little Java VMs, all different

Re: [perl #20400] [PATCH] ook.pasm eval

with parrot, so it doesn't work. I've attached a patch to config/gen/makefiles/ook.in to make it work with imcc, although I assume we'd want $(IMCC) to work at some point. Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http

Re: Compiling to Parrot

/classpath.html HTH, Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com/ ... Hmm... How *did* they finally kill Frosty?

Re: Parrot Developer Day(s)?

Thanks! Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com/ ... Famous last words - You and what army?

Parrot developer world map

for such a thing? A room, at least one computer, an internet connection and a Plan? Are you looking to learn more about Parrot or do you have something more specific in mind? Leon ps feel free to send in your location if you've forgotten to: -- Leon Brocard.http

Re: A couple easy questions...

set P1, P0[1] typeof S0, P1 print S0 print \n end Leon ps i fixed your code -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com/ ... Useless invention no. 404: Inflatable anchor

0.1.0

numbers? It'd be nice to have objects, otherwise we're restricted to toy languages. Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com/ ... Komputors nefer maik erers

Re: 0.1.0

languages, and that gives away the fact that objects would help in their implementation. Objects are coming, though I've been too pressed for time recently. String rework first, then objects. Excellent. Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot

Re: About RT/Perl

Alberto Sim?es/EPL sent the following bits through the ether: Anybody can tell me the address for RT/perl software? http://rt.perl.org/ is what you should be using to submit bugs (and patches!) HTH, Leon ps it runs http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/ -- Leon Brocard

Re: [perl #22873] gentoo ebuild ... problem..

for the bug report. I've patched parrot in CVS to use perldoc -U. To be honest, I'm not entirely sure that any of us actually install parrot at the moment, but it is a great area to investigate. Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot

Re: [perl #22873] gentoo ebuild ... problem..

CVS commit too :-( -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com/ ... 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

ponie

I just noticed that nobody had emailed perl6-internals about ponie, which was announced yesterday as OSCON. Ponie is perl 5 on parrot. For more info: http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/09/0237202 Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot

Re: [perl #23005] [PATCH] Parrot_sprintf not recognizing 7 in precision

mrnobo1024 sent the following bits through the ether: Parrot_sprintf isn't recognizing 7 as a number in the precision field, so trying to use that results in a '7' is not a valid sprintf format error. Thanks, patch applied. Leon -- Leon Brocard.http

Re: [perl #23085] [PATCH] Off by one error in exceptions.c

J?rgen B?mmels sent the following bits through the ether: The offending line is exceptions.c:123 if (m[strlen(m-1)] != '\n') Thanks, applied. Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com

Re: subroutines and python status

things becoming dead-ends. How much work do you think it'd be to extend it some more and update it to latest Lua? Would it be worth checking this into parrot CVS? Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com

Re: Approaching m4

;-) We've used the Perl testing framework (Test::Harness, eg: 1..1\nok 1) in the main parrot test suite. It's working well for Perl and a Parrot version of it might be nice idea... Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http

Re: Missing Ops

idea. We can always move the logic into the assembler later if we decide to prune ops. ObLeonBrocard: he just be restin', arrr -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com/ ... I was young, I needed the money

Re: The Great Renaming

Brent Dax sent the following bits through the ether: Are there any objections to this? Sounds good. For embedding (eg Ponie), we're going to have to make sure that all symbols start with parrot_ / Parrot_... Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot

Re: Objects and time

Dan Sugalski sent the following bits through the ether: So, the question--shall we do objects and maybe miss the Feb 29th release, or do the Feb 29th release and do objects for the next release? Objects please! Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com

Re: Fwd: TALK:4-5-04 A (Grand?) Unified Theory of Storage Reclamation

Dan Sugalski sent the following bits through the ether: A (Grand?) Unified Theory of Storage Reclamation Slides here: http://www.research.ibm.com/people/d/dfb/talks/Bacon04Grand.ppt Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot

[PATCH] remove unused parameter from pbc.c

Removes a warning. Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com/ ... We're not worthy! We're not worthy! Index: imcc/pbc.c === RCS file: /cvs

[PATCH] longness in pf_items.c

On our shiny 64-bit Opteron box I get a warning here. This silences the warning. Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com/ ... Borg? Where? I don't se*(#$#..NO CARRIER Index: pf/pf_items.c

Re: [PATCH] signals under x86_64

Leopold Toetsch sent the following bits through the ether: Is this available on e.g. Windows? Possibly, it's just POSIX. I have no way to test this however. Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com

Re: [PATCH] remove unused parameter from pbc.c

Leopold Toetsch sent the following bits through the ether: Both interpreter and unit aren't unused, if JIT is enabled. Changed a bit. Ooh. Oops. Anyway, warnings bad. Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http

Re: ICU Outdated - Ideas

issues, this might be an interesting thing to look at. Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com/ ... Better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot

Re: The new Perl 6 compiler pumpking

Dan Sugalski sent the following bits through the ether: I'd like everyone to give a welcome to Patrick Michaud, who's volunteered to officially take charge of getting the Perl 6 compiler module written. Welcome Patrick! What's your plan of attack? Leon -- Leon Brocard