Re: C style conditional statements

2004-05-12 Thread Stéphane Payrard
Le Wed, May 12, 2004 at 02:00:42AM +0200, le valeureux mongueur Pedro Larroy a dit: Hi Is there any chance that in perl6 there will be the possibility to write if/else statements without {}s with the condition at the beginning? Like if (condition) statement; In order not to

Re: C style conditional statements

2004-05-12 Thread Matthew Walton
Stéphane Payrard wrote: Le Wed, May 12, 2004 at 02:00:42AM +0200, le valeureux mongueur Pedro Larroy a dit: Hi Is there any chance that in perl6 there will be the possibility to write if/else statements without {}s with the condition at the beginning? Like if (condition) statement; In

Re: C style conditional statements

2004-05-12 Thread Pedro Larroy
On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 12:57:15AM -0400, Andrew Rodland wrote: On Tuesday 11 May 2004 10:13 pm, Larry Wall wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 08:31:55PM -0400, Andrew Rodland wrote: : On Tuesday 11 May 2004 08:00 pm, Pedro Larroy wrote: : Hi : : Is there any chance that in perl6 there

Re: C style conditional statements

2004-05-12 Thread Luke Palmer
Pedro Larroy writes: Yes, thanks a lot for your answers. I appreciate them. I think I'm now pretty attached to perl culture and I'm just a little worried, as a humble perl programmer, about things changing too much in perl6. Specially after reading coments like getting rid of the parens

Re: C style conditional statements

2004-05-12 Thread Simon Cozens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luke Palmer) writes: familiar. You'll find this in the earlier Exegeses, Piers Cawley's article Perl 6: Not Just for Damians (http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2001/10/23/damians.html), some of the presentations from the last few conference seasons, and scattered about the

Re: C style conditional statements

2004-05-12 Thread Larry Wall
On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 09:47:04AM +0100, Matthew Walton wrote: : For some reason, lots of people don't like it when indentation is : what's controlling their code structure... Indentation is a wonderful form of commentary from programmer to programmer, but its symbology is largely wasted on the

Re: C style conditional statements

2004-05-12 Thread Larry Wall
On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 09:47:04AM +0100, Matthew Walton wrote: : although it might perhaps be a little early to go for Python-like syntax. s/early/late/ Python's syntax succeeds in combining the mistakes of Lisp and Fortran. I do not contrue that as progress. Larry

Re: C style conditional statements

2004-05-12 Thread Aaron Sherman
On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 11:22, Simon Cozens wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luke Palmer) writes: familiar. You'll find this in the earlier Exegeses, Piers Cawley's article Perl 6: Not Just for Damians (http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2001/10/23/damians.html), some of the presentations from the last

Re: C style conditional statements

2004-05-12 Thread Juerd
Aaron Sherman skribis 2004-05-12 14:04 (-0400): Perl 5: #!/usr/bin/perl while() { s/\w+/WORD/g; print; } Perl 6: #!/usr/bin/perl while $stdin.getline - $_ { Empty uses ARGV, not STDIN. It only uses STDIN if not @ARGV

Re: C style conditional statements

2004-05-12 Thread Matthew Walton
Larry Wall wrote: On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 09:47:04AM +0100, Matthew Walton wrote: : For some reason, lots of people don't like it when indentation is : what's controlling their code structure... Indentation is a wonderful form of commentary from programmer to programmer, but its symbology is

Re: C style conditional statements

2004-05-12 Thread Larry Wall
On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 08:15:36PM +0200, Juerd wrote: : A2 says $*STDIN and $*STDOUT. Has this been changed? It's $*IN and $*OUT. : Also, will there no longer be the concept of a selected filehandle? That is correct. : I'd hate to have to specify stdin and stdout in throw away scripts. Just

Re: C style conditional statements

2004-05-12 Thread Luke Palmer
Aaron Sherman writes: Right off the bat, let me say that I've read A1-6, E7, A12, S3, S6, E1, E6 and much of this mailing list, but I'm still not sure that all of what I'm going to say is right. Please correct me if it's not. Did you really need to ask me to? ;-) Perl 5:

Re: C style conditional statements

2004-05-12 Thread Juerd
Larry Wall skribis 2004-05-12 11:39 (-0700): On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 08:15:36PM +0200, Juerd wrote: : A2 says $*STDIN and $*STDOUT. Has this been changed? It's $*IN and $*OUT. I like this change! : I'd hate to have to specify stdin and stdout in throw away scripts. Just because there's no

Re: C style conditional statements

2004-05-12 Thread Juerd
Luke Palmer skribis 2004-05-12 12:46 (-0600): Well, the IO-objects are iterators, and you use $iter to iterate. It makes sense that would iterate over $*ARGV by default. $*ARGS? my $n = new IO::Socket::INET: LocalPort = 20010, Listen = 5; I'd like to be able[1] to write my $n =

Re: C style conditional statements

2004-05-12 Thread Luke Palmer
Matthew Walton writes: Juerd wrote: my $n = IO::Socket::INET.new LocalPort = 20010, Listen = 5; Or, if I'm remembering correctly: my IO::Socket::INET $n .= new LocalPort = 20010, Listen = 5; I really hope I'm remembering correctly. Is this turning into the 'look how great Perl 6

Re: C style conditional statements

2004-05-12 Thread Simon Cozens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron Sherman) writes: is it really that new and scary? No, but not for the reasons you think. You seem to believe that you're comparing Perl and a Perl-derived language and pointing out that they're both like Perl, but it looks like you're comparing two Algol-derived

Re: C style conditional statements

2004-05-11 Thread Andrew Rodland
On Tuesday 11 May 2004 08:00 pm, Pedro Larroy wrote: Hi Is there any chance that in perl6 there will be the possibility to write if/else statements without {}s with the condition at the beginning? Like if (condition) statement; In order not to break traditional C culture. Is there

Re: C style conditional statements

2004-05-11 Thread Larry Wall
On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 08:31:55PM -0400, Andrew Rodland wrote: : On Tuesday 11 May 2004 08:00 pm, Pedro Larroy wrote: : Hi : : Is there any chance that in perl6 there will be the possibility to write : if/else statements without {}s with the condition at the beginning? : : Like : : if

Re: C style conditional statements

2004-05-11 Thread Andrew Rodland
On Tuesday 11 May 2004 10:13 pm, Larry Wall wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 08:31:55PM -0400, Andrew Rodland wrote: : On Tuesday 11 May 2004 08:00 pm, Pedro Larroy wrote: : Hi : : Is there any chance that in perl6 there will be the possibility to : write if/else statements without {}s