Re: State of Design Documents

2005-06-15 Thread Christian Renz
Not really, except insofar as we've talked about compact classes of native types working like C structs. There are lots of nitty things we can fix with pack/unpack, but the basic underlying problem is that pack/unpack are defined operationally rather than declaratively. I think it's worth takin

Re: State of Design Documents

2005-06-14 Thread Joshua Gatcomb
On 6/14/05, Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heh, that classification was a fast guess about RFCs made more than > 4 years ago. I'm amazed it's stood up as well as it has, even where > it hasn't. I agree, and lacking anything I could find more recent, initially thought it was the right way

Re: State of Design Documents

2005-06-14 Thread Larry Wall
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 09:38:43AM -0400, Joshua Gatcomb wrote: : On 6/13/05, Patrick R. Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : : > Since it might not have been clear from my earlier post -- I've : > now committed the S17 framework draft into the repository. Thanks. : : I am now questioning using

Re: State of Design Documents

2005-06-14 Thread Joshua Gatcomb
On 6/13/05, Patrick R. Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since it might not have been clear from my earlier post -- I've > now committed the S17 framework draft into the repository. Thanks. I am now questioning using "Perl6 Timeline By Apocolypse" as reference material. I am rather intereste

Re: State of Design Documents

2005-06-13 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 02:22:59PM -0500, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:36:52PM -0400, Joshua Gatcomb wrote: > > > I have included a sample framework for chapter 17. Theoretically, > > someone could then go search the archives for decision points in any > > of those headi

Re: State of Design Documents

2005-06-13 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 02:22:59PM -0500, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:36:52PM -0400, Joshua Gatcomb wrote: > > Ok, are there any guidelines for what should and should not be put > > forward as a patch. > [...] > For anything that doesn't come from @Larry or $Larry, I th

Re: State of Design Documents

2005-06-13 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:36:52PM -0400, Joshua Gatcomb wrote: > Ok, are there any guidelines for what should and should not be put > forward as a patch. I can see 3 key areas of concern: > > 1. Framework for unwritten Synopses (so we know what goes where) > 2. Heading placeholders for written

Re: State of Design Documents

2005-06-10 Thread Joshua Gatcomb
On 6/10/05, Joshua Gatcomb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmmm. Thanks. I guess I will have to go back over the questions I > have asked and see if any decisions were rendered not relfected in > docs and be a pioneer. Ok, are there any guidelines for what should and should not be put forward as a

Re: State of Design Documents

2005-06-10 Thread Joshua Gatcomb
On 6/10/05, Patrick R. Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This already exists -- the design documents are all available from > http://svn.perl.org/perl6/doc/trunk . And I've already volunteered > to review/apply patches to the design documents or forward them to > the appropriate people for rev

Re: State of Design Documents

2005-06-10 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 12:51:15PM -0400, Joshua Gatcomb wrote: > I know that decisions are subject to change but having the current > state of decisions in a single location (Synopses) would be a great > benefit to all. I am a firm believer in not complaining unless you > have an idea about how t

State of Design Documents

2005-06-10 Thread Joshua Gatcomb
All: Designing a language isn't easy - I get that. Opening up the design process to the entire community and filtering everyone's "good" ideas certainly doesn't make this any easier. My concern is that these difficulties are being aggravated because the design documents (Synopses) are not kept up