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A lot of your message revolves around this idea that there's a "normal
file open" semantic. What I've tried (but clearly failed) to articulate
previously is that this notion is becoming archaic in what is sh
On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 08:19:05AM -0400, Aaron Sherman wrote:
: "open" as a verb is extremely ambiguous. In dictionary searches I see as
: many as 19 definitions just for the verb form.
Well, sure, but also need to take Perl history into account, where dwimmy
open is considered something of a lia
On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 15:15, Aaron Sherman wrote:
> Dash this all on the rocks if you want, but understand that this is not
> an off-the-cuff reply, but something that I've spent a lot of time
> mulling over
[...]
> First off, IMHO, open should be an alias for a closure-wrapped
> constructor, like
On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 12:31, Larry Wall wrote:
> On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 10:14:34AM +0300, Gaal Yahas wrote:
> : On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 11:44:58PM -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
> : > : How do I open a file named "-"?
[...]
> : > $fh = io("-");
> : > $fh = open "-";
> : My concern is again with
fault. There has to be a safe mode for opening a file and knowing
: that's what you're opening: not a pipe, not stdio (hence there are places
: I can't permit myself to use #1). But as your third example suggests,
: never allowing open "-" will make unixish tools ted
On 5/5/05, Gaal Yahas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 01:32:56AM -0600, Luke Palmer wrote:
> > And I don't think arguing in the name of "security" for the default
> > case is going to buy us anything. Security doesn't come in scripts in
> > any language for free; you have to w
On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 01:32:56AM -0600, Luke Palmer wrote:
> On 5/5/05, Gaal Yahas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > getopt(...);
> > $fh = open $in, :allowstdio;
>
> Maybe the opposite:
>
> $fh = open $in, :literal;
>
> One of the nice things about the magical "-" behavior is that p
;-";
> $fh = $name eq '-' ?? $*IN :: open $name;
My concern is again with magic control. I've no gripes with the first
or last of those, but I think the second should not be allowed by
default. There has to be a safe mode for opening a file and knowing
that's what you&#x
On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 08:39:52AM +0300, Gaal Yahas wrote:
: How do I open a file named "-"?
Um, depending on what you mean, and whether we continue to support
the '=' pseudofile, maybe:
$fh = io("-");
or
$fh = open "-";
or
$fh = $name eq '-' ?? $*IN :: open $name;
: How do I op
How do I open a file named "-"? How do I open stdout (and the other
standard handles)?
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