Re: Apoc2 - STDIN concerns

2001-05-06 Thread Peter Scott

At 01:51 AM 5/6/01 +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
The debate rages on: Is Perl Bactrian or Dromedary?

It's a Dromedary, it says so in the Colophon.

But maybe the symbol of Perl 6 should be a Bactrian, with the extra hump 
symbolizing the increased power.

You knew this was coming...

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Re: So, we need a code name...

2001-05-06 Thread Dan Brian

For your collective amuse() abuse() dismiss() I humbly submit:

  duran (or derivatives)

Aside from conjuring images of reflex, rio, and maybe Barbarella
for a select few, the word occurs in some interesting contexts. It means
little aside from it being a last name, a city name, and bearing
resemblence to some neat stuff. One bummer is the likeness to
AMD's Duron. *shrug* 

Relations are up to you to draw, so read between the lines. Just don't ask
why I looked it all up. It is, in fact, a totally unrelated story which
has kept me up all night. Connectionist pride.

Similar to:

  1. Latin dura (Italian, Spanish also): hard, solid, durable. Also
 Latin durare, last to endure. 
  2. Dura the circle, where Nebuchadnezzar set up a golden image near 
 Babylon (Daniel 3:1). Still exists, and still bears the ancient name,
 which is something. The city is Dura in Syria, rebuilt many times
 over a thousand years, as a military colony by the Seleucids, a
 caravan city around 100 BC by the Parthians, and a frontier fort in
 AD 165 by the Romans. Home of the only extant Christian community
 meeting or assembly house from the 3rd century, earliest example of 
 Christian community religious gathering.
  3. Radiodurans, a form of pseudomonas bacterium (pseudomonas are
 able to use virtually any organic molecule as a source of carbon and 
 of energy). Radiodurans are an extreme environment lifeform,
 thriving at the cores of swimming-pool nuclear reactors (to the 
 annoyance of plant physicists). This one is long and interesting.
  4. The prefix deru-, solid, firm, steadfast. Has variants in Old
 English, Old Norse, and Greek, Latin, and Sanskrit.

Names (Duran):

  1. (b. 1350) Jewish philosopher, linguist, and satirist, compelled to
 Christianity and later resumed Judaic worship. Known for his
 scholarly writings on Hebrew grammar.
  2. (b. 1361) First Spanish Jewish rabbi to be paid a regular salary by
 the community. Reduced Thirteen Articles of Faith of Moses Maimonides 
 to three essential dogmas. He was a synergist. ;-)




Re: list logs?

2001-05-06 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Sun, 6 May 2001, Dan Brian wrote:

 Logs on archive.develooper.com for p6l and p5p haven't been written to
 since 4/27. I assume somebody is already looking at it, or updates are
 scheduled for longer periods than before?

I haven't had time to get them updating again since I moved the
perl.org mail to the new box.

real soon now, real soon now.

 - ask

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list logs?

2001-05-06 Thread Dan Brian

Logs on archive.develooper.com for p6l and p5p haven't been written to
since 4/27. I assume somebody is already looking at it, or updates are
scheduled for longer periods than before?




Re: So, we need a code name...

2001-05-06 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi

On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 01:31:17AM -0600, Dan Brian wrote:
 For your collective amuse() abuse() dismiss() I humbly submit:
 
   duran (or derivatives)
 
 Aside from conjuring images of reflex, rio, and maybe Barbarella
 for a select few, the word occurs in some interesting contexts. It means
 little aside from it being a last name, a city name, and bearing
 resemblence to some neat stuff. One bummer is the likeness to
 AMD's Duron. *shrug* 

durian.

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Re: So, we need a code name...

2001-05-06 Thread Peter Scott

At 08:33 AM 5/6/01 -0500, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 01:31:17AM -0600, Dan Brian wrote:
  For your collective amuse() abuse() dismiss() I humbly submit:
 
duran (or derivatives)
 
  Aside from conjuring images of reflex, rio, and maybe Barbarella
  for a select few, the word occurs in some interesting contexts. It means
  little aside from it being a last name, a city name, and bearing
  resemblence to some neat stuff. One bummer is the likeness to
  AMD's Duron. *shrug*

durian.

You want to name it after a fruit smelling of dead cows and sewer gas?
--
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http://www.perldebugged.com




Re: So, we need a code name...

2001-05-06 Thread Michael G Schwern

On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 11:51:27AM -0700, Peter Scott wrote:
 durian.
 
 You want to name it after a fruit smelling of dead cows and sewer gas?

  durian
   n 1: tree of southeastern Asia having edible oval fruit with a
hard spiny rind [syn: {durion}, {durian tree}, {Durio
zibethinus}]
   2: huge fruit native to southeastern Asia `smelling like Hell
  and tasting like Heaven'; seeds are roasted and eaten like
  nuts

I think that's rather descriptive of Perl in general.  Its huge, hard
on the outside, soft on the inside, smells really nasty but if you're
brave enough (or dumb enough) to take a bite it tastes wonderful.

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Re: So, we need a code name...

2001-05-06 Thread Dan Brian

   durian
n 1: tree of southeastern Asia having edible oval fruit with a
 hard spiny rind [syn: {durion}, {durian tree}, {Durio
 zibethinus}]
2: huge fruit native to southeastern Asia `smelling like Hell
   and tasting like Heaven'; seeds are roasted and eaten like
   nuts
 
 I think that's rather descriptive of Perl in general.  Its huge, hard
 on the outside, soft on the inside, smells really nasty but if you're
 brave enough (or dumb enough) to take a bite it tastes wonderful.

I agree. Especially considering the language-independence of the parser
being planned. Besides the meaning, it's a rather cool word all by itself.




Re: So, we need a code name...

2001-05-06 Thread Peter Scott

At 08:27 PM 5/6/01 +0100, Michael G Schwern wrote:
   durian
n 1: tree of southeastern Asia having edible oval fruit with a
 hard spiny rind [syn: {durion}, {durian tree}, {Durio
 zibethinus}]
2: huge fruit native to southeastern Asia `smelling like Hell
   and tasting like Heaven'; seeds are roasted and eaten like
   nuts

I think that's rather descriptive of Perl in general.  Its huge, hard
on the outside, soft on the inside, smells really nasty but if you're
brave enough (or dumb enough) to take a bite it tastes wonderful.

Have you seen one?  Hard as a rock and covered with spikes.  If one fell on 
you from more than three feet it would spell instant death, which would 
probably be more merciful than being exposed to the smell.

Grocers either stock them outside or frozen.

It's not what I'd call a positive image :-)
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Pacific Systems Design Technologies
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Re: Apo2: \Q ambiguity

2001-05-06 Thread Michael G Schwern

On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 10:23:18PM +0200, Johan Vromans wrote:
 Larry Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I won't tell you what I had to go through just to get those two
  characters into this message, and they're still only in Latin-1.
 
 Compose   and an average version of X.

Hmmm, maybe you can point out the compose key on my keyboard, I
can't find it. ;)

I know what Larry went through.  I had to do quite a bit of work just
to be able to type a £ symbol.  I wound up remapping my 'option' key
(that's 'alt' to you non-Mac people) to £.  I still haven't managed to
get my xterms to display it right and had to switch from my normal
Clean font in emacs because it doesn't support high ascii to Neep.

Stupid American Computers aren't quite ready for the Unicode invasion.


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Re: So, we need a code name...

2001-05-06 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi

On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 11:51:27AM -0700, Peter Scott wrote:
 At 08:33 AM 5/6/01 -0500, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
 On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 01:31:17AM -0600, Dan Brian wrote:
   For your collective amuse() abuse() dismiss() I humbly submit:
  
 duran (or derivatives)
  
   Aside from conjuring images of reflex, rio, and maybe Barbarella
   for a select few, the word occurs in some interesting contexts. It means
   little aside from it being a last name, a city name, and bearing
   resemblence to some neat stuff. One bummer is the likeness to
   AMD's Duron. *shrug*
 
 durian.
 
 You want to name it after a fruit smelling of dead cows and sewer gas?

Oy!  *I* didn't suggest the Duran name :-)

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Re: Apoc2 - STDIN concerns

2001-05-06 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi

On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 10:10:24PM +0200, Bart Lateur wrote:
 On Sat, 5 May 2001 15:22:40 -0700, Nathan Wiger wrote:
 
  I suggest
 that we simply create another q-op to do the qw-ish things you're proposing.
 Perhaps qi() for interpolate or something else.
 
   qqw

Why I'm reminded of car, cdr, cadr, cdar, cddar, cadar, ...

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