Re: Proposal: split ternary ?? :: into binary ?? and //

2005-09-06 Thread Damian Conway
Luke wrote: Not that being explicit is always a bad thing: $val = some_cond() ?? ($arg1 // $arg1_default) // ($arg2 // $arg2_default) No. What's a bad thing is creating new linguistic traps for when people inevitably forget to be explicit. And I question

Re: Proposal: split ternary ?? :: into binary ?? and //

2005-09-06 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 07:26:37AM +1000, Damian Conway wrote: Thomas Sandlass wrote: I'm still contemplating how to get rid of the :: in the ternary Comments? I believe that the single most important feature of the ternary operator is that it is ternary. That is, unlike an if-else

RE: Proposal: split ternary ?? :: into binary ?? and //

2005-09-06 Thread Thomas Sandlass
HaloO, Luke wrote: ?? !! ain't bad either. It's definitely much better that sabotaging the (highly useful) // operator within (highly useful) ternaries. I guess the thing that I really think is nice is getting :: out of that role and into the type-only domain. Right. To make ::

Re: Proposal: split ternary ?? :: into binary ?? and //

2005-09-06 Thread Luke Palmer
On 9/6/05, Thomas Sandlass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right. To make :: indicate type or meta was my primary concern. Okay, now why don't you tell us about this new binary :: you're proposing. Luke

Re: multisub.arity?

2005-09-06 Thread Damian Conway
H. The arity of a given multi might be 3 or 4 or 5. If *only* there were a way to return a single value that was simultaneously any of 3 or 4 or 5. Oh, wait a minute... Damian

Re: multisub.arity?

2005-09-06 Thread Luke Palmer
On 9/3/05, Damian Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H. The arity of a given multi might be 3 or 4 or 5. If *only* there were a way to return a single value that was simultaneously any of 3 or 4 or 5. Oh, wait a minute... Well, we'd better document that pretty damn well then, and provide

Re: multisub.arity?

2005-09-06 Thread Juerd
Luke Palmer skribis 2005-09-06 13:28 (+): Well, we'd better document that pretty damn well then, and provide min_arity and max_arity, too. Won't junctions do Array, then? I think foo.arity.max would be very intuitive, and likewise, for @foo.arity { ... } Juerd --

RE: Proposal: split ternary ?? :: into binary ?? and //

2005-09-06 Thread Thomas Sandlass
HaloO, Luke wrote: Okay, now why don't you tell us about this new binary :: you're proposing. Well, not a new one. Just plain old foo::bar::blahh and 'my ::blubb $x' with relaxed whitespace rules. The ternary ?? :: is a splinter in my mind's eye because it is not a compile time or symbol lookup

Re: multisub.arity?

2005-09-06 Thread Yuval Kogman
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 13:28:24 +, Luke Palmer wrote: This should still work: sub map (code, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) { gather { my @args = @list.splice(0, code.arity); take code([EMAIL PROTECTED]); } } multi sub foo ( ... ) {

Re: Proposal: split ternary ?? :: into binary ?? and //

2005-09-06 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 04:57:30PM +0200, Thomas Sandlass wrote: There's yet another approach, to make ternary listfix: $val = $cond ?? true ?? false; So ^^ that one doesn't do the same thing as ^^ that one? I'd find that confusing in itself.

Re: multisub.arity?

2005-09-06 Thread Austin Hastings
On a related note: Suppose I have a function with a non-obvious arity: I might, in a desperate attempt to find billable hours, describe the arity as a trait: sub sandwich($bread, $meat, $cheese, $condiment1, $qty1, ...) does arity ({ 3 + 2 * any(1..Inf); }); That's cougheasy enough for

\(...)?

2005-09-06 Thread Ingo Blechschmidt
Hi, # Perl 5 my @array_of_references = \($foo, $bar, $baz); print [EMAIL PROTECTED];# prints 3 print ${ $array_of_references[1] }; # prints $bar # Perl 6 my @array = \($foo, $bar, $baz); say [EMAIL PROTECTED]; # 3 (like Perl 5)? # Or 1, making \(...)

Packages, Modules and Classes

2005-09-06 Thread Stevan Little
Hey all, I recently added Package and Module into the MetaModel (2.0) so that Package is an Object Module is a Package Class is a Module as mentioned here http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.perl.perl6.language/4599. Currently Packages have names and Modules add version and

Re: \(...)?

2005-09-06 Thread Juerd
Ingo Blechschmidt skribis 2005-09-06 19:46 (+0200): If \(...) still constructs a list of references, are the following assumptions correct? IIRC, the RHS of \ is in scalar context, and the comma in scalar context (the parens are just for precedence), creates an arrayref. Which is interesting

Re: \(...)?

2005-09-06 Thread Ingo Blechschmidt
Hi, Juerd wrote: Ingo Blechschmidt skribis 2005-09-06 19:46 (+0200): If \(...) still constructs a list of references, are the following assumptions correct? IIRC, the RHS of \ is in scalar context, and the comma in scalar context (the parens are just for precedence), creates an arrayref.

Re: multisub.arity?

2005-09-06 Thread Damian Conway
Luke wrote: Well, we'd better document that [junctive arity values] pretty damn well then, and provide min_arity and max_arity, too. Unnecessary. The Cmax and Cmin builtins should be overloaded to Just Work on junctive values: if min code.arity 2 {...} This is one of those places