Re: propose renaming Hash to Dict

2007-06-01 Thread Mark J. Reed
On 6/1/07, Ruud H.G. van Tol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: John Macdonald schreef: > "hash > browned potatos" which is a hash of chopped potato, onion, > and sometimetimes other things fried brown. It's usually "hash browns" or "hashed browns", and I've always assumed the former to be a shortened

Re: propose renaming Hash to Dict

2007-06-01 Thread Ruud H.G. van Tol
John Macdonald schreef: > "hash > browned potatos" which is a hash of chopped potato, onion, > and sometimetimes other things fried brown. That comes from the French haché, meaning chopped. Best with lots of small pieces of beef in it as well. -- Groet, Ruud

Re: propose renaming Hash to Dict

2007-06-01 Thread Chas Owens
On 6/1/07, Doug McNutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 09:15 -0700 6/1/07, Larry Wall wrote: >: To conclude, as hash definitely tastes better than a dictionary, we >: should stick to that name. ;) >: >: At least nobody can say that Perl is bad taste! > >Then maybe we should rename Array to Skewer o

[svn:perl6-synopsis] r14412 - doc/trunk/design/syn

2007-06-01 Thread larry
Author: larry Date: Fri Jun 1 12:44:27 2007 New Revision: 14412 Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S06.pod Log: note that parsed/reparsed also influences whether trailing bracket is assumed Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S06.pod ==

Re: propose renaming Hash to Dict

2007-06-01 Thread Doug McNutt
At 09:15 -0700 6/1/07, Larry Wall wrote: >: To conclude, as hash definitely tastes better than a dictionary, we >: should stick to that name. ;) >: >: At least nobody can say that Perl is bad taste! > >Then maybe we should rename Array to Skewer or Kabob or some such... > >Hmm, except it's hard to

Re: propose renaming Hash to Dict

2007-06-01 Thread Larry Wall
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 06:52:37AM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote: : On 6/1/07, Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : >Nope. Hash is mostly about meaning, and very little about implementation. : >Please don't assume that I name things according to Standard Names in : >Computer Science. I name things

Re: propose renaming Hash to Dict

2007-06-01 Thread Larry Wall
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 06:05:58PM +0200, Thomas Wittek wrote: : Daniel Hulme: : >> Larry Wall: : >>> I name things in English. Hash is just something that is disordered : > : >> I'm not a native english speaker, but I've never heard or read the word : >> "hash" outside CS. : > : > you've never

Re: propose renaming Hash to Dict

2007-06-01 Thread Thomas Wittek
Daniel Hulme: >> Larry Wall: >>> I name things in English. Hash is just something that is disordered > >> I'm not a native english speaker, but I've never heard or read the word >> "hash" outside CS. > > you've never eaten "corned beef hash". To conclude, as hash definitely tastes better than a

Re: propose renaming Hash to Dict

2007-06-01 Thread Daniel Hulme
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 10:30:08AM -0400, John Macdonald wrote: > > "...make a hash of things" (meaning, a mess) > > "corned beef hash" > > That's two people that have given the same list, but both > have omitted the more common (in modern times) phrase "hash > browned potatos" which is a hash of

Re: propose renaming Hash to Dict

2007-06-01 Thread John Macdonald
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 07:07:06AM -0400, Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote: > > On Jun 1, 2007, at 5:44 , Thomas Wittek wrote: > > >Larry Wall: > >>Nope. Hash is mostly about meaning, and very little about > >>implementation. > >>Please don't assume that I name things according to Standard Names

Re: propose renaming Hash to Dict

2007-06-01 Thread Mark J. Reed
Let's not forget that the CS meaning of "hash" didn't spring forth fully-formed from the skull of Donald Knuth or anything. A "hash function" is so called because it "makes a hash of" the inputs. That is, its output, while deterministic, is at first glance a random rearrangement of the inputs. H

Re: propose renaming Hash to Dict

2007-06-01 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Jun 1, 2007, at 5:44 , Thomas Wittek wrote: Larry Wall: Nope. Hash is mostly about meaning, and very little about implementation. Please don't assume that I name things according to Standard Names in Computer Science. I name things in English. Hash is just something that is disordered,

Re: propose renaming Hash to Dict

2007-06-01 Thread Mark J. Reed
On 6/1/07, Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nope. Hash is mostly about meaning, and very little about implementation. Please don't assume that I name things according to Standard Names in Computer Science. I name things in English. Then why did we need a separate "use English" pragma? :)

Re: propose renaming Hash to Dict

2007-06-01 Thread Daniel Hulme
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 11:44:53AM +0200, Thomas Wittek wrote: > Larry Wall: > > Nope. Hash is mostly about meaning, and very little about implementation. > > Please don't assume that I name things according to Standard Names in > > Computer Science. I name things in English. Hash is just someth

Re: propose renaming Hash to Dict

2007-06-01 Thread Thomas Wittek
Larry Wall: > Nope. Hash is mostly about meaning, and very little about implementation. > Please don't assume that I name things according to Standard Names in > Computer Science. I name things in English. Hash is just something > that is disordered, which describes the associative array interfa