Re: Perl 6 Summary for week ending 20020728
On 1 Aug 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The mailing list archives are still not searchable (tell me about it), > but Brent Dax points out that the ever wonderful Google has the "site:" > keyword to do search restriction. I foresee a handy little autobookmark > appearing on my galeon toolbar real soon now. http://groups.google.com/groups?q=perl.perl6 (via colobus (by Jim Winstead), colobus patches (by me) and Stanford NNTP (by Russ Allbery)). > Stephen Rawls has a problem; Spamassassin thinks his patches are spam. Spamassassin didn't play nicely with 5.8.0RC1 which we used until yesterday when Robert upgraded it. > 1 It's late. Don't worry about that. I'm sure I'm not the only one to really appreciate it, whenever it comes out. Thanks! > Actually, feedback on this would be good; in general adding the links is > the most time consuming and tedious part of writing the summaries, > requiring a net connection and time to check the links. Which leads me > to wonder if I can't write links as predictable google searches using > the message-id. Time to experiment methinks. nntp.perl.org supports linking by message-id. -- ask bjoern hansen, http://askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do();
Re: More 6PAN musings: local namespaces
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Damian Conway) writes: > Larry has previously mentioned the prospect of Perl 6 module names > being extended to include version number and author. Yes, we even talked about it extensively at the "CPAN meeting" in Monterey 2 years ago. =) -- ask bjoern hansen, http://askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do();
Re: Larry's State of the Onion slides
On Wed, 8 May 2002, Nathan Torkington wrote: Larry's State of the Onion slides from TPC5 are now available from http://dev.perl.org/perl6/talks/ http://dev.perl.org/perl6/talks/onion5.pdf - ask > Damian sent them to me in PPT form in January, and only now I > converted them to PDF. > > Ask, could you put those onto the dev.perl.org site and announce to > perl6-language? Thanks, -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ http://askbjoernhansen.com !try; do();
Perl6/Parrot status
Hi, I am tired of people thinking that we are not getting anywhere at all, so if (some|any|every)one can send me a reasonably updated text for the "Where are we" section at http://www.parrotcode.org/ and likewise for http://dev.perl.org/perl6/status then I would most appreciate it. :-) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
TPC5 Onion slides
Hi, I can't find Larry's slides from TPC5 online anywhere. Is it just me or what? :) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do(); more than 100M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
Re: http://www.ora.com/news/vhll_1299.html
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Sam Tregar wrote:
[...]
> On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Adam Turoff wrote:
> Um, that's not what the article was talking about The proposal is to use
> an XML syntax to program in existing "VHLL" languages, including Perl.
> This would supposedly allow programmers to embed drawings as
> documentation
my first thought was,
=pod for xml
visio3000.png
=cut
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the list archives ...
... at http://archive.develooper.com/?M=D should now be updating again. :-) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Re: list logs?
On Sun, 6 May 2001, Dan Brian wrote: > Logs on archive.develooper.com for p6l and p5p haven't been written to > since 4/27. I assume somebody is already looking at it, or updates are > scheduled for longer periods than before? I haven't had time to get them updating again since I moved the perl.org mail to the new box. real soon now, real soon now. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Re: Flexible parsing (was Tying & Overloading)
On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Michael G Schwern wrote: > Unfortunately, the perl6-language archive doesn't seem to go back far > enough to cover the .perlrc discussion. Is the old archive still > around? don't know which archive you are talking about, but http://archive.develooper.com/perl6-language%40perl.org/ should have all mails sent to perl6-language from it's start to a few days ago when I moved stuff around. http://archive.develooper.com/perl6-language%40perl.org/msg00002.html - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do(); more than 100M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
string concatenation operator - please stop.
To me this whole thing looks like bike shedding at it's worst at this point. Please stop and read this http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#BIKESHED-PAINTING and possibly this http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=506636+517178+/usr/local/www/db/text/1999/freebsd-hackers/19991003.freebsd-hackers before writing more on the subject, huh? - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Re: Parsing perl 5 with perl 6 (was Re: Larry's Apocalypse 1)
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Tim Bunce wrote: [...] > That beautiful code will be beautifully _open_ to _external_ extensions. > And that is how I imagine that Perl 5 support should be implemented. Exactly. I am pretty sure that already at the meeting in Monterey someone suggested that Perl5 should be the first test of the language extension mechanism. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();
Re: Apocalypse 1 from Larry
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, A. C. Yardley wrote: > > 16 bdb Keep default Perl free of constraints such as warnings and strict. > > 73 adb All Perl core functions should return objects > ^ > [...] > >I might at some point add a ``d'' for Deferred, if I really think it's > >too soon to decide something. > > is already in effect? No. Read again. The two first flags was an a-f "grade". - ask> -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do(); more than 70M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com
Re: State of PDD 0
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: > I have created perl6-announce-pdd. Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > for clues. by the way, Adam Turoff was kind and volunteered to take the PDD archive pumpkin like he was handling the bazillion RFC's. [EMAIL PROTECTED] will thus go to him now. Be sure to buy him an extra beer or three at TPC[1]. - ask [1] or just go and pick it up at the bar for him if they are free. :) -- ask bjoern hansen - <http://ask.netcetera.dk/>
Re: State of PDD 0
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Bryan C. Warnock wrote: > On Tuesday 20 February 2001 17:38, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: > > > > I have created perl6-announce-pdd. Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > for clues. > > > > How should the submission process work? As for the RFC's? > > Can you confirm the actual submission address? Are we using perl-pdd? And > did we want to make this Perl 6 specific, or Perl generic (like perl-qa is)? Notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] after sending the (unnumbered) PDD to perl6-internals and I will add it to the list. Will be changed when the PDD traffic gets higher. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - <http://ask.netcetera.dk/> more than 70M impressions per day, <http://valueclick.com>
Re: Auto-install (was autoloaded...)
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Stephen P. Potter wrote: > Lightning flashed, thunder crashed and "Branden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> whisp > ered: > | For the list managers: Could we have a list apart from -language, so that we > | don't bother all with this `par'-issue ??? Please? Perhaps a list that > | includes the issue on directory structure, and other issues related to > | installation and deployment of Perl itself and Perl programs & modules. > > How about a perl6-install list? This discussion really doesn't fit into > any of the current top level lists, so we can make a new top level and > cover other installation issues as well. Ask, can you make this, if the > name is agreeable. [EMAIL PROTECTED] already exists. http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - http://ask.netcetera.dk/
new list: perl6-language-regex
subscribe by sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] more details at http://dev.perl.org/lists LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CHAIR: Mark-Jason Dominus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MISSION:Draft and discuss RFCs related to regexp language issues in Perl 6. Report weekly to Language WG. DEADLINE: September 30th (semi-permanent sublist) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - <http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/> more than 70M impressions per day, <http://valueclick.com>
new list: perl6-language-data@perl.org
subscribe by sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] more information at http://dev.perl.org/lists LIST: perl6-language-data CHAIR: Jeremy Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MISSION:Discuss and draft RFCS for Perl 6 language features related to the Perl Data Language (PDL) and numeric Perl in general. Report weekly to the Language WG. DEADLINE: September 30th - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - <http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/> more than 70M impressions per day, <http://valueclick.com>
Re: Permanent sublists (was Re: Language WG report, August 16th2000)
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Peter Scott wrote: [...] > >Ask, can you change the deadlines on these lists to be "as long as it > >takes" or similar? > > Sorry I didn't chime in earlier, but I would like to say that I prefer > published deadlines. Reason: people will talk for as long as you give > 'em. However long a meeting is scheduled for, that's how long it will > take. We're already reaching the point of diminishing returns in several > discussions IMHO; if we let 'em drag on forever they may turn ugly. Something like that was also the original intention for having "deadlines" (shamelines) in the first place. They should be used not as "uhu, the time is up. We gotta stop so there won't be any IO in perl6" but rather as "hey, we hit the date again. If we haven't gotten anything done we probably did something wrong and should think about how it is we're trying to reach the goal". - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - <http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/> more than 70M impressions per day, <http://valueclick.com>
list changes: perl6-language-objects added, perl6-language-unlinkclosed
Subscribe by sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More details at http://dev.perl.org/lists.shtml LIST: perl6-language-objects CHAIR: Nathan Wiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MISSION:Develop RFCs related to objects and OO programming in Perl, possibly rationalising existing RFCs where they cover the same ground. DEADLINE: As long as it takes. Report fortnightly (first report August 29th). - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - <http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/> more than 70M impressions per day, <http://valueclick.com>
new lists: perl6-language-flow, perl6-language-io and perl6-language-unlink
WORKING GROUP: perl6-language-flow
CHAIR: uri guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MISSION: Draft, discuss, and revise RFCs relating to flow control
in Perl 6, eg switch/case, looping, etc. Suggest/request
other flowcontrol-related lists if appropriate
DEADLINE: 3 weeks, extensible on request (end 26th August?)
DESCRIPTION: Submit flowcontrol-related RFCs to the Perl 6 librarian
as they are developed.
WORKING GROUP: perl6-language-unlink
CHAIR: Nathan Wiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MISSION: Discuss and redraft RFC 29. Draft and discuss an
opposing RFC *or* rename RFC 29 to "ways of dealing with
unlink()" and discuss various viewpoints.
DEADLINE: 1 week (end August 12th)
DESCRIPTION: Submit redrafted RFC 29 to perl6-language. Optionally
submit opposing RFC.
WORKING GROUP: perl6-language-io
CHAIR: Nathan Wiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MISSION: Draft and discuss I/O related RFCs, including (but not
limited to) RFCs 14 and 30.
DEADLINE: 3 weeks, extensible on request (end August 26)
DESCRIPTION: Submit I/O related RFCs to the Perl 6 librarian as they
are developed.
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new list: perl6-language-subs
more details at http://dev.perl.org/lists.shtml WORKING GROUP: perl6-language-subs CHAIR: Tim Jenness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Damian Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (if he wants it) MISSION: Draft, discuss, and revise RFCs relating to subroutines in Perl 6, eg named parameters, want(), prototyping DEADLINE: 3 weeks, extensible on request (end 25th August?) DESCRIPTION: Submit subroutine-related RFCs to the Perl 6 librarian as they are developed. -- ask bjoern hansen - <http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/> more than 70M impressions per day, <http://valueclick.com>
new list: perl6-language-strict
subscription information at http://dev.perl.org/ WORKING GROUP: perl6-language-strict CHAIR: J. David Blackstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Daniel Chetlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MISSION:Discuss the use of the strict pragma in Perl 6 DEADLINE: 18 August 2000 DESCRIPTION:Redrafted versions of Perl RFCs 6 and 16, sent to the librarian and hence to the perl6-language list - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - <http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/> more than 70M impressions per day, <http://valueclick.com>
new list: perl6-language-mlc
subscribe information and more at: http://tmtowtdi.perl.org/ List name: perl6-language-mlc Chair: Michael J. Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Charter:Discuss and redraft the multiline comments RFC Timescale: 1 week (end Thursday 10th August) Deliverables: Michael to post the redrafted RFC back to perl6-language - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - <http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/> more than 70M impressions per day, <http://valueclick.com>
Re: RFC stuff
On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Simon Cozens wrote: > > Is there an open NNTP server running with all these as the perl.* > > groups? That would help a lot. > > It would, yes. I've been toying with the idea of setting one up, but > I think it should be news.perl.org Russ talked about doing that. I think it would have to be called nntp.perl.org. > Ask, are you busy enough yet? :) Just about. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - <http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/> more than 70M impressions per day, <http://valueclick.com>
