On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Damian Conway wrote:
Jonathan wrote:
Sounds like the encapsulation breaking thingy probably wants to be looking
for some pragma to have been used in the lexical scope of the caller, maybe.
I'd rather that we called it something other than MONKEY_TYPING though.
Different
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010, Damian Conway wrote:
And thus C.get_value and C.set_value are just convenient
access points for the same behaviour.
Yes. People are going to shoot themselves in the foot anyway,
so let's legalize semi-automatic weapons as well.
Well, of course! What are you, a
On Tue, 3 Aug 2010, Carl Mäsak wrote:
Jason ():
No specific tool is best suited for natural language processing. There was
apparently a time in which everyone thought that a formal grammar could
clearly define any natural language, but I don't think anyone succeeded at
creating a complete
Hi. I'm wondering if any thought has been given to natural language
processing with Perl 6 grammars.
:)
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| Name: Tim Nelson | Because the Creator is,|
| E-mail: wayl...@wayland.id.au| I
Hi. I've been thinking more about reversible grammars. Specifically,
I'm wondering if the following pseudo-code will be possible:
## Match a grammar here
$match = Grammar.match($text)
## Need some code here to get $submatch from $match
$submatch.Str = fred
## Reverse Grammar
$text =
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Stefan O'Rear wrote:
On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 09:19:01AM +1000, Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
Hi. I've been thinking more about reversible grammars. Specifically,
I'm wondering if the following pseudo-code will be possible:
## Match a grammar here
$match
On Tue, 11 May 2010, Daniel Ruoso wrote:
2 - The interpreter implements a scheduler, just like POE.
I don't have a clue about threading, but I saw POE, and since I know
that's an event loop mechanism, I thought I'd comment that I want to be able
to do GTK programming, which I think
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010, Carl Mäsak wrote:
We (mberends and masak) just pushed a commit to S32::Temporal which
completely replaces what we had before. The changes are rooted in
hours of discussion on #perl6, and we feel rather more confident with
what we have now than with what we had before.
That
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Carl Mäsak wrote:
Meanwhile, the uncanny similarities between Perl 6 and Algol 68
continue to strike me:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALGOL_68 (]):
] ALGOL 68 [...] was conceived as a successor to the ALGOL 60 programming
] language, designed with the goal of a much wider
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Daniel Ruoso wrote:
Em Seg, 2010-03-08 às 12:45 -0800, Little Walker escreveu:
I've been looking around to see if there's been any discussion of
introducing functional programming-style pattern matching for method/
function dispatch. Could someone point me to any such
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010, Nicholas Clark wrote:
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:02:02AM +0300, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
- Time Zone, which can differ from GMT by halves of an hour.
quarter hours in at least one place (Nepal)
This doesn't affect your reasoning.
Also, time zone abbreviations are
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Jon Lang wrote:
John Gabriele wrote:
Personally, I've always thought that Perl has a very natural feel to
it, and deserves a doc markup format that's also natural: [Markdown]
(and [Pandoc]'s Markdown has just the right additions, IMO).
[Markdown]:
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote:
On Feb 12, 2010, at 19:57 , Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Jon Lang wrote:
John Gabriele wrote:
Personally, I've always thought that Perl has a very natural feel to
it, and deserves a doc markup format that's also natural
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, Giuseppe Castagna wrote:
Hi,
I would like to know where I can find the latest documentation on the type
(and above all subtype) system for Perl 6. The synopsis does not say much
about it.
http://perlcabal.org/syn/
There's no one document there that contains all the
I've been wondering about lenses recently. The page at
http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~harmony/ seems to give an overview, and I know that
augeas also uses lenses.
It seems to me that a grammar can be thought of as a one-way lens. I
was wondering whether the bi-directional idea might be
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:02:02PM +1000, Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, Saravanan Thiyagarajan wrote:
Would like to be a volunteer in working for perl-6.
Can some one help me to get into right direction ?
Sure
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, Saravanan T wrote:
Thanks Tim for the link,
I tried IRC channel felt like not to disturb from their serious discussion with
a newbie
question.
Feel free. There are a few people in the serious discussions who will
ignore questions not directly targetted at them, but a
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009, Carl Mäsak wrote:
Tim (), Raphael ():
Some XML related stuff:
XML parser:
http://github.com/fperrad/xml/
Tree manipulation:
http://github.com/wayland/Tree/tree/master
Thanks. Any reason they're not known to proto?
The latter I wasn't really aware of. It's now added
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote:
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 19:49 +1000, Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
+1. I have a set of 7 bookmarks that load in tabs that I call my Perl 6
bookmarks. I load this group of tabs into a separate web browser window when
I'm doing Perl 6 stuff. That link
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, Saravanan Thiyagarajan wrote:
Would like to be a volunteer in working for perl-6.
Can some one help me to get into right direction ?
Sure. The best way to help depends on your skill-set. One place to
start is at http://www.rakudo.org/how-to-help
That doesn't cover
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, Michael Zedeler wrote:
Thanks to everyone who has posted their thoughts on Ranges.
Here are the conclusions I have drawn:
Ranges are for checking whether something is within a given interval.
RangeIterators are for iterating over elements in a Range with a given step
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Darren Duncan wrote:
My proposal is to have all filesystem paths as seen within Perl being
relative paths, and that there are multiple filesystem roots which can be
referred to by name and each relative path is explicitly relative to a named
root; each of these named
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Mark J. Reed wrote:
I don't think $file1.name == $file2.name should talk to the FS,
because I think File#name t+r whatever) should return a plain Str.
Having magical FilePathName objects is handy, but sometimes you want
to get the filename as a dumb string to do stringish
I should've mentioned, though, we're currently using the smartmatch
operator for this, so I'm thinking maybe I'll just stick with that.
:)
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| Name: Tim Nelson | Because the Creator is,|
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On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, David Green wrote:
On 2009-Aug-18, at 2:29 am, Carlin Bingham wrote:
chdir provides functionality that would be quite convoluted to mimic
through manually setting $*CWD, such as changing to a relative
directory.
Maybe setting $*CWD just calls chdir() under the hood?
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Mark J. Reed wrote:
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:04 AM, David Greendavid.gr...@telus.net wrote:
On 2009-Aug-18, at 2:29 am, Carlin Bingham wrote:
chdir provides functionality that would be quite convoluted to mimic
through manually setting $*CWD, such as changing to a
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, David Green wrote:
On 2009-Aug-17, at 8:36 am, Jon Lang wrote:
Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
Well, my main thought in this context is that the stuff that can be
done to the inside of a file can also be done to other streams -- TCP
sockets for example (I know
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote:
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 2:33 PM, David Green david.gr...@telus.net wrote:
Huh. Thank you, I did not know that. It makes sense (in that I
understand what's going on now that I see it, and indeed it seems almost
obvious), but I certainly couldn't
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Leon Timmermans wrote:
Reading this discussion, I'm getting the feeling that filename
literals are increasingly getting magical, something that I don't
think is a good development. The only sane way to deal with filenames
is treating them as opaque binary strings, making
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Carlin Bingham wrote:
2009/8/19 Timothy S. Nelson wayl...@wayland.id.au:
So, if P5 does it for some global (note: global != environment)
variables, then why not do it for some in P6?
Because if (for some reason) I do:
$ = 5; # Which calls setuid(5);
print
Ok, here's a fairly significant point posted on IRC.
TimToady wayland76: the point of using $*CWD would be (and would *have* to
be, given how context vars work) to give each thread its own working
directory, independent of the process as a whole
Now, given that chdir is an OS
See this link.
http://archive.netbsd.se/?ml=perl6-languagea=2008-11t=9170058
In particular, I thought Tom Christiansen's long message had some
relevant info about filename literals.
:)
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| Name: Tim Nelson
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Jon Lang wrote:
Well, I definitely think there needs to be a class that combines the
inside and the outside, or the data and the metadata. Certainly the
separate parts will exist separately for purposes of implementation, but
there needs to be a user-friendlier view
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009, David Green wrote:
On 2009-Aug-15, at 9:22 am, Jon Lang wrote:
IOW, your outside the file stuff is whatever can be done without
having to open the file, and your inside the file is whatever only
makes sense once the file has been opened. Correct?
Pretty much,
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009, Darren Duncan wrote:
Richard Hainsworth wrote:
Would it be possible to remove the special purpose of \ from strings within
IO constructs?
This would mean '\' could be used in naming paths as an alternative to '/',
thus allowing windows and unix strings to be equivalent,
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009, Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
Considering, though, that we're talking about a magic perl quoting
syntax, we could offer people the option of the following two:
q:io{C:\Windows} # Does what you want
q:io:qq:{C:\\Windows} # Does the same thing
Wouldn't that cover
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009, Austin Hastings wrote:
This whole thread seems oriented around two points:
1. Strings should not carry the burden of umpty-ump filesystem checking
methods.
2. It should be possible to specify a filesystem entity using something
nearly indistinguishable from standard
More ideas:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, Hinrik Örn Sigurðsson wrote:
# bin/perl on Unix
my $rel = qf/usr bin perl/;
# /usr/bin/perl
my $abs = qf[/usr bin perl];
...and on Windows, would the above result in C:\/usr\bin\perl ? :)
# The following both result in the same object
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, Hinrik Örn Sigurðsson wrote:
Imagine two roles, Filename and Dirname (or Path::File / Path::Dir). I
...or imagine just one, called IO::FSNode.
http://perlcabal.org/syn/S32/IO.html#IO::FSNode
Btw, kudos for the special quoting idea -- I love it
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009, Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, Hinrik Örn Sigurðsson wrote:
Imagine two roles, Filename and Dirname (or Path::File / Path::Dir). I
...or imagine just one, called IO::FSNode.
Sorry, I was stupiding again. I'll ask you to imagine 4:
IO
I had an interesting idea I wanted to put out there. If I'm being a
good boy and commenting my code, I do things like the following pseudocode:
# Get the stuff and do other stuff with it
@lines = slurp(file);
@otherlines = map { s/foo/bar/ } @lines
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Raphael Descamps wrote:
Hi,
I have seen that wayland76 was playing with an XML Grammar on #perl6, so
I think that it was maybe the time to send what I already have done.
Raphael: I don't say any of this to discourage you, but to present
alternatives to the list.
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Reini Urban wrote:
Following up on the parrot-1.4.0 release check on cygwin the release errors are
still not being touched.
rakudo is still not being able to be built without a parrot build_dir.
Building with installed parrot is unsupported, which means creating a
package
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009, Mark J. Reed wrote:
A few months ago (or maybe more) I proposed making pathnames their own
type, distinct from (or perhas a subclass of) strings, but easily
constructed from strings, maybe with an operator. Having those 29
single-letter methods on such a class would not bug
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Ovid wrote:
Note that I have no idea where (if anywhere) the type goes in this.
Hopefully someone will correct me here. Note that this does not use the roles
as roles; it uses them punned as classes. But it does what you asked :).
Though I have issues with
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Ovid wrote:
role Bomb {
method fuse (){ say '3 .. 2 .. 1 ..' }
method explode () { say 'Rock falls. Everybody dies!' }
}
role Spouse {
method fuse (){ sleep rand(20); say Now! }
method explode () { say 'You worthless piece of junk! Why I should ...' }
I'm just thinking out loud in this e-mail, trying to generate
alternatives.
What would happen if we had an operator that returned the number of
true values? Say we call it boolean plus, or bop.
To give one example: 1 bop 3 = 2
Say we're looking at: ($x 1) bop 3 bop ($y
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, John M. Dlugosz wrote:
I have trouble using the arrow character in general. It's because of the
fonts: they have such tiny heads the arrow doesn't show well at all, or
match the surrounding character style. So I tend to avoid them on web pages,
and any document where
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, yary wrote:
I'm about halfway through reading Synopsis 3 and have a couple
comments/questions.
Is there, should there be unicode synonyms for the feed operators? eg
== is also ? lArr; LEFTWARDS DOUBLE ARROW
== is also ? rArr; RIGHTWARDS DOUBLE ARROW
I don't see as
On Sat, 30 May 2009, Daniel Ruoso wrote:
1) A package format.
This is supposed to be a source format, but different from current model
used in CPAN, it's pretty clear already that it can't include a build
system, like ExtUtils::MakeMaker or Module::Install.
There's already some consensus
On Sat, 30 May 2009, Mark Overmeer wrote:
* Timothy S. Nelson (wayl...@wayland.id.au) [090530 03:11]:
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Alex Elsayed wrote:
Instead, it would go to the distributions, who are already well-prepared to
handle packaging. We'd just be providing the tools and material they need
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Daniel Carrera wrote:
Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
I can confirm that Redhat supports multiple versions:
$ rpm -q kernel
kernel-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686
kernel-2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686
kernel-2.6.27.5-117.local.fc10.i686
AFAIK the way RPM implements multiple versions
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Mark Overmeer wrote:
* Daniel Carrera (daniel.carr...@theingots.org) [090528 16:07]:
Mark Overmeer wrote:
In March 2006, Sam Vilain and I started to think about a new CPAN
what we named CPAN6. There is a lot of information about the project on
http://cpan6.org
I know
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Mark Overmeer wrote:
* Alex Elsayed (eternal...@gmail.com) [090528 22:17]:
While lurking in IRC, I've seen several discussions of what CPAN 6 should
look like.
I would really like to see a split in terminology being used for the
various seperate problems. The
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Daniel Carrera wrote:
Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
While I've no objection to building the end-user software to support
multiple repositories, I know that there are certain segments of the
community who are very very keen to keep everything in the one repository.
After
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Jon Lang wrote:
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:52 AM, John Macdonald j...@perlwolf.com wrote:
Yep, I've done that.
But comparing the difference in effort between:
- press a key
- Google for a web page that has the right character set, cut, refocus, paste
means that I don't
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Austin Hastings wrote:
How about Parrot?
Because the SMOP Perl 6 implementation doesn't target Parrot, and
won't, and we want to include them too. Likewise other P6 implementations.
HTH,
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On Fri, 29 May 2009, Mark Overmeer wrote:
* PAUSE6; this is an actual network based on the CPAN6 software (see
above). It also is not documented here.
Pause6 is one implementation of archive maintenance software. In the
first version written in Perl5, it implements things like
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Daniel Ruoso wrote:
So, I'd expect to have a Debian archive, in the Debian case, hosted by
the Debian Perl group (which packages about ~ 500 CPAN modules to Debian
today) with the binary packages targetting each of the Debian
versions...
The same would go for RedHat and
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Alex Elsayed wrote:
This problem strikes me as intractable - I think the only thing we can do is
provide a dependency specifier, clearly tagged as being external to the CPAN 6
archive, with a sensible name that allows a human to intervene and find the
correct package for
On Fri, 29 May 2009, John M. Dlugosz wrote:
Ah yes, on the PC historically you hold down the ALT key and type the code
with the numpad keys.
At least when I used it, this was a decimal, rather than hex number,
and had to be preceded by a 0 (zero).
So if anyone is still on eg.
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Alex Elsayed wrote:
IMO, that discussion should go in the direction of additional services:
the CPAN archive distributes what authors publish. The install tools
(CPAN.pm/CPANPLUS/successors) make that code fit in specific operating
systems. As a service, other people can
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Jon Lang wrote:
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Darren Duncan dar...@darrenduncan.net wrote:
I had some thoughts lately about the Perl 6 operators, and wanted to bounce
some ideas.
Firstly, regarding the string replication ops as documented in Synopsis 3,
'x'
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Mark Overmeer wrote:
* Timothy S. Nelson (wayl...@wayland.id.au) [090529 11:26]:
I'd like to suggest to Mark and Daniel that, seeing as I won't be
making it to any Perl event outside Australia, and maybe not even some
inside, and Mark can't keep up with IRC (my
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Darren Duncan wrote:
Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
How about if xx became x, and then we did things like:
[~] @list x $count
...to get the string replciation?
Maybe you meant this?
[~] $item x $count
No, I'm pretty sure I meant what I wrote. But if x
On Thu, 28 May 2009, Alex Elsayed wrote:
On Thursday 28 May 2009 4:04:28 pm Daniel Carrera wrote:
At first I liked wayland76's proposal, but now I have a new concern:
Most package managers are not designed to hold multiple versions of the
same package. As indicated in S11, it is important
On Thu, 28 May 2009, John M. Dlugosz wrote:
John Macdonald john-at-perlwolf.com |Perl 6| wrote:
However, the assumption fails if process is supposed to mean that
everyone is capable of generating Unicode in the messages that they
are writing. I don't create non-English text often enough to
On Tue, 26 May 2009, Daniel Carrera wrote:
Carl Mäsak wrote:
In this way, a relatively simple change makes Perl 6 Pod able to do
literate
programing for anyone who is interested.
What do you think?
That it sounds like a good idea for a sublanguage-extending module.
I'm not familiar with
On Fri, 22 May 2009, Jonathan Worthington wrote:
Daniel Ruoso wrote:
Em Sex, 2009-05-22 às 01:25 -0500, John M. Dlugosz escreveu:
@primes = do $_ if prime($_) for 1..100;
becomes
@primes = $_ when prime($_) for 1..100;
you gained one stroke, it's certainly better... I think it's
On Wed, 20 May 2009, John M. Dlugosz wrote:
If you would be so kind, please take a look at
http://www.dlugosz.com/Perl6/web/med-loop.html. I spent a couple days on
this, and besides needing it checked for correctness, found a few issues as
well as more food for thought.
John, I
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Helmut Wollmersdorfer wrote:
Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
I note that S02 says that the unicode classes Ps/Pe are blessed to act
as opening and closing quotes. Is there a reason that we can't have Pi/Pf
blessed too? I ask because there are quotation marks in the Pi/Pf
I note that S02 says that the unicode classes Ps/Pe are blessed to act
as opening and closing quotes. Is there a reason that we can't have Pi/Pf
blessed too? I ask because there are quotation marks in the Pi/Pf set that
are called Substitution and Transposition which I thought might be cool
Hi all. Can we change %*OPTS to %*ARGH ? By analogy with @ARGS, but
a hash of args? I've always used that, and kind of like the amusement factor
:).
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On Sat, 4 Apr 2009, Darren Duncan wrote:
Speaking of libraries, I already implemented a table type ... it's called
Set::Relation/::V2 and its on CPAN right now ... for Perl 5 ... I still have
to port it to Perl 6, unless someone else wants to do that, but I designed it
so that would be easy
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009, Xiao Yafeng wrote:
3. Could I define primary key for a bag variable?
All items in a Bag are primary keys, but there's no data additional
data associated with it.
I mean whether I can see Set as a table and Bag as a table with a
unique constraint? like:
subset
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009, Moritz Lenz wrote:
Xiao Yafeng wrote:
1. Could I set multi-return type?like
sub test as (Int, Str) {...}
as is coercion - so to what would it coerce? Int or Str? How could the
compiler know? Or do you mean something like a tuple?
I think
Hi all. I've been thinking about stringification, forms, and things
like that.
As exegesis 7 points out, sprintf, pack, and the forms language all
essentially take data and specifies how to turn it into a string (I'm using
string loosely here). Likewise with .perl -- it takes some data,
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Nigel Hamilton wrote:
I like the Camelia it's colourful, fun - it even has an embedded, sideways
reference to a
Camel.
But IMHO there is a need for three logos:
I'm not so sure
1. Combined Parrot + Rakudo
[snip]
2. Rakudo
My understanding was that Rakudo
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Damian Conway wrote:
Earlier I wrote:
Maybe just something like one of the attached graphics
(only redone by someone with actual graphical design skills ;-)?
It occurs to me that this comment might be misread as an implied
criticism of Conrad's original artwork as well.
Firstly, I'd like to speak in favour of the idea of designing a logo
for Perl6, and then creating a Rakudo logo based on the Perl6 logo and the
Parrot logo. From here on, I'll be addressing the Perl6 logo.
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Larry Wall wrote:
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:49:42AM -0700, Jon
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| Name: Tim Nelson | Because the Creator is,|
| E-mail: wayl...@wayland.id.au| I am |
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BEGIN GEEK
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
My choice would be a lion, perhaps one lazing in the sun. The meaning that it
is lazy, but it has raw power when it needs, and is the king of the jungle.
Is there a way we can also show it to be impatient and hubristic? :)
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
My choice would be a lion, perhaps one lazing in the sun. The meaning that
it is lazy, but it has raw power when it needs, and is the king of the
jungle.
Is there a way we can also show
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Andy Lester wrote:
I think it would be better to call it Dallas.pm and just talk about Perl 6 in
the meeting announcements. The key is that we don't want people to think
they must choose one or the other. Technologically, Perl 5 and Perl 6 are
very different, but
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 01:37:16PM +1100, Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
I guess the way I decide things like this is:
- If it's a method on a role/object, then it lives in S32
- If it's not a method, then it lives in S29
Do we have
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
Log:
- Moved defined and undefined from Scalar.pod to Any.pod,
as per signature
...
+=item defined
+
+ our Bool multi defined ( Any $thing )
+ our Bool multi defined ( Any $thing, ::role )
+ our Bool multi method defined ( Any
I've done some more fiddling based on Carl Masak's updated list.
* I see the sub version of defined declared in S29. Is the method
version (used in S02:519) also in S29? I can't see it, but I might be
missing something about how method signatures work.
I've moved it to
Hi all. I've been hanging around on #perl6, and have heard a fairly
regular complaint in the last few days. 3 or 4 people have turned up wanting
to work on Rakudo, and not always been able to get the information that they
wanted.
I promised to write a message to the list complaining about
Sorry, forgot to send this to the list.
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 17:16:22 +1100 (EST)
From: Timothy S. Nelson wayl...@wayland.id.au
To: Carl Mäsak cma...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: More S29/S32 Masak ideas
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, Carl Mäsak wrote
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, Carl Mäsak wrote:
# .ACCEPTS and .REJECTS on most everything -- provided by the Pattern role.
Likely a mistake to put one under each section, though. Perhaps put one
under Object and put a reference to S03.
What does Pattern? Should we have Object does Pattern?
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Daniel Ruoso wrote:
Em Seg, 2009-03-02 às 17:04 +1100, Timothy S. Nelson escreveu:
Hi. I note that we have $?OS, $?VM, and $?DISTRO (and their $*
counterparts). I'd like to recommend that we eliminate $?OS, and replace it
with $?KERNEL (ie. Linux) and maybe $?ARCH
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Daniel Ruoso wrote:
Em Seg, 2009-03-02 às 23:47 +1100, Timothy S. Nelson escreveu:
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Daniel Ruoso wrote:
So, I think the proper name to the variables would be
$?ARCH and $*ARCH
Where they would stringify to the arch triplet, while providing
convenience
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Darren Duncan wrote:
Jon Lang wrote:
Under the section about twigils in S02, $=var is described as a pod
variable. I'm not finding any other references to pod variables;
what are tey, and how are they used? (In particular, I'm wondering if
they're a fossil; if they
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Henry Baragar wrote:
I am starting to get overwhelmed by the number of special names and I am
wondering why we need to have a flat naming space?
For example, wouldn't it be easier to remember (and to introspect) the
following?
I vote in favour of the general idea,
Hi. I note that we have $?OS, $?VM, and $?DISTRO (and their $*
counterparts). I'd like to recommend that we eliminate $?OS, and replace it
with $?KERNEL (ie. Linux) and maybe $?ARCH (ie. i386). Thoughts?
:)
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On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Moritz Lenz wrote:
# Code has a .sig
Seems (from what I can tell) to be synonymous with .signature, so I
standardised on .signature.
This leads me to another question - afaict we also have .arity on the
code object, but shouldn't that be method on the .signature
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Larry Wall wrote:
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 02:05:28PM +1100, Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
Does this mean that $! is a container of some sort?
It's an object, which (in the abstract) can contain anything it jolly
well pleases. The main question beyond that is how
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
My suggested solution would be to change $! to an exception container
object. But then we have to use it in the implicit given in the CATCH block.
If we used an any() Junction, would that do what we want?
Ok, Moritz told me on IRC
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Daniel Ruoso wrote:
Em Qui, 2009-02-26 às 08:55 -0300, Daniel Ruoso escreveu:
for @! {}
might provide the needed semantics...
After sending this mail I've just realized I don't know exactly which
are the needed semantics...
what happens if you have several unthrown
Here's my comments on Carl Masak's S29 list. Note that some of the
things that say that they're now in something still need a lot of work.
# Range objects have .from, .to, .min, .max and .minmax methods
Now in S32/Containers.pod
# .contains on Hash and Array
Where's this from?
#
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