Re: // in Perl 5.8?

2002-05-01 Thread Mark J. Reed

On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 12:11:58PM -0700, Brent Dax wrote:
 It's far too late to make it into 5.8, but it looks like it'll be in
 5.10 when that comes out (in a year or two).
.. . . by which time 6.0 will have already been released, right?

Right?


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RE: // in Perl 5.8?

2002-05-01 Thread Brent Dax

Mark J. Reed:
# On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 12:11:58PM -0700, Brent Dax wrote:
#  It's far too late to make it into 5.8, but it looks like 
# it'll be in 
#  5.10 when that comes out (in a year or two).
# .. . . by which time 6.0 will have already been released, right?
# 
# Right?

*bites back sarcastic comment about the pace of Perl 6's development*

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Re: // in Perl 5.8?

2002-05-01 Thread David Wheeler

On 4/17/02 10:02 PM, Brent Dax [EMAIL PROTECTED] claimed:

 I'm working on a preliminary version right now.  So far it's been
 surprisingly easy--touches toke.c, perly.y, opcode.pl, pp.c, and
 pp_hot.c.  (Of course, it's also off an old bleadperl, but I doubt those
 files change that actively.)

I'm not a p5p, so I was wondering how this was going. I expect it won't go
into 5.8.0, eh?

Regards,

David 

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RE: // in Perl 5.8?

2002-05-01 Thread Brent Dax

David Wheeler:
# On 4/17/02 10:02 PM, Brent Dax [EMAIL PROTECTED] claimed:
# 
#  I'm working on a preliminary version right now.  So far it's been 
#  surprisingly easy--touches toke.c, perly.y, opcode.pl, pp.c, and 
#  pp_hot.c.  (Of course, it's also off an old bleadperl, but I doubt 
#  those files change that actively.)
# 
# I'm not a p5p, so I was wondering how this was going. I 
# expect it won't go into 5.8.0, eh?

It's far too late to make it into 5.8, but it looks like it'll be in
5.10 when that comes out (in a year or two).

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Re: // in Perl 5.8?

2002-05-01 Thread David Wheeler

On 5/1/02 12:11 PM, Brent Dax [EMAIL PROTECTED] claimed:

 It's far too late to make it into 5.8, but it looks like it'll be in
 5.10 when that comes out (in a year or two).

I figured. Too bad. ;-) A year or two is long time to wait!

Regards,

David
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Re: // in Perl 5.8?

2002-05-01 Thread Graham Barr

On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 12:17:52PM -0700, David Wheeler wrote:
 On 5/1/02 12:11 PM, Brent Dax [EMAIL PROTECTED] claimed:
 
  It's far too late to make it into 5.8, but it looks like it'll be in
  5.10 when that comes out (in a year or two).
 
 I figured. Too bad. ;-) A year or two is long time to wait!

Well if the patch maintains binary compatability, I dont
see why it would not go into 5.8.1. But who knows when that will be.

Graham.




Re: // in Perl 5.8?

2002-05-01 Thread Allison Randal

On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 01:04:10PM -0700, Brent Dax wrote:
 
 *bites back sarcastic comment about the pace of Perl 6's development*

*fails to squelch reply about the survival rate of prematurely birthed
babies*

Some things just take time.



RE: // in Perl 5.8?

2002-05-01 Thread Brent Dax

Allison Randal:
# On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 01:04:10PM -0700, Brent Dax wrote:
#  
#  *bites back sarcastic comment about the pace of Perl 6's 
# development*
# 
# *fails to squelch reply about the survival rate of prematurely birthed
# babies*
# 
# Some things just take time.

I know, and I'm not complaining.  I'm just saying that that will
probably give Perl 5 at least a year or two more life.

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RE: // in Perl 5.8?

2002-05-01 Thread Brent Dax

Graham Barr:
# On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 12:17:52PM -0700, David Wheeler wrote:
#  On 5/1/02 12:11 PM, Brent Dax [EMAIL PROTECTED] claimed:
#  
#   It's far too late to make it into 5.8, but it looks like 
# it'll be in 
#   5.10 when that comes out (in a year or two).
#  
#  I figured. Too bad. ;-) A year or two is long time to wait!
# 
# Well if the patch maintains binary compatability, I dont
# see why it would not go into 5.8.1. But who knows when that will be.

I thought they don't introduce new features in point releases...

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Re: // in Perl 5.8?

2002-04-19 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez

Brent Dax wrote in perl.perl6.language :
 
 I'm working on a preliminary version right now.  So far it's been
 surprisingly easy--touches toke.c, perly.y, opcode.pl, pp.c, and
 pp_hot.c.  (Of course, it's also off an old bleadperl, but I doubt those
 files change that actively.)

Work on a more recent bleadperl and watch t/japh/abigail.t ;-)

 BTW, so far toke.c hasn't been as bad as I've heard it is.  :^)

Once you're used to it, it's surprisingly clear.

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// in Perl 5.8?

2002-04-17 Thread David Wheeler

Anyone know what the chances are that some enterprising C hacker
can/will/did get the // and //= operator into Perl 5.8? Seems like it
wouldn't be a huge deal to add, and I'd love to have it sooner rather than
later.

Regards,

David

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Re: // in Perl 5.8?

2002-04-17 Thread Dave Mitchell

On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 01:09:43PM -0700, David Wheeler wrote:
 Anyone know what the chances are that some enterprising C hacker
 can/will/did get the // and //= operator into Perl 5.8? Seems like it
 wouldn't be a huge deal to add, and I'd love to have it sooner rather than
 later.

I hope you're referring to 5.8.x for some x != 0  ???  :-)

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Re: // in Perl 5.8?

2002-04-17 Thread David Wheeler

On 4/17/02 1:51 PM, Dave Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] claimed:

 I hope you're referring to 5.8.x for some x != 0  ???  :-)

Do you know how late in the development process the $coderef-() feature was
added to Perl (in whatever release that was)? Ask Randal to talk about it
sometime. ;-)

But maybe things are more rigorous now, and it should be 5.8.1. Personally,
I'd rather see it sooner than later.

David

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Re: // in Perl 5.8?

2002-04-17 Thread Graham Barr

On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 01:09:43PM -0700, David Wheeler wrote:
 Anyone know what the chances are that some enterprising C hacker
 can/will/did get the // and //= operator into Perl 5.8? Seems like it
 wouldn't be a huge deal to add, and I'd love to have it sooner rather than
 later.

It is not hard todo. If you look in the archives you can probably find it, although
it will be there as ??

The problem with // is that it already has a meaning and although perl6 will redefine 
it
can we do so in perl5 ? I don't think we can.

Graham.



Re: // in Perl 5.8?

2002-04-17 Thread David Wheeler

On 4/17/02 2:17 PM, Graham Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] claimed:

 The problem with // is that it already has a meaning and although perl6 will
 redefine it
 can we do so in perl5 ? I don't think we can.

Oh yeah, you're right. Perl 5 would have to require that it be m//, and that
would break a lot of existing code. Good point, I hadn't thought of that.

Regards,

David
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RE: // in Perl 5.8?

2002-04-17 Thread Brent Dax

Randal L. Schwartz:
#  David == David Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
# David Anyone know what the chances are that some 
# enterprising C hacker 
# David can/will/did get the // and //= operator into Perl 5.8? Seems 
# David like it wouldn't be a huge deal to add, and I'd love 
# to have it 
# David sooner rather than later.
# 
# Not in 5.8, which is in the final freezy stages.
# Perhaps in 5.9 thus 5.10.

I'm working on a preliminary version right now.  So far it's been
surprisingly easy--touches toke.c, perly.y, opcode.pl, pp.c, and
pp_hot.c.  (Of course, it's also off an old bleadperl, but I doubt those
files change that actively.)

BTW, so far toke.c hasn't been as bad as I've heard it is.  :^)

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