Re: Arc: An Unfinished Dialect of Lisp

2003-01-25 Thread Andy Wardley
Adam Turoff wrote: The problem with cons/car/cdr is that they're fundemental operations. Graham *has* learned from perl, and is receptive to the idea that fundemental operators should be huffman encoded (lambda - fn). It would be easy to simply rename car/cdr to first/rest, but that loses

Re: Arc: An Unfinished Dialect of Lisp

2003-01-24 Thread Adam Turoff
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 10:16:50AM +, Andy Wardley wrote: On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 12:55:56PM -0800, Rich Morin wrote: I'm not a Lisp enthusiast, by and large, but I think he makes some interesting observations on language design. Take a look if you're feeling adventurous... I can't

Re: Arc: An Unfinished Dialect of Lisp

2003-01-24 Thread Tanton Gibbs
The problem with cons/car/cdr is that they're fundemental operations. Graham *has* learned from perl, and is receptive to the idea that fundemental operators should be huffman encoded (lambda - fn). It would be easy to simply rename car/cdr to first/rest, but that loses the huffman nature of

Re: Arc: An Unfinished Dialect of Lisp

2003-01-24 Thread Adam Turoff
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 01:00:26PM -0500, Tanton Gibbs wrote: The problem with cons/car/cdr is that they're fundemental operations. Graham *has* learned from perl, and is receptive to the idea that fundemental operators should be huffman encoded (lambda - fn). It would be easy to simply

Re: Arc: An Unfinished Dialect of Lisp

2003-01-24 Thread Piers Cawley
Adam Turoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 10:16:50AM +, Andy Wardley wrote: On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 12:55:56PM -0800, Rich Morin wrote: I'm not a Lisp enthusiast, by and large, but I think he makes some interesting observations on language design. Take a look if

Re: Arc: An Unfinished Dialect of Lisp

2003-01-22 Thread Andy Wardley
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 12:55:56PM -0800, Rich Morin wrote: I'm not a Lisp enthusiast, by and large, but I think he makes some interesting observations on language design. Take a look if you're feeling adventurous... I can't help feeling slightly deflated. Given the chance to re-design Lisp

Re: Arc: An Unfinished Dialect of Lisp

2003-01-22 Thread Austin Hastings
--- Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 12:55:56PM -0800, Rich Morin wrote: I'm not a Lisp enthusiast, by and large, but I think he makes some interesting observations on language design. Take a look if you're feeling adventurous... I can't help feeling

Re: Arc: An Unfinished Dialect of Lisp

2003-01-22 Thread Sean O'Rourke
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Austin Hastings wrote: I'm done with 'P'. That's it. Putative planners of programming paradigms must proffer some prefix preferable to the pathetic palimpsest that is 'P'! As with operators, so with programming languages -- Unicode comes not a moment too soon. /s

Arc: An Unfinished Dialect of Lisp

2003-01-21 Thread Rich Morin
I just finished skimming this write-up, located at http://paulgraham.com/arcll1.html I'm not a Lisp enthusiast, by and large, but I think he makes some interesting observations on language design. Take a look if you're feeling adventurous... -r -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; phone: +1