I was having a think about the volume of discussion on -language and whether it's workable. From my point of view, I'd prefer that it was about half as busy, maybe even less. Fifty posts a day I could easily cope with and spend time thinking about; a hundred and fifty, or two hundred and fifty, and I start to get swamped and can't keep my attention on stuff. So. I have a personal, self-centred, greedy, egotistical goal of getting -language down to fifty posts a day. What do people think of this? The sublists are still young (I don't see any posts in the -strict archive yet, for instance) and have yet to be proven. The -mlc list has only half a dozen posts, and my feeling on that is that I should have probably have shifted it sooner so that the full weight of the discussion didn't happen on -language. I basically have a choice between being extremely trigger happy (inventing a bunch of sublists and trying to avoid any discussion of those topics on -language) or waiting until discussion is already starting to get unmanageable on the main -language list. It's a hard line to walk, but I think perhaps I will try and be a tad more trigger-happy, er, I mean pro-active. On that note, you'll see a couple of sublist proposals in a minute or two. Please respond on-list if you have any detailed thougths, or out of band to if you have a simple aye nor nay; if I get a bunch of "do it" email, I will get pro-active and set them up. Yes Simon, you may now shoot me for having used both "pro-active" and "deliverables" in relation to Perl :) K. -- Kirrily Robert -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- http://netizen.com.au/ Open Source development, consulting and solutions Level 10, 500 Collins St, Melbourne VIC 3000 Phone: +61 3 9614 0949 Fax: +61 3 9614 0948 Mobile: +61 410 664 994