Re: What happened to "err" operator?

2008-09-07 Thread John M. Dlugosz
TSa (Thomas Sandlaß) thomas-at-sandlass.de |Perl 6| wrote: a() proceed: orelse b(); CATCH { ... # make $! into return value goto proceed; } This kind of needs to know the variable the return value of a() is stored into. This is easy if orelse is checking $! anyway. But do

Re: What happened to "err" operator?

2008-09-07 Thread Dr.Ruud
"TSa (Thomas Sandlaß)" schreef: > Larry Wall: >> Another potential issue is that CATCH doesn't distinguish exceptions >> coming from the current block from those coming from the subcall to >> a(). So it could end up returning Failure from the current block when >> you intended to force return of F

Re: What happened to "err" operator?

2008-09-07 Thread TSa (Thomas Sandlaß)
HaloO, On Thursday, 4. September 2008 03:39:20 Larry Wall wrote: > Another potential issue is that CATCH doesn't distinguish exceptions > coming from the current block from those coming from the subcall to a(). > So it could end up returning Failure from the current block when > you intended to fo

Re: What happened to "err" operator?

2008-09-03 Thread Larry Wall
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 06:41:10PM -0500, John M. Dlugosz wrote: > Larry Wall larry-at-wall.org |Perl 6| wrote: >> a() orelse b() >> >> you might want to: >> succeed on a() >> trap mild failure of a() and try to succeed on b() instead >> fail completely on drastic failure of a() >>

Re: What happened to "err" operator?

2008-09-03 Thread John M. Dlugosz
Larry Wall larry-at-wall.org |Perl 6| wrote: a() orelse b() you might want to: succeed on a() trap mild failure of a() and try to succeed on b() instead fail completely on drastic failure of a() At the moment this three-way distinction depends on whether a() returns defined/unde

Re: What happened to "err" operator?

2008-09-02 Thread Larry Wall
On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 07:56:33PM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote: : I think you're thinking of the "erm" operator... : : But back to "orelse" - is the only difference between "and"/"or" and : "andthen"/"orelse" the fact that the result of the lhs gets passed as : a parameter into the rhs? 'Cause I do

Re: What happened to "err" operator?

2008-09-02 Thread Mark J. Reed
I think you're thinking of the "erm" operator... But back to "orelse" - is the only difference between "and"/"or" and "andthen"/"orelse" the fact that the result of the lhs gets passed as a parameter into the rhs? 'Cause I don't see the difference between "short circuit" and "proceed on success/f

Re: What happened to "err" operator?

2008-09-02 Thread ajr
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 04:28:36PM -0500, John M. Dlugosz wrote: >> Has the "err" operator, as a low-precidence version of //, been removed? > > Yes. > It could be recycled as a "fuzzy Boolean", returning a fractional value between +1 and -1, indicating the confidence with which the result is off

Re: What happened to "err" operator?

2008-09-01 Thread Larry Wall
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 04:28:36PM -0500, John M. Dlugosz wrote: > Has the "err" operator, as a low-precidence version of //, been removed? Yes. > It's not mentioned in S03, and the semantics of "orelse" is different. > Is "orelse" supposed to be a direct replacement, meaning if you ignore >

What happened to "err" operator?

2008-08-31 Thread John M. Dlugosz
Has the "err" operator, as a low-precidence version of //, been removed? It's not mentioned in S03, and the semantics of "orelse" is different. Is "orelse" supposed to be a direct replacement, meaning if you ignore the parameter thing then it doesn't change anything?