Implicit current-index variable, scoped inside for-loops

2006-08-29 Thread Carl Mäsak
Yobert Hey do you know what would be cool in perl 6 Yobert A special variable for when you do a for (@array) style loop Yobert it would always have the index of the array Discussed on #perl6: it's already quite easy in Perl 6 to loop with an explicit index: my @array = moose elk caribou; for

Re: Implicit current-index variable, scoped inside for-loops

2006-08-29 Thread Ruud H.G. van Tol
Carl Mäsak wrote: But maybe a variable that implicitly carries along the loop index would be even snazzier? for @array - $val { say $.\t$val; } Or give the block a name (label), and have an index (or several indexes, like some that are reset by redo an some that are not) available,

Re: Implicit current-index variable, scoped inside for-loops

2006-08-29 Thread Carl Mäsak
Ruud (), Carl (): But maybe a variable that implicitly carries along the loop index would be even snazzier? for @array - $val { say $.\t$val; } Or give the block a name (label), and have an index (or several indexes, like some that are reset by redo an some that are not) available,

Re: Implicit current-index variable, scoped inside for-loops

2006-08-29 Thread Mark A. Biggar
Carl Mäsak wrote: Yobert Hey do you know what would be cool in perl 6 Yobert A special variable for when you do a for (@array) style loop Yobert it would always have the index of the array Discussed on #perl6: it's already quite easy in Perl 6 to loop with an explicit index: my @array = moose

Classes / roles as sets / subsets

2006-08-29 Thread Richard Hainsworth
Originally this posting was written in response to the 'ref' spec thread. I included char diagrams that got screwed up, so I made a png diagram instead (attached) and I re-edited the posting to refer to attached diagram, and then added some more comments. Hope everyone can 'see' the png. I

Re: Implicit current-index variable, scoped inside for-loops

2006-08-29 Thread Dr.Ruud
Carl Mäsak schreef: Ruud: Carl: But maybe a variable that implicitly carries along the loop index would be even snazzier? for @array - $val { say $.\t$val; } Or give the block a name (label), and have an index (or several indexes, like some that are reset by redo an some that are

Re: Implicit current-index variable, scoped inside for-loops

2006-08-29 Thread Carl Mäsak
Mark (), Carl (): Yobert Hey do you know what would be cool in perl 6 Yobert A special variable for when you do a for (@array) style loop Yobert it would always have the index of the array Discussed on #perl6: it's already quite easy in Perl 6 to loop with an explicit index: my @array =

Re: Classes / roles as sets / subsets

2006-08-29 Thread Daniel Hulme
See diagram case 2 (Class A and Class B intersect): B are built from a role that represents their intersection ( Class A U Class B), and then code is added in the definitions of the It may be just me being confused, but the symbol that looks like a U (U+222a) is usually union; intersection

Re: Implicit current-index variable, scoped inside for-loops

2006-08-29 Thread Dr.Ruud
Carl Mäsak schreef: I suppose doing a map or a grep over @array.kv is possible: pugs my @array = london bridge is falling down (london, bridge, is, falling, down) pugs map { Element $^a is called $^b }: @array.kv; (Element 0 is called london, Element 1 is called bridge, Element 2 is

Re: Classes / roles as sets / subsets

2006-08-29 Thread Mark J. Reed
On 8/29/06, Daniel Hulme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perl up to 5 may be executable line noise, but I can see Perl 6 being the closest thing yet to executable maths, and I love it. Funny, I could have sworn APL was the closest thing yet to executable maths. ( Hey, wait a minute, I'm American;

Re: Implicit current-index variable, scoped inside for-loops

2006-08-29 Thread Jonathan Scott Duff
Having read this thread, I tend to think you're insane for bringing it up again :-) That said, I'll entertain the discussion for a bit ... On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 08:33:20AM +0200, Carl Mäsak wrote: Questions: - Is the itch big enough for this? The more I look at the first piece of code,

Fwd: Classes / roles as sets / subsets

2006-08-29 Thread Jonathan Lang
I accidently sent this directly to Richard. Sorry about that, folks... -- Forwarded message -- From: Jonathan Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Aug 29, 2006 1:24 PM Subject: Re: Classes / roles as sets / subsets To: Richard Hainsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Richard Hainsworth wrote: I

Re: Implicit current-index variable, scoped inside for-loops

2006-08-29 Thread Damian Conway
pugs map { Element $^a is called $^b }: @array.kv; (Element 0 is called london, Element 1 is called bridge, Element 2 is called is, Element 3 is called falling, Element 4 is called down) But it can hardly be blamed for clarity. That's a little unfair. Choose good names and it's perfectly

return Types: what are the enforcement details?

2006-08-29 Thread Mark Stosberg
I'm interested in helping to write some tests for return types, but I'd like some clarifications about them first. Are they just declarations that help Perl optimize stuff, or they actually contracts? As this little script shows, both inner and of are valid syntax now with pugs, but neither is

Perilous placeholder parameters

2006-08-29 Thread Stuart Cook
On 8/30/06, Damian Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a little unfair. Choose good names and it's perfectly clear: map { Element $^array_index is called $^array_value } == @array.kv; As an aside, though, doesn't that particular solution now implicitly rely on the fact that ('index'

named arguments: What's the signature?

2006-08-29 Thread Mark Stosberg
Regarding The S06 description of named arguments: http://feather.perl6.nl/syn/S06.html#Named_arguments What I find missing here is documentation of the signature to use if you want to declare I accept an arbitrary number of named arguments. (Like the param() methods common in Perl5 do). Maybe

Re: named arguments: What's the signature?

2006-08-29 Thread Trey Harris
In a message dated Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Mark Stosberg writes: Regarding The S06 description of named arguments: http://feather.perl6.nl/syn/S06.html#Named_arguments What I find missing here is documentation of the signature to use if you want to declare I accept an arbitrary number of named

Re: named arguments: What's the signature?

2006-08-29 Thread Stuart Cook
On 8/30/06, Mark Stosberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding The S06 description of named arguments: http://feather.perl6.nl/syn/S06.html#Named_arguments What I find missing here is documentation of the signature to use if you want to declare I accept an arbitrary number of named arguments.

A suggestion for a new closure trait.

2006-08-29 Thread Joe Gottman
Since a FIRST block gets called at loop initialization time, it seems to me that it would be useful to have a block closure trait, RESUME, that gets called at the beginning of every loop iteration except the first. Thus, at the beginning of each loop iteration either FIRST or RESUME but not both

Re: named arguments: What's the signature?

2006-08-29 Thread Mark Stosberg
Trey Harris wrote: Slurpy parameters follow any required or optional parameters. They are marked by a C* before the parameter: sub duplicate($n, *%flag, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) {...} Named arguments are bound to the slurpy hash (C*%flag in the above example). Such arguments

Re: Implicit current-index variable, scoped inside for-loops

2006-08-29 Thread Dr.Ruud
Damian Conway schreef: [attribution repaired] Carl: But it can hardly be blamed for clarity. That's a little unfair. can hardly be blamed - can easily be praised g -- Affijn, Ruud Gewoon is een tijger.

Re: Implicit current-index variable, scoped inside for-loops

2006-08-29 Thread Damian Conway
But it can hardly be blamed for clarity. That's a little unfair. can hardly be blamed - can easily be praised g Apologies to Carl if I misinterpreted. I read it as: can hardly be blamed for (having) clarity ;-) Damian

could 'given' blocks have a return value?

2006-08-29 Thread Mark Stosberg
Sometimes I use 'given' blocks to set a value. To save repeating myself on the right hand side of the given block, I found I kept want to do this: my $foo = given { } ...and have whatever value that was returned from when {} or default {} populate $foo. It turns out pugs already allow this,

Re: Implicit current-index variable, scoped inside for-loops

2006-08-29 Thread Dr.Ruud
Damian Conway schreef: Ruud: Damian: Carl: But it can hardly be blamed for clarity. That's a little unfair. can hardly be blamed - can easily be praised g Apologies to Carl if I misinterpreted. I read it as: can hardly be blamed for (having) clarity ;-) Nah, I was just joking;

Re: Implicit current-index variable, scoped inside for-loops

2006-08-29 Thread Damian Conway
for @array - $index, $value { say Element $_ is called $value } But I don't understand how the $index, $value pair gets its values; is @array somehow turned into a hash with the index as the key? With @array - $index, $value {}, is $_ an alias of $index? No. There's no such

Re: could 'given' blocks have a return value?

2006-08-29 Thread Jonathan Lang
Mark Stosberg wrote: Sometimes I use 'given' blocks to set a value. To save repeating myself on the right hand side of the given block, I found I kept want to do this: my $foo = given { } ...and have whatever value that was returned from when {} or default {} populate $foo. Isn't it still

Re: could 'given' blocks have a return value?

2006-08-29 Thread Agent Zhang
On 8/30/06, Mark Stosberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes I use 'given' blocks to set a value. To save repeating myself on the right hand side of the given block, I found I kept want to do this: my $foo = given { } According to S04, given {} is at statement level, so you can't use it

Questions about statement modifiers

2006-08-29 Thread Agent Zhang
Hi, there~ I think S04 says too little about statement modifiers. Please comment on the following code samples. Are they valid Perl 6? do { say } for 1..3; { say } for 1..3; - $i { say $i } for 1..3; And how about similar variations for other statement modifiers, such as while,