Re: slaughter of the LTM metatokens

2009-01-30 Thread Larry Wall
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:58:18PM -0800, Mark Lentczner wrote: >> [STD, S03] slaughter of the LTM metatokens > > This cleans up the metaop scene quite a bit. Bravo! > > I went through STD.pm with a fine tooth comb again, to extract what I'd > say about which operators were allowed to be meta'd b

Re: r25102 - docs/Perl6/Spec

2009-01-30 Thread Carl Mäsak
Mark (>), Moritz (>>), Larry via commit bot (>>>): >>> +PERL# Lexical symbols in the standard "perlude" >> >> Did you mean "prelude" instead? > > I took the quotation marks to indicate an intentional > misspelling/coinage: "perl" + "prelude" = "perlude". At which point one might ask o

Re: r25122 - docs/Perl6/Spec

2009-01-30 Thread Darren Duncan
pugs-comm...@feather.perl6.nl wrote: In the abstract, Perl is written in Unicode, and has consistent Unicode -semantics regardless of the underlying text representations. +semantics regardless of the underlying text representations. By default +Perl presents Unicode in "NFG" formation, where ea

Re: r25122 - docs/Perl6/Spec

2009-01-30 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Darren Duncan wrote: > pugs-comm...@feather.perl6.nl wrote: >> >> By default Perl presents Unicode in "NFG" formation, where each grapheme >> counts as >> one character. A grapheme is what the novice user would think of as a >> character in their normal everyday

Re: r25102 - docs/Perl6/Spec

2009-01-30 Thread Larry Wall
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:49:13AM +0100, Carl Mäsak wrote: : Mark (>), Moritz (>>), Larry via commit bot (>>>): : >>> +PERL# Lexical symbols in the standard "perlude" : >> : >> Did you mean "prelude" instead? : > : > I took the quotation marks to indicate an intentional : > misspelling

Re: r25102 - docs/Perl6/Spec

2009-01-30 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Larry Wall wrote: > We want something that comes > outside your program, that is, a lexical scope that *surrounds* the > file scope. We don't have a good word for that: circumlude? ambilude? >[...] > Or we could go with a more linguistic contextual metaphor. A

Re: r25102 - docs/Perl6/Spec

2009-01-30 Thread Jon Lang
Larry Wall wrote: > So I'm open to suggestions for what we ought to call that envelope > if we don't call it the prelude or the perlude. Locale is bad, > environs is bad, context is bad...the wrapper? But we have dynamic > wrappers already, so that's bad. Maybe the setting, like a jewel? > That

Re: r25102 - docs/Perl6/Spec

2009-01-30 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 08:30:25AM -0800, Larry Wall wrote: > So anyway, just because other languages call it a prelude doesn't > mean that we have to. Perl is the tail that's always trying to > wag the dog... > > What is the sound of one tail wagging? For my dog Sally, the sound of one tail wag

Re: r25122 - docs/Perl6/Spec

2009-01-30 Thread Larry Wall
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 03:30:02AM -0800, Darren Duncan wrote: > pugs-comm...@feather.perl6.nl wrote: >> In the abstract, Perl is written in Unicode, and has consistent Unicode >> -semantics regardless of the underlying text representations. >> +semantics regardless of the underlying text represen

Re: r25122 - docs/Perl6/Spec

2009-01-30 Thread Geoffrey Broadwell
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 08:12 +0100, pugs-comm...@feather.perl6.nl wrote: > @@ -103,7 +106,7 @@ > =item * > > POD sections may be used reliably as multiline comments in Perl 6. > -Unlike in Perl 5, POD syntax now requires that C<=begin comment> > +Unlike in Perl 5, POD syntax now lets you use C<=

Re: r25122 - docs/Perl6/Spec

2009-01-30 Thread Larry Wall
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:28:43AM -0800, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote: : On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 08:12 +0100, pugs-comm...@feather.perl6.nl wrote: : > @@ -103,7 +106,7 @@ : > =item * : > : > POD sections may be used reliably as multiline comments in Perl 6. : > -Unlike in Perl 5, POD syntax now requ

Re: r25122 - docs/Perl6/Spec

2009-01-30 Thread Darren Duncan
Larry Wall wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 03:30:02AM -0800, Darren Duncan wrote: What's with this NFG / Normal Form G that you refer to? I don't see any mention of that in http://unicode.org/reports/tr15/ ... did you mean NFC? Nope, this is a Perl/Parrot idea. It started out with a notion of