Re: Amazing Perl 6

2009-06-01 Thread Larry Wall
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 04:45:12PM -0400, Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote: > On May 29, 2009, at 15:43 , John M. Dlugosz wrote: >> Care to try ☃ ? That's alt-meta-hyper-doublebucky-cokebottle. > > > *puzzled as to why OSX Character Map thinks that's related to 雪* Maybe they can't tell the diffence

RE: [RFC] CPAN6 requirements analysis

2009-06-01 Thread Jan Dubois
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Jesse Vincent wrote: > Making binary distribution easy is a laudable goal, but it's something > the existing infrastructure already supports. I'd love to see "CPAN > autobuilders" which build perl modules for a givven platform and > architecture and make them generally availabl

Re: CPAN -- moving forward

2009-06-01 Thread Parrot Raiser
Part of the tension here may be coming from the attempt to debate too many levels of structure at once. One of the common factors that has contributed to the longevity of Unix (in the generic sense), and the Internet, is their layered architectures. The kernel does its thing, the shell sits on top

Re: CPAN -- moving forward

2009-06-01 Thread Daniel Carrera
Parrot Raiser wrote: One of the common factors that has contributed to the longevity of Unix (in the generic sense), and the Internet, is their layered architectures. +1 for layered architectures. If this discussion can be split into clear layers, (what gets stored, where, how, &c.) it might

Module naming conventions

2009-06-01 Thread Daniel Carrera
Hi all, Currently in CPAN you have modules like: Digest::MD5 Digest::SHA Digest::MD5::Perl Digest::SHA::PurePerl The difference is that the first two are implemented in C and the later two in Perl. Naming issues are likely to become worse in Perl 6 when we also have modules that use Parrot.

Re: Module naming conventions

2009-06-01 Thread Jon Lang
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Daniel Carrera wrote: > I think we might need to come up with some sort of standard naming > convention to distinguish dependencies. Something that the *user* can > recognize quickly when he browses CPAN. Why do we need the dependencies to be part of the name? Per

Re: Module naming conventions

2009-06-01 Thread Daniel Carrera
Jon Lang wrote: On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Daniel Carrera wrote: I think we might need to come up with some sort of standard naming convention to distinguish dependencies. Something that the *user* can recognize quickly when he browses CPAN. Why do we need the dependencies to be part of

Re: The game of life

2009-06-01 Thread John M. Dlugosz
yary not.com-at-gmail.com |Perl 6| wrote: The rho example is interesting, though it doesn't compile in current Rakudo. "1 2 3 ⍴¨ 10 would natively be written in Perl 6 as 10 »xx« (1,2,3)." perl6 complains about non-dwimmyness. 10 <> (1,2,3) gi

Re: Module naming conventions

2009-06-01 Thread jason switzer
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Jon Lang wrote: > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Daniel Carrera > wrote: > > I think we might need to come up with some sort of standard naming > > convention to distinguish dependencies. Something that the *user* can > > recognize quickly when he browses CPAN. >

Anonymous multidimensional array

2009-06-01 Thread yary
How does one create an anonymous multidimensional array in p6? Not an array of arrays or a capture of captures... I'm guessing it involves Array.new(:shape) or something like :shape(2;2), and that it's not yet implemented in Rakudo. Is anonymous multidimensional array creation covered in the synop

Re: Module naming conventions

2009-06-01 Thread John M. Dlugosz
Daniel Carrera daniel.carrera-at-theingots.org |Perl 6| wrote: Naming issues are likely to become worse in Perl 6 when we also have modules that use Parrot. You might have three implementations of Digest::SHA, one in Perl 6, one that uses Parrot, and one that uses C. Worse, you might even find

Re: Anonymous multidimensional array

2009-06-01 Thread Larry Wall
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 08:23:41PM -0700, yary wrote: : How does one create an anonymous multidimensional array in p6? Not an : array of arrays or a capture of captures... But I would expect a shaped array to be able to coerce either of those into its internal format. And coercing captures into s

Re: Anonymous multidimensional array

2009-06-01 Thread John M. Dlugosz
Larry Wall larry-at-wall.org |Perl 6| wrote: On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 08:23:41PM -0700, yary wrote: : How does one create an anonymous multidimensional array in p6? Not an : array of arrays or a capture of captures... But I would expect a shaped array to be able to coerce either of those into its