Re: Capture Literals

2006-09-24 Thread Austin Hastings

Jonathan Lang wrote:


What got me thinking about this was that I couldn't find decent
documentation about Capture literals in the synopses.

Are Capture literals going to replace or unify the "assuming"/"currying" 
behaviors?


=Austin



Re: Capture Literals

2006-09-22 Thread Jonathan Lang

Larry Wall wrote:

: This would mean that the rules for capturing are as follows:
:
: * Capturing something in scalar context: If it is a pair, it is
: captured as a named argument; otherwise, it is captured as the
: invocant.
:
: * Capturing something in list context: Pairs are captured as named
: arguments; the first non-pair is captured as the invocant if it is
: followed by a colon, but as a positional argument otherwise; all other
: non-pairs are captured as positional arguments.

Capture literals ignore their context like [...] does.


What got me thinking about this was that I couldn't find decent
documentation about Capture literals in the synopses.


: So:
:
:  $x = \$a;  # $$x eqv $a
:  $x = \:foo;# %$x eqv { foo => 1 }
:  $x = \($a,);   # @$x eqv ( $a ); is the comma neccessary, or are the
: () enough?

I think the () is probably enough.


Problem: S02 explicitly states that '\3' is the same as '\(3)'.  So:
both of them put 3 into the scalar slot of the capture object, or both
of them put the single-item list '(3)' into the array slot of the
capture object.  Whichever way they go, how would you do the other?


:  $x = \($a:);   # $$x eqv $a
:  $x = \(:foo);  # %$x eqv { foo => 1 }; assuming that adverbs can go
: inside ().
:  $x = \($a, $b)  # @$x eqv ($a, $b)
:  $x = \($a: $b)  # $$x eqv $a; @$x eqv ($b)
:  $x = \:foo ($a: $b, $c):bar <== $d, $e <== flag => 0; # results
: on next three lines:
:# $$x eqv $a
:# @$x eqv ($b, $c, $d, $e)
:# %$x eqv { foo => 1, bar => 'baz', flag => 0 }

Ignoring the syntax error, yes.


Please don't ignore the syntax error; I'm not seeing it.


: Note that this approach makes it impossible for a pair to end up
: anywhere other than as a named argument in the capture object; while
: this makes sense when the capture object is being used as a proxy
: argument list, it makes less sense when it is being used as the
: equivalent of perl 5's references, and thus is probably a bug.

If you say "flag" => 0 it comes in as a pair rather than a named arg.


I was under the impression that the left side of '=>' still gets
auto-quoted in perl 6.

Anyway, you're saying that if I capture a pair, it will be stored in
the array portion of the capture object (the 'positional args'); if I
capture an adverb, it will be stored in the hash portion of the
capture object (the 'named args').  Right?

--
Jonathan "Dataweaver" Lang


Re: Capture Literals

2006-09-21 Thread Larry Wall
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 10:03:45PM -0700, Jonathan Lang wrote:
: How would I construct a capture literal that has both an invocant and
: at least one positional argument?  How do I distinguish this from a
: capture literal that has no invocant and at least two positional
: arguments?
: 
: Gut instinct: if the first parameter in a list is delimited from the
: rest using a colon instead of a comma, treat it as the invocant;
: otherwise, treat it as the first positional argument.

That is correct.

: This would mean that the rules for capturing are as follows:
: 
: * Capturing something in scalar context: If it is a pair, it is
: captured as a named argument; otherwise, it is captured as the
: invocant.
: 
: * Capturing something in list context: Pairs are captured as named
: arguments; the first non-pair is captured as the invocant if it is
: followed by a colon, but as a positional argument otherwise; all other
: non-pairs are captured as positional arguments.

Capture literals ignore their context like [...] does.

: So:
: 
:  $x = \$a;  # $$x eqv $a
:  $x = \:foo;# %$x eqv { foo => 1 }
:  $x = \($a,);   # @$x eqv ( $a ); is the comma neccessary, or are the
: () enough?

I think the () is probably enough.

:  $x = \($a:);   # $$x eqv $a
:  $x = \(:foo);  # %$x eqv { foo => 1 }; assuming that adverbs can go
: inside ().
:  $x = \($a, $b)  # @$x eqv ($a, $b)
:  $x = \($a: $b)  # $$x eqv $a; @$x eqv ($b)
:  $x = \:foo ($a: $b, $c):bar <== $d, $e <== flag => 0; # results
: on next three lines:
:# $$x eqv $a
:# @$x eqv ($b, $c, $d, $e)
:# %$x eqv { foo => 1, bar => 'baz', flag => 0 }

Ignoring the syntax error, yes.

: Note that this approach makes it impossible for a pair to end up
: anywhere other than as a named argument in the capture object; while
: this makes sense when the capture object is being used as a proxy
: argument list, it makes less sense when it is being used as the
: equivalent of perl 5's references, and thus is probably a bug.

If you say "flag" => 0 it comes in as a pair rather than a named arg.

Larry


Capture Literals

2006-09-21 Thread Jonathan Lang

How would I construct a capture literal that has both an invocant and
at least one positional argument?  How do I distinguish this from a
capture literal that has no invocant and at least two positional
arguments?

Gut instinct: if the first parameter in a list is delimited from the
rest using a colon instead of a comma, treat it as the invocant;
otherwise, treat it as the first positional argument.

This would mean that the rules for capturing are as follows:

* Capturing something in scalar context: If it is a pair, it is
captured as a named argument; otherwise, it is captured as the
invocant.

* Capturing something in list context: Pairs are captured as named
arguments; the first non-pair is captured as the invocant if it is
followed by a colon, but as a positional argument otherwise; all other
non-pairs are captured as positional arguments.

So:

 $x = /$a;  # $$x eqv $a
 $x = /:foo;# %$x eqv { foo => 1 }
 $x = /($a,);   # @$x eqv ( $a ); is the comma neccessary, or are the
() enough?
 $x = /($a:);   # $$x eqv $a
 $x = /(:foo);  # %$x eqv { foo => 1 }; assuming that adverbs can go
inside ().
 $x = /($a, $b)  # @$x eqv ($a, $b)
 $x = /($a: $b)  # $$x eqv $a; @$x eqv ($b)
 $x = /:foo ($a: $b, $c):bar <== $d, $e <== flag => 0; # results
on next three lines:
   # $$x eqv $a
   # @$x eqv ($b, $c, $d, $e)
   # %$x eqv { foo => 1, bar => 'baz', flag => 0 }

Note that this approach makes it impossible for a pair to end up
anywhere other than as a named argument in the capture object; while
this makes sense when the capture object is being used as a proxy
argument list, it makes less sense when it is being used as the
equivalent of perl 5's references, and thus is probably a bug.

--
Jonathan "Dataweaver" Lang