Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-27 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 2/26/07, Geoffrey Broadwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm. Let's see if there is a way I can help to get what I want Assuming that the answer to my question in the other thread is packed arrays aren't implemented anywhere yet, are any implementations close enough that I can trade tests

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread chromatic
On Saturday 24 February 2007 22:42, Richard Hainsworth wrote: But while perl6 continues its evolution, without a tangible end, few are going to dedicate time and effort to write documentation for such as me. (eg. How out of date are the Exegesis files?) You could make a very similar argument

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread herbert breunung
hi richard (eg. How out of date are the Exegesis files?) very *g* just use the synopsis *g* herbert (proton-ce.sf.net) ___ Viren-Scan für Ihren PC! Jetzt für jeden. Sofort, online und kostenlos. Gleich testen!

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread Carl Mäsak
herbert (), Richard (): (eg. How out of date are the Exegesis files?) very *g* just use the synopsis *g* Hm, it might actually be a good idea to port the code examples from the Exegeses to current Perl6, preferably also runnable in Pugs. The ported programs could be put under examples/ in

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread herbert breunung
or include a disclaimer that they are outdated as juerd sugested, or do both. anyway this is an issue since google finds the A and E first. im really intrested if im with juerd the only one here seeing this as an issue. thanks herbert proton-ce.sf.net herbert (), Richard (): (eg. How out of

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:42:22AM +0300, Richard Hainsworth wrote: While perl6 remains unstable in its specification (or is perceived to be that way) and is looking (from outside a select group?) like a unending road, wont this act as a deterrent to those who want to help hack it into

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread Smylers
Richard Hainsworth writes: When does the specification of perl6 come to an end? At a guess: when it's implemented. Many of the recent changes have been made by Larry in response to his trying to write the grammer, and encountering problems. Perhaps there could be a perl6.0 specification,

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread Jonathan Lang
Smylers wrote: Richard Hainsworth writes: When does the specification of perl6 come to an end? At a guess: when it's implemented. Many of the recent changes have been made by Larry in response to his trying to write the grammar, and encountering problems. With all due respect: Once the

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread Larry Wall
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:42:22AM +0300, Richard Hainsworth wrote: : When does the specification of perl6 come to an end? Are there criteria : or milestones which define that the perl6 specification stage is at an end? It seems you are presuming a Waterfall model of development here. We're not

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread Geoffrey Broadwell
On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 12:15 -0800, Jonathan Lang wrote: I submit that you'll have even more luck discouraging such things if you can give a reasonable and believable timeline as to when the 6.0 spec will be ready and perl 6.1 features can start being considered. As I mentioned in another

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread chromatic
On Sunday 25 February 2007 12:56, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote: As I mentioned in another thread, but didn't make clear in that email: I don't need a finished spec.  I need the *current* version of spec to actually be mostly implemented. The implementors want the same thing. And if it's not

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread Geoffrey Broadwell
On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 13:26 -0800, chromatic wrote: On Sunday 25 February 2007 12:56, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote: As I mentioned in another thread, but didn't make clear in that email: I don't need a finished spec. I need the *current* version of spec to actually be mostly implemented.

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread chromatic
On Sunday 25 February 2007 13:57, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote: I'm not trying to say that the implementors should rush either, nor am I complaining about current status; I grok the dynamics of volunteer code. I merely disagree with the spec is all-important crowd.  I personally have a preference

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread Smylers
Jonathan Lang writes: Smylers wrote: Richard Hainsworth writes: When does the specification of perl6 come to an end? At a guess: when it's implemented. Many of the recent changes have been made by Larry in response to his trying to write the grammar, and encountering

Re: What criteria mark the closure of perl6 specification

2007-02-25 Thread Geoffrey Broadwell
On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 14:16 -0800, chromatic wrote: On Sunday 25 February 2007 13:57, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote: I'm not trying to say that the implementors should rush either, nor am I complaining about current status; I grok the dynamics of volunteer code. I merely disagree with the spec