Re: summarizing the obvious (was: arrays, hashes unified ...)

2003-02-02 Thread Sam Vilain
On Sat, 01 Feb 2003 06:40, Garrett Goebel wrote:
 Or for the extremely thick:
   GOOD: Separate syntax for indexed vs. named lookups
   BAD:  Same syntax with = 2 contextual meanings

Or, another way to look at it;

  GOOD: flexible, re-usable code that doesn't care if you change the key 
type
  BAD: code that you have to rewrite if you change a key type
-- 
Sam Vilain, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

A closed mouth says nothing wrong; a closed mind does nothing right.
 - anon.



Re: summarizing the obvious

2003-01-31 Thread Michael Lazzaro

On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 09:40  AM, Garrett Goebel wrote:

Or for the extremely thick:
  GOOD: Separate syntax for indexed vs. named lookups
  BAD:  Same syntax with = 2 contextual meanings


Seriously, everyone read Damian's Seven Deadly Sins thing, if ya 
haven't read/heard it already.  It's quite short, and quite good at 
pointing out Things That Suck about programming languages.

http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~damian/papers/PDF/SevenDeadlySins.pdf

out-of-place-rant
I'm disappointed that The Perl Foundation (TPF) has been so quiet and
unresponsive on support for our core language designers and 
architects. I
dropped a note to all the TPF contacts over a week ago, and have yet to
receive a reply. It is a sad state of affairs when a language as 
prevalent
as Perl and with such a strong sense of community can be so 
disorganized and
lacking when it comes to financial sustenance.
/out-of-place-rant

It's worse than that, IMO.  Think of all the businesses that benefit 
from Perl... it's bloody *everywhere*.  It's the, what, fourth most 
popular language, after C/C++/Java, according to that 
monster-job-search-based-statistic on slashdot.  And yet the entire 
population of the Perl-using planet can't support 4 or 5 full time 
designers/developers?  Have we just not been effective in getting the 
word out, or are businesses truly that cheap?  Does Perl need to be 
made into a commercially supported product, w/ venture capital, a'la 
other recent open source pkgs, in order to get funded?

MikeL