Re: how the FreeBSD project gets its core members

2000-10-17 Thread Adam Turoff

On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 10:37:27PM -0700, Nathan Wiger wrote:
   - The core team appeared to be doing too much, meddling in affairs
 which didn't concern them. 

http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/misc.html#AEN4823

Q: Why should I care what color the bikeshed is?

A: The really, really short answer is that you shouldn't.

   [ annecdote about everyone arguing about the bikeshed, but no one
 arguing about the nuclear power plant next door.  The bikeshed
 is easily understood, meaningless, and the source of endless arguing.  
 The power plant is huge, complicated and confusing, so no one 
 comments about it. ]

:-)

Z.




Re: how the FreeBSD project gets its core members

2000-10-17 Thread Stephen Zander

 "Adam" == Adam Turoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Adam http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/misc.html#AEN4823

The entry below that is even more apropos.

-- 
Stephen

"And what do we burn apart from witches?"... "More witches!"



perl should optimize for extreme cases (was Re: [FWP] Wanted - Have = Need)

2000-10-17 Thread John Porter

[Warning - mailing list violently altered!]


John Carter wrote:
 On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, John Porter wrote:
 
  As a concrete example, perl's data structures are always
  managed in memory; while things like sort and merge have
  been written to utilize on-disk buffers when necessary.
  (Hmm... smells like an RFC...)
 
 I would assume that perl uses glibc's qsort routine.

That would be great for perl6; but current perls implement a
custom sort routine.

The bigger issue, which I think is RFC-worthy, is that perl
ought, if possible, to optimize for extreme cases by doing,
e.g., disk caching, the way unix sort does.

This could be controlled by pragmata, if it was deemed not
useful as a default.

-- 
John Porter

By pressing down a special key  It plays a little melody




Re: Happy Birthday, perl5!

2000-10-17 Thread Jorg Ziefle

On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 04:47:54PM -0400, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote:
 According to my birthday file, perl5 is 6 years old as of 16:48:04 on
 Tuesday 17 October 2000.
 
 So, happy birthday to perl5!
 
 Hopefully, we can release perl6 by the time perl5 is 7 years old.  :)

Didn't the timeline say something about 18 month 'til the first release?

If so, Perl 5 will be well in elementary school when Perl 6 sees the world ...

Jörg



Re: how the FreeBSD project gets its core members

2000-10-17 Thread Kurt D. Starsinic

On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 11:30:37PM -0700, Stephen Zander wrote:
  "Adam" == Adam Turoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Adam http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/misc.html#AEN4823
 
 The entry below that is even more apropos.

Come come, Stephen.  Don't start a flamewar.  We all know that Perl's
threading model lacks fairings . . . .

Peace,
* Kurt Starsinic ([EMAIL PROTECTED])  Senior Software Architect *
|   `The sight of immediate reality has become an orchid|
|in the land of technology.'  --  Walter Benjamin   |




mp3 of Larry's talk available

2000-10-17 Thread Nathan Torkington

http://www.technetcast.com

Nat



Re: Transcription of Larry's talk

2000-10-17 Thread Nathan Torkington

Whoops, I misread the mp3 player.  Not 1:26, that's the total length.
1:02 is where I was when I stopped.

Ugh, transcription is hard says typist Barbie.

Nat