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2001-02-09 Thread Bryan C . Warnock
Self-referencing definitions - it's a bit like time travel. This was originally submitted back in December, but I never saw it show up, and didn't see it in the archives, so I'm going to throw it to the meta list for hacking before there are a slew of PDDs floating around. (I'm withholding the

Art Of Unix Programming on Perl

2001-02-09 Thread Simon Cozens
Eric Raymond's book-in-development ``The Art of Unix Programming'' says this about the future of Perl: Perl usage has grown respectably, but the language itself has been stagnant for two years or more. Bah. Looks like my Perl5-Porters summaries have been completely in vain. :) The past two

Re: Art Of Unix Programming on Perl

2001-02-09 Thread Bryan C . Warnock
On Friday 09 February 2001 14:06, Simon Cozens wrote: I'm not sure "stagnant" is the best choice of word to describe that. It used to be that feeping creaturism was the scourge - folks clamoring for a little stability in their tools and products. Now it seems what was once "stability" is now

Re: Art Of Unix Programming on Perl

2001-02-09 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, but you see, we're not generating code. All the rest of the stuff is irrelevant, and Real Hackers don't need to design--it's all self-evident. Besides, you only need to design if you're building one of those Cathedral thingies, and we all know how bad

Art of Unix Programming on perl

2001-02-09 Thread Edward Peschko
Eric Raymond's book-in-development ``The Art of Unix Programming'' says this about the future of Perl: Perl usage has grown respectably, but the language itself has been stagnant for two years or more. Bah. Looks like my Perl5-Porters summaries have been completely in vain. :) yeah, he's

Re: Art Of Unix Programming on Perl

2001-02-09 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen
On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Eric S. Raymond wrote: [...] minimalism) and I tried to, but there was some kind of ugly technical snafu with Skud's listserv and I couldn't get signed on. listserv? We use ezmlm around here. :) If you still want to join in then look at http://dev.perl.org/ -