Re: perl 6 mailing lists status

2001-05-28 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Sun, 27 May 2001, Bryan C. Warnock wrote:

 perl6-all - Current mega-subscription list.  (What mailing lists does this 
 cover, and how is that determined as lists come and go?)  In use.

perl6-all is subscribed to all other perl6-.*@perl.org lists.
 
 perl6-language-unlink - Originally chaired by Nathan Wiger.  unlink().  
 Closed.  No archive, although there is a link to one.

it's already closed. I don't think it ever got used. At least, I
can't find any postings.
 
 perl6-meta - The catchall list chaired by Nat Torkington.  In use.

it's not catch all, it's for mails like these. :-)
 
 perl6-porters - A mailing list from Topaz days.  Freeze (if we want to 
 parallel p5p for maintenance and porting post Perl 6 delivery.).  Last post 
 was 15 Feb 2001.

hmpfr, it's not supposed to be alive.
http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00200.html
 
 Michael Schwern's perl-qa is also on the list, and seems to be included in 
 perl6-all, although his stated goal (and the current traffic) isn't Perl 6 
 specific - hence the name.

Correct.
 
 The current page should probably break the lists up into two (or three, if 
 Frozen is acceptable) sections, for the current and closed lists.  Ask, I 
 can send you a revamped page after the details have been worked out (barring 
 Warnock's Dilemma).

That'd be great.

Please edit http://dev.perl.org/working-groups.txt (and if needed
http://dev.perl.org/build-wg-list.pl).
 
:)

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the list archives ...

2001-05-14 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen


... at http://archive.develooper.com/?M=D should now be updating
again. :-)


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[meta] perl.org mail, ftp.cpan.org, www.perl.org and so on...

2001-04-30 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen


In the next hour or so we will be moving the box hosting
ftp.cpan.org, cpan.valueclick.com, (perl|cpan).org mail,
www.cpan.org, www.perl.org and so on to the rack next to the one
it's in now. The downtime should be less than 10 minutes, but now
you are forewarned in case I hit the 110V/230V switch while we move
it or something.

:-)

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perl.org cpan.org mail

2001-04-28 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen


Ack.

For quite a while I've had the project of getting everything on
tmtowtdi.perl.org moved to a new box called onion. The CPAN foo I'm
hosting was moved a while ago and www.perl.org has been running on
onion ever since I started hosting it at ValueClick, so those sites
were not affected.

Earlier today tmtowtdi had to be moved to a new rack, and when they
turned it on again it didn't quite feel like booting.

So, it got moved from the datacenter to it's current place behind my
desk and I got it started. Instead of just getting it running,
changing DNS, going home and hoping for the best, I took the
opportunity to get stuff moved to onion. It seems like we have all
data in good shape, and if not there's the nightly backups.

perl.org and cpan.org mail is running again and all queued mail from
the secondary MX has been processed. I will open up the websites
that were on tmtowtdi in a few minutes.

bugs.perl.org is not running as it will require some coordination
with Richard or more work than I can bother to do right now. So,
please don't blame Richard for perlbug being down. It's all my
fault.

Also, the people who had accounts to update the sites and whatnot on
tmtowtdi doesn't have access to onion (yet). If they'll please mail
me, then I'll get them set up again.

There's probably some other stuff missing that I forgot about right
now. Please mail me and let me know.

The good part is that the new box is much faster, not running some
ancient Linux and have RAID-5. So you can now receive both perl6-all
and p5p faster than you can start a tail on your mail log after
posting.


 - ask

ps. if any of the above doesn't make much sense it's because I've
eaten approximately 2 tons of mini snickers and not much else
today. Argh.

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Re: State of PDD 0

2001-02-20 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Bryan C. Warnock wrote:

 On Tuesday 20 February 2001 17:38, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote:
  
  I have created perl6-announce-pdd. Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  for clues.
  
  How should the submission process work? As for the RFC's?
 
 Can you confirm the actual submission address?  Are we using perl-pdd? And 
 did we want to make this Perl 6 specific, or Perl generic (like perl-qa is)?

Notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] after sending the (unnumbered) PDD to
perl6-internals and I will add it to the list.

Will be changed when the PDD traffic gets higher.


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Re: This week on the perl6 mailing lists

2001-02-14 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Simon Cozens wrote:

[...]
 If you think it would be ethical and correct for the assistants to draw
 a salary while the editor does not, please go ahead and push O'Reilly
 for money. 

I want a cent per mail delivered from the perl mailinglists![1] Who
want's to pay?

(In other words: I agree entirely).


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[1] that would currently be +$1750 a day if I'm reading my logs
correctly. wow. that's a whole lot of Perl mail! :-)

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Re: Art Of Unix Programming on Perl

2001-02-14 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Simon Cozens wrote:

 Ask, could we have the PDDs placed up on dev.perl.org in the
 same way as the RFCs, please?

I made a simple list of what we have so far at
http://dev.perl.org/ppd/

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Re: Art Of Unix Programming on Perl

2001-02-09 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Eric S. Raymond wrote:

[...]
 minimalism) and I tried to, but there was some kind of ugly technical
 snafu with Skud's listserv and I couldn't get signed on.

listserv? We use ezmlm around here. :) If you still want to join in
then look at http://dev.perl.org/ - http://dev.perl.org/lists and
http://archive.develooper.com/ ...

we are currently in waiting-for-Larry mode on the language design
and I don't think anyone would claim that it could be done any
faster if we tried to make language _decisions_ on the mailinglists
so that's just kinda how it is.

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Re: My reading list

2000-10-23 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Simon Cozens wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 04:11:34PM -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote:
 
 I'd just like to stoke the latent paranoia.

:-)  For those who haven't read them the Steve Maguire books are
really really good. Hallo, no matter what you think of the software
they shrinkwrap and sell they must (as a huge software company) have
thought quite a bit about how to get it there.


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  Published by Microsoft Press
  Published by Microsoft Press
  Published by Microsoft Press
  Published by Wiley
  Published by Dorset House
 
 

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new list: perl6-source-control@perl.org

2000-09-08 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen


  List: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Chair: Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Deadline: 18 September 2000
  Mission: To decide the source control system (Perforce, CVS, etc)
  to be used for perl6 development.

subscribe by sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More
information at http://dev.perl.org/lists


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Re: code repository

2000-09-06 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote:

[...]
 Also, what if people want to learn how the source system works on their own,
 and experiment with it?  With only 100-user license, we are pretty tight as
 to who can do that.  There are probably more than 100 people on the various
 perl6 mailing lists who'd want to at least experiment with the system on
 their own.

there's a built-in 2-client license you can play with if you just
download the daemon from perforce. 

Also the number 100 was just a semi-random number I picked when I
faxed the license request. I could as well have written 1000 I'm
sure.


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Re: Message ID's?

2000-09-04 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Bart Lateur wrote:

 My suggestion, plain and simpl: add a custom header with the
 assigned message ID.

it's in the envelope sender which all decent delivery agents will
put in some header for you. (commonly the Return-Path header).


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Re: Perl 6 announcement list

2000-09-03 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen

On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Nathan Torkington wrote:

 Yes.  I hadn't envisaged the sheer number of RFCs, and hence the
 traffic on the announcements list.
 
 Perhaps we rename perl6-announce to perl6-announce-rfc, then create a
 new perl6-announce (with all the subscribers of the rfc list) to hold
 mailing list and project status reports?

yes, I have been thinking the same thing.

If noone objects in the next few days I'll go ahead and do it.

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