Re: Undermining the Perl Language

2000-10-02 Thread Simon Cozens
On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 11:49:51AM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > Please take your paranoia elsewhere. I think if you actually sat down > and had lunch with each of the parties involved, and those further out > but well-informed, you'd find a consistent view of reality that > doesn't match AN

Re: Undermining the Perl Language

2000-10-01 Thread Jan Dubois
On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 15:57:33 -0400, Adam Turoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >David, please take your conspiracies elsewhere. We've all heard >them before and they are not germane to the Perl6 brainstorming >process we find ourselves in right now. Comrade Adam, your behavior is in violation of di

Re: Undermining the Perl Language

2000-10-01 Thread John Porter
Stephen Zander wrote: > David> This country (apologies to non-US citizens) was not founded > David> on committee action, but on rebellion. > > I hope the irony of a proponent of non-profit motives holding up a > rebellion that was exclusively profit-motive based in support of their > argu

RE: Undermining the Perl Language

2000-10-01 Thread David Grove
On Sunday, October 01, 2000 8:51 PM, Bradley M. Kuhn [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > Stephen Zander wrote: > > > "David" == David Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > David> This country (apologies to non-US citizens) was not founded > > David> on committee action, but on rebellion.

Re: Undermining the Perl Language

2000-10-01 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
Stephen Zander wrote: > > "David" == David Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David> This country (apologies to non-US citizens) was not founded > David> on committee action, but on rebellion. > I hope the irony of a proponent of non-profit motives holding up a > rebellion that was

Re: Undermining the Perl Language

2000-10-01 Thread Stephen Zander
> "David" == David Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: David> This country (apologies to non-US citizens) was not founded David> on committee action, but on rebellion. I hope the irony of a proponent of non-profit motives holding up a rebellion that was exclusively profit-motive based i

Re: Undermining the Perl Language

2000-10-01 Thread Bart Lateur
On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 22:24:12 +0100, Tim Bunce wrote: >FWIW, I agree entirely with Randal here. How do you prove that you're not paranoid, that "they" are really after you? How do you prove that putting aluminum foil on your head really helps? You can't. That said, I can only say one thing: if y

RE: Undermining the Perl Language

2000-10-01 Thread David Grove
> It's possible you're speaking of one or more of the working group chairs, > in which case your criticism may well be valid. This, though, is one of the > cases where you may need to cope (as a volunteer project one needs to work > with what's available). You can also speak to folks a step or two

RE: Undermining the Perl Language

2000-10-01 Thread David Grove
> No conspiracy could be that well-oiled. Someone would have leaked it > by now. The community has been leaking like a sieve since July 1998. Want a complete list?

Re: Undermining the Perl Language

2000-10-01 Thread Adam Turoff
On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 12:14:49PM -0500, David Grove wrote: > [...] I've no idea why Sarathy was deposed, He wasn't. > but I have a > pretty big suspicion. And a pretty big, well known problem with ActiveState. > The problem is, I love Sarathy too. He's a hero, Yes, he's pretty heroic.

Re: Undermining the Perl Language

2000-10-01 Thread J. David Blackstone
> Something's gotta budge. I do not want to pay for the privilege of using a > free > language, and the "elite" need a damn good spaking to learn some manners to > newbies (for at least the sake of advocacy) and people who don't use their > own > OS/Computer/Platform. Being a Perl community new