Re: ANNOUNCE: smokers@perl.org Discussion of perl's daily build and smoke test

2001-02-20 Thread Alan Burlison

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Alan Burlison



Re: ANNOUNCE: smokers@perl.org Discussion of perl's daily build and smoke test

2001-02-20 Thread Stephen P. Potter

Lightning flashed, thunder crashed and Alan Burlison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 whispered:
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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| PIT - Perl Intergration Testers
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| Alan Burlison

Not to pick on Alan, God knows he's been doing us all a real favor lately
with the leaktest stuff.  But can we please stop crossposting this thread
to -announce?  For that matter, does it really need to go to 7 individuals,
and 5 lists?

-spp



Re: ANNOUNCE: smokers@perl.org Discussion of perl's daily build and smoke test

2001-02-19 Thread Johan Vromans

As an active non-smoker, I'd appreciate a different name.

-- Johan



Re: ANNOUNCE: smokers@perl.org Discussion of perl's daily build and smoke test

2001-02-19 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi

On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 03:47:12PM +0100, Johan Vromans wrote:
 As an active non-smoker, I'd appreciate a different name.

Likewise.  What's wrong with builders?

 -- Johan

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Re: ANNOUNCE: smokers@perl.org Discussion of perl's daily build and smoke test

2001-02-19 Thread H . Merijn Brand

On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 08:49:04 -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 03:47:12PM +0100, Johan Vromans wrote:
  As an active non-smoker, I'd appreciate a different name.
 
 Likewise.  What's wrong with builders?

Same here. Testers?


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Re: ANNOUNCE: smokers@perl.org Discussion of perl's daily build and smoke test

2001-02-19 Thread Tim Bunce

On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 09:03:00AM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 04:01:25PM +0100, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
  On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 08:49:04 -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 03:47:12PM +0100, Johan Vromans wrote:
As an active non-smoker, I'd appreciate a different name.
   
   Likewise.  What's wrong with builders?
  
  Same here. Testers?
 
 perl-builders?

Or to be more whimsical:

perl-night-shift
perl-night-build

It probably needs a name that'll both indicate its role and avoid confusion
with 'porters' (who do most of the 'building' to the untrained eye).

Tim.



RE: ANNOUNCE: smokers@perl.org Discussion of perl's daily build and smoke test

2001-02-19 Thread Fabio

I agree with Johan...

Fabio.

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As an active non-smoker, I'd appreciate a different name.

-- Johan




Re: ANNOUNCE: smokers@perl.org Discussion of perl's daily build and smoke test

2001-02-19 Thread Vadim Konovalov

As an active non-smoker, I'd appreciate a different name.
   
   Likewise.  What's wrong with builders?
  
  Same here. Testers?
 
 perl-builders?

I vote for perl-builders

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Re: ANNOUNCE: smokers@perl.org Discussion of perl's daily build and smoke test

2001-02-19 Thread Tim Bunce

On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 10:50:04AM -0500, Chris Nandor wrote:
 At 15:45 + 2001.02.19, Tim Bunce wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 09:03:00AM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
  On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 04:01:25PM +0100, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
   On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 08:49:04 -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 03:47:12PM +0100, Johan Vromans wrote:
 As an active non-smoker, I'd appreciate a different name.
   
Likewise.  What's wrong with builders?
  
   Same here. Testers?
 
  perl-builders?
 
 Or to be more whimsical:
 
  perl-night-shift
  perl-night-build
 
 It probably needs a name that'll both indicate its role and avoid confusion
 with 'porters' (who do most of the 'building' to the untrained eye).
 
 I dunno; I dislike smoking, but I like the idea of "smoking-camels" or
 something.  :)

Umm, I recall something from my geography lessons about nomadic tribes
smoking camel dung. I can't remember now if it was on the fire or in
the mouth (yeach). Anyway...

perl-dung
perl-droppings

Umm, maybe not. Er...

perl-smoke-trail  (thinking of the night-by-night progress, kind'a)

I dunno. I'm off...

Tim.



Re: ANNOUNCE: smokers@perl.org Discussion of perl's daily build and smoke test

2001-02-19 Thread Uri Guttman


jezz, this is nutso. the term smokers that schwern chose refers to
smoking code as in testing it to see if it blows up in a blaze of flame
and smoke. in the hardware world powering up a box or power supply for
the first time is known as a smoke test (you don't want to see any smoke
then). the name has nothing to do with tobacco or human smoking. so drop
this thread. smokers is a fine name choice for a severe testbed system.

does everyone get it? smoke is an established term in the testing world.

uri

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Re: ANNOUNCE: smokers@perl.org Discussion of perl's daily build and smoke test

2001-02-19 Thread schwern

No.  This is silly.  End of discussion.

PS  I'm also an active non-smoker.

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Re: ANNOUNCE: smokers@perl.org Discussion of perl's daily build and smoke test

2001-02-19 Thread David Grove


"H.Merijn Brand" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 08:49:04 -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
   On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 03:47:12PM +0100, Johan Vromans wrote:
As an active non-smoker, I'd appreciate a different name.
  
   Likewise.  What's wrong with builders?

Because "PerlBuilder" is a commercial product. It's a poor quality
competitor that I wouldn't recommend to anybody. If you put the words
together like this, you'll create an accidental association.

p