Re: Neat site: Advogato

[John van V.]

> Pretty much any really worthwhile file-move support, intended to be
> an improvement over delete/create...

I'm going to implement SourceForge on my PUNY server pretty soon.

Subsisting on a diet of perl and an little shell, I would really like to see
method management along w/ the files.  I have extractated my self from deep
doodoo a number of times by renaming a method to _old and writing the fix in a
few minutes.

So, could we not encapsulate the best parts of CVS in XS, while adding admin
funcitons (and method control) in perl until time permits C .= '++' coding.

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Re: Neat site: Advogato

[Bennett Todd]

2000-04-04-18:19:53 Russ Allbery:
> Chip Salzenberg:
> > Iif it copes properly with the target directory not yet
> > existing, bonus points.
>
> This is a topic of regular and very heated discussion on info-cvs,
> just so that you're warned.  It's rather difficult to come up with
> good semantics for file moves that don't have various drawbacks.

Understandable, since the CVS central trick, the heart around which
all the other frippery is built, revolves around identifying
differences in a useful and meaningful fashion. Like rsync in a way,
another program that doesn't currently do the Smart Thing with file
moves, and that might profit, in some applications, if it could.

Pretty much any really worthwhile file-move support, intended to be
an improvement over delete/create, could force CVS to abandon it's
current representation using stock RCS files, or at least leave that
representation incomplete, which would be a shame.

-Bennett

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Re: Neat site: Advogato

[Russ Allbery]

Chip Salzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> According to John Tobey:

>> I bet a "cvs mv" that I wouldn't be ashamed of could be implemented
>> in 50 lines of Perl.  (is that what you meant?)

> I think so.  I'd like to see it, actually.  And if it copes properly
> with the target directory not yet existing, bonus points.

This is a topic of regular and very heated discussion on info-cvs, just so
that you're warned.  It's rather difficult to come up with good semantics
for file moves that don't have various drawbacks.

-- 
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 

Re: Neat site: Advogato

[Chip Salzenberg]

According to John Tobey:
> I'm willing to help.

Thanks!

> I bet a "cvs mv" that I wouldn't be ashamed of could be implemented
> in 50 lines of Perl.  (is that what you meant?)

I think so.  I'd like to see it, actually.  And if it copes properly
with the target directory not yet existing, bonus points.
-- 
Chip Salzenberg  - a.k.a. -  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"I wanted to play hopscotch with the impenetrable mystery of existence,
but he stepped in a wormhole and had to go in early."  // MST3K

Re: Neat site: Advogato

[John Tobey]

> > Well it's better than nothing, although CVS over SSH is nicer IMHO if
> > it suits your development style.
> 
> Ouch!  That stang.  :-)

Sorry!  :-)

> Well, actually, I'm probably pretty close to cvs-ability.

I'm willing to help.

>  The issue
> is directory layout and files being created/deleted.

I bet a "cvs mv" that I wouldn't be ashamed of could be implemented in
50 lines of Perl.  (is that what you meant?)

>  But I can get
> the SourceForge folks to delete my CVS tree if I have to start over, I
> guess.

Ah the perks!

> -- 
> Chip Salzenberg  - a.k.a. -  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> "I wanted to play hopscotch with the impenetrable mystery of existence,
> but he stepped in a wormhole and had to go in early."  // MST3K
> 
> 

Re: Neat site: Advogato

[Chip Salzenberg]

According to John Tobey:
> > I'm signed up on advogato.com, and I like it.  I'm thinking that its
> > diary feature would be a good place to keep y'all in touch with what's
> > happening in development between snapshots
> 
> Well it's better than nothing, although CVS over SSH is nicer IMHO if
> it suits your development style.

Ouch!  That stang.  :-)

Well, actually, I'm probably pretty close to cvs-ability.  The issue
is directory layout and files being created/deleted.  But I can get
the SourceForge folks to delete my CVS tree if I have to start over, I
guess.
-- 
Chip Salzenberg  - a.k.a. -  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"I wanted to play hopscotch with the impenetrable mystery of existence,
but he stepped in a wormhole and had to go in early."  // MST3K

Re: Neat site: Advogato

[John Tobey]

> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 13:19:07 -0700
> From: Chip Salzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> I'm signed up on advogato.com, and I like it.  I'm thinking that its
> diary feature would be a good place to keep y'all in touch with what's
> happening in development between snapshots

Well it's better than nothing, although CVS over SSH is nicer IMHO if
it suits your development style.  (sourceforge supports it, btw)

-John

> -- 
> Chip Salzenberg  - a.k.a. -  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> "I wanted to play hopscotch with the impenetrable mystery of existence,
> but he stepped in a wormhole and had to go in early."  // MST3K
> 
> 

-- 
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Neat site: Advogato

[Chip Salzenberg]

I'm signed up on advogato.com, and I like it.  I'm thinking that its
diary feature would be a good place to keep y'all in touch with what's
happening in development between snapshots
-- 
Chip Salzenberg  - a.k.a. -  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"I wanted to play hopscotch with the impenetrable mystery of existence,
but he stepped in a wormhole and had to go in early."  // MST3K