Re: "Art Of Unix Programming" on Perl

[John van V.]

Hiya, I wasnt expecting this but here is my $.02,

Eric Raymond, is interesting but his contribtution is going to cause a lot more
grief than contracting revenue and salary bonuses.

Perl is frozen at 5.5.3 for me, which is not a problem.  I would like a virtual
machine built into the kernel, but more than anything, my industry (unix) needs
a rock solid kernel to get control of the operations.  

Edward Peschko and Simon Cozens :
> > Perl usage has grown respectably, but the language itself has been
> stagnant
> > > for two years or more.
> > 
> > Bah. Looks like my Perl5-Porters summaries have been completely in vain. :)
> 
> yeah, he's full of BS here.


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Re: "Art Of Unix Programming" on Perl

[Edward Peschko]

On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 07:06:46PM +, Simon Cozens wrote:
> Eric Raymond's book-in-development ``The Art of Unix Programming'' says
> this about the future of Perl:
> 
> > Perl usage has grown respectably, but the language itself has been stagnant
> > for two years or more.
> 
> Bah. Looks like my Perl5-Porters summaries have been completely in vain. :)

yeah, he's full of BS here.
> 
> If that other is Perl 6, I don't think we're stalled, are we? Language design
> is waiting on Larry to produce the spec, and internals design is going on
> quietly but steadily. We're in the design stage. That'll probably last a while
> because scripting languages and interpreters aren't easy things to design, and
> are even harder to get right.

Well, sometimes I think things *are* stalled. I'm thinking of updating my book
to perl 6, and maybe writing a new one, except that it is very difficult
to start, let alone convince an editor to put the time and effort into such a 
project if you can't even point to a spec.

And - correct me if I'm wrong - but there isn't even a status available on how
far the spec process is coming. I'm not saying that every day or even every 
week - but once a month might be nice. Last time I heard, he was going through
'topic by topic' and was going to release verdicts bit-by-bit. But that was 
on Dec. 20th.

Ed