Maybe I wasn't clear enough. What I meant to say it that I wasn't
enthusiastic about a name change, but, if the name really has to change,
then Camelia is my favorite name.
Le mer. 14 août 2019 à 05:49, Eliza a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> on 2019/8/14 5:19, Laurent Rosenfeld via perl6-users wrote:
> >
Hi David,
I think you're right in this. While I like the name chosen by Eliza I
also thought about the changes which will follow after the renaming.
Like in documentation with mentions of perl6, websites, books,
extensions of modules, programs and pod docs etc.
If it comes to renaming,
Hi,
on 2019/8/13 11:52, Veesh Goldman wrote:
All ML really happens in C++. The only advantage that python has is that
people use it. P6 is flexible enough that I'm sure you can port
TensorFlow using nativeCall within a month.
Perl as a whole has a terrible image problem. People think it's just
Hi,
on 2019/8/14 5:19, Laurent Rosenfeld via perl6-users wrote:
Having said that, I should add that if the name should really change, I
think Camelia is probably the least bad idea that I can think of.
Following the link:
I don't think the decision has been made so far. At this point, it is a
proposal by one (or possibly several) individual(s) whom I very much
respect.
And it is definitely not going to hapopen this week (and quite probably not
this month).
Even though my opinion on the subject is probably
I've put up two name suggestions for Perl 6:
NUPERL:
www.nuperl.orgwww.nuperl.comwww.nuperl.net
NEUPERL:
www.neuperl.orgwww.neuperl.comwww.neuperl.net
Specifics:
https://github.com/perl6/problem-solving/issues/81#issuecomment-520960546
I'm not sure why this decision has to be
On 8/11/19 11:14 PM, Eliza wrote:
Hello perl6 world,
I saw the perl6 github issue, just was confused will perl6 change its name?
https://github.com/perl6/problem-solving/issues/81
I don't know whether to take this is troll bait or a real issue. Lots
of people seem to be responding; so
It's been said before, but I do think that the "Perl6" name is holding back
adoption. Too many people think of the old Perl, and have no interest in
looking at what's changed in a new version of the "same" language.
Whatever the new name ultimately becomes, changing it (perhaps timed with a
new
Camelia : Excellent idea Eliza, I totally agree with yours arguments and
what a sympathetic non technical name
accorded with its logo and attracting young programmers too. I vote for
this choice with enthusiasm !
Chris
Le lun. 12 août 2019 à 08:15, Eliza a écrit :
> Hello perl6 world,
>
> I
All ML really happens in C++. The only advantage that python has is that
people use it. P6 is flexible enough that I'm sure you can port TensorFlow
using nativeCall within a month.
Perl as a whole has a terrible image problem. People think it's just awk
with more punctuation variables. Literally,
Hi,
on 2019/8/13 3:17, Stephen Wilcoxon wrote:
Perl, on the other hand, can do anything Python can (except stackless) and,
generally, just as easily.
I don't think so specially in AI/ML field.
Python can handle primitive types much better than ruby/perl can at the
moment. And has much less
Hi,
on 2019/8/13 2:17, Stephen Wilcoxon wrote:
I love Perl but it has an image problem. If Perl didn't have an image
problem,
Python never would have become so popular.
can you give more detailed description what image problem perl has? thanks.
It’s far from obvious that playing with the name is likely to make things
significantly better. Perl 6 has been P6 longer than Perl 5 had been P5 — or
Perl Anything — at the time it was conceived. That’s not to say nothing should
be done about it, but as some people have pointed out in the
> If Perl had worked harder to stay in the public eye in a good way (rather
than being viewed as dieing), there wouldn't have been a perceived
need for Python.
As I remember it, there was a concerted attack on perl with Python
being held up as the-anti-perl. There wasn't (yet) any question of
I think:
(1) For a rename to happen, Larry Wall really has to sign off on it:
this is just a social reality of the perl world.
(2) The rename really has to be an announced, offical rename. It
can't be just an alias or a knickname or anything like that.
I find I like the name Camelia in part
On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 1:42 PM Richard Hainsworth
wrote:
>
> > The decision on perl 5 vs perl 6 naming is more revolutionary but it
> > IS hurting
> > Perl. I love Perl but it has an image problem.
> True. Would a name change now have much effect?
> > If Perl didn't have an image problem,
> >
"5" is a version number of Perl. To run it, $/usr/bin/perl "6" is part
of the name of Perl6.
To run it, $/usr/bin/perl6.
With the production version of Perl incremented by 2 every year, it's
still about 35 years before the version gets to an inconvenient 3
digits. (Will there really be enough
The decision on perl 5 vs perl 6 naming is more revolutionary but it
IS hurting
Perl. I love Perl but it has an image problem.
True. Would a name change now have much effect?
If Perl didn't have an image problem,
Python never would have become so popular.
Mmmm. That is a very strong
I agree that the "incorrect statement" was factually incorrect. However, it
was widely perceived to be correct. That perception did hurt perl (both 5
and 6).
It made many people see perl as "dead" while perl 6 was under development.
>>> "It took way too long to mature to an initial release"
>
>
On the topic raised by Eliza, a counter rant. Hopefully, everyone will
detect the humour (English spelling) and not take offence.
There are is one statement in Eliza's original text that is not correct,
and several that are debatable. The debatable statements are
understandable, and entirely
It's all bike-shedding.
On 8/12/19 9:14 AM, Eliza wrote:
Hello perl6 world,
I saw the perl6 github issue, just was confused will perl6 change its
name?
Perl 6 was initially conceived to be the next version of Perl 5. It
took way too long to mature to an initial release. Meanwhile, people
Hi,
El lun., 12 ago. 2019 a las 8:15, Eliza () escribió:
> Hello perl6 world,
>
> I saw the perl6 github issue, just was confused will perl6 change its name?
>
Yes, it might. Perl 6 will still be the language, but the implementation
(the stack including MoarVM, NQP and Rakudo) will be called
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